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03-12-2010 08:21 PM  9 years ago
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Mini titan Best Battery (hobbyking) .
beaulac 8 1931 03-25-2010 11:33 PM
erikpmort
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

beaulac, I have been flying Flightmax 3S 2200mah 25C for a year and not had a single one of them (6-total) puff. I had other Zippys that are 2-years old and those have puffed because I use to fly them below 80% discharge. I have taken care to not over discharge my newer set and as I mentioned, they are in great shape.

If you are puffing them your flights are to long or your setup is not suitable for flying on 3S.
 

03-09-2010 06:18 PM  9 years ago
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where to find titan se parts?
nappyroots2182 3 411 03-09-2010 08:18 PM
nappyroots2182
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I would tell ya where to buy SE parts but RR's ridiculous rules regarding posting to non-paying sponsors makes it immpossible to share valuable info. with fellow flyers. Sorry.
 

02-17-2010 12:36 AM  9 years ago
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Turnigy E500 motor ­čôĚ ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
mad_box 123 24777 05-10-2010 01:22 PM
Christian_P
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

pinions

hey guys i have this motor on the way and i need to order an 11t pinion-- can anyone recommend a brand? i'm not very keen on this stuff and there are a lot of options it seems.. is any 3mm 11t ok?
Here ya go. Best pinions made!
http://www.readyheli.com/RevCo_Hard..._p/ho-0500h.htm
 

02-08-2010 02:06 AM  9 years ago
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New Mini Titan V2 ­čôĚ ( page 1 2 3 )
Flying Brian 53 11367 01-14-2011 07:39 AM
husafreak
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

From watching that video, the canopy looks disproportionally large to me. Maybe it was just the angle, or video lens distortion???

Anyone else see it that way?
 

02-03-2010 11:04 AM  9 years ago
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E620 discontinued! ( page 1 2 3 )
RMG2 52 9240 04-16-2010 06:45 AM
HeliMan Dave
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Well lets's see..., all the 550e & 620e kits have dried up from US retailers shelves yet it's now reported that Mr."Bulls@#%" Aling Lai says, "There is no production stop for either the nitro or the electric version. Parts will be availble. That is a fact at today's levels"!

Wonder why I might not believe this...., Hmmmmm???

I do believe they will keep parts available for a while, I just don't believe the kits are still in production.

A-Main Hobbies has removed Thunder Tiger brand completely from their 600 electric category. Not just showing that the kits are "out of stock", or "back ordered", but completely removed the brand from the listings!

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to see any kit go extinct but The signs are sure out there that the old 550e & 620e may be gone??? I do believe TT will be coming with some form of revamped new large electric kit to replace the old ones. Why wouldn't they?

Guys, I started this thread and I didn't do it with any ill intent. The guy I spoke with at ACE sounded very sure of his comments which is why I reported it to start with. I hope the guy was wrong and perhaps there was just a delay in production and the kits come back. I guess time will tell.
 

01-25-2010 05:20 PM  9 years ago
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Mini Titan Auto Vid... almost
Funky Trex 6 1098 01-27-2010 12:18 AM
Flying Brian
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Nice job! Nothing wrong with those autos for a 450!

I have to admit I have never attempted a full auto from altitude, only from just a few feet up with my MT.

Are those the Thunder Power 335mm (listed as 325mm) blades?
 

01-02-2010 06:07 PM  9 years ago
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FBL Head for Mini Titan...?
Razmo 8 1803 01-02-2010 09:35 PM
Razmo
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

The V-Bar with the the satellite RXs is the way I would do it if I was gonna go FBL. Like you, I looked at that setup possibility and liked the thought of less wire and a cleaner overall install.

Please report how the project works out for you.
 

01-01-2010 05:25 PM  9 years ago
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FBL Head for Mini Titan...?
Razmo 8 1803 01-02-2010 09:35 PM
Razmo
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I've read of a couple people piecing together a FBL head setup for their MTs. I remember one person used a Gaui head but I know nothing more about it.

Bobby Smith sells several FBL heads for 450s. Contact him and ask for some advice on your project.

Because of RR rules of not being able to even mention resources that are not paid advertisers at RR I cannot even mention the name of Bobby's store. If ya don't know his store you will have to go to the "other" forum and ask someone to tell you the name of his store.
 

12-29-2009 01:46 AM  9 years ago
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Mavrikk G5 wc blades shim help ­čôĚ
Helizrule 6 973 12-29-2009 01:46 AM
RMG2
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I flew them yesterday and they seemed great however I have nothing but the woodies to compare them to. I guess you like the Radix better?
Yes, I think Radix are still the very best 450-class blades but they are too expensive for me. I fly these (link below) cheap CFs that are identical dimensions to Radix, fly virtually the same, and consistent from set to set.

Helidirect sells them for $18 a set but I buy them from a China store for $12 a set delivered.

http://www.helidirect.com/high-qual...-trex-p-576.hdx
 

12-28-2009 06:54 PM  9 years ago
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Mavrikk G5 wc blades shim help ­čôĚ
Helizrule 6 973 12-29-2009 01:46 AM
RMG2
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I hope you enjoy the G5s as the set I had were top quality and looked great on the heli they just were not for me.

G5 Pro Wide Chords 325s are actually 335mm long (std. 325mm), 35mm wide (std. 32mm), and 5mm airfoil (std. 4mm). They also weigh 28g each (std. 19g-24g).

They fly with a lot of lift. I didn't like the way they flew on my standard size MT as there just wasn't enough disk loading for me. My flight times went down a full minute using the G5s.

Would be excellent on a stretched version. They would be good on a heavier version with a scale fuse as well.

 

12-22-2009 05:37 PM  9 years ago
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Aftermarket metal head? Who has had what, and how'd it fly? ­čôĚ
ExtremeAerosports 9 1485 12-22-2009 06:32 PM
Aox
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I've been flying a Mini Titan for almost two years. First year was all plastic and second year I upgraded the head to partial metal. To be honest, flying aerobatics (flips, loops, rolls, inverted, etc) I don't notice any difference in how the heli flys between stock plastic and partial metal head (TT metal parts).

The metal parts are more durable in crashes than the plastic. I have not bent or broken any of the metal parts through a half dozen hard crashes. Last crash went in right on the head itself! Broke the spindel shaft completely in two but the head did not get bent! Use to break mixing arms with the plastic but no more issue with the metal.

Pretty equal crash testing as I have had 13-crashes on the MT with about half on plastic and half on metal.

 

12-08-2009 06:43 PM  9 years ago
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Mini Titan setup headache - equalising +/- pitch - please help!
AlexMUK 11 3538 01-03-2010 03:57 PM
AlexMUK
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Fenders explanation is correct for adjusting the pitch balance for + & -. However, I don't think the servo linkage lengths is your problem after looking at your photos on the other forum. I replied on your other thread.

And you do not adjust the pitch balance with the EPA. It should all be done with the mechanical setup. Only minor EPA adjustments should be used to adjust out any unequal travel between the servos themselves. That is another subject and you need not worry about that for fixing your current problem.
 

12-05-2009 01:34 AM  9 years ago
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how to fix +20, and 0
erikpmort 10 686 12-10-2009 05:09 AM
erikpmort
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

+20 is impossible to get on the Mini Titan. You are measurinng from center stick, and zero pitch at center stick..., right?
 

12-01-2009 07:19 PM  9 years ago
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Issues finding parts
Flying Brian 2 601 12-01-2009 07:25 PM
Flying Brian
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Not sure where you are seeing all this e325 parts shortage at as I just looked and didn't see it???

I just looked at my favorite three sites to buy e325 parts and two of the three were 100% in stock on all parts. The third store was out of stock on a lot of items but they just had a huge Black Friday sale and folks put big orders together to get the free shipping. That store will have stock replaced in no time I am sure as they had only recently added additional SE parts into their e325 parts inventory. They wouldn't have added the SE parts in if they were looking to discontinue carrying the parts.

Now the e550 & e620 is another story. Others may disagree but I think I have seen enough info., and received enough info. from ACE to think the two larger electrics are discontinued. I may be wrong but I'm guessing we are gonna see upgraded new models to replace the e550 & e620 this coming year???
 

11-24-2009 06:41 PM  9 years ago
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mini titan avg crash price
erikpmort 7 806 11-30-2009 08:46 PM
Flying Brian
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Only wood blades I have flown on the MT are the Align wood 325s. They perform well for learning and I'll guess are the most popular wooden blades in the 325mm size. Do not fly them with a headspeed greater than 2800.
 

11-24-2009 11:43 AM  9 years ago
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mini titan avg crash price
erikpmort 7 806 11-30-2009 08:46 PM
Flying Brian
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I've been flying an MT for two years and had 13-crashes so I am qualified to answer.

Cost me about $30 plus the cost of whatever main blades I am flying. So, each crash can be from about $45-$80. If you trash a battery that is also an additional cost.
 

11-14-2009 12:12 AM  9 years ago
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bog ­čôĚ
mxz700 11 956 11-17-2009 08:50 PM
gigimc
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

These are the best pinions made. I can attest to their quality first hand.
http://www.readyheli.com/RevCo_Hard..._p/ho-0500h.htm

Your 2221-8 will get better "gas mileage" on a 12T even with the same headspeed as 13T tuned to match headspeeds. I've flown both 13T and 12T hundreds of flights. With matching headspeed, and all other things being equal, you will get an extra 45sec-1min more flight time with the lowered gear ratio using the 12T.

A 2221-8 on a 13T at 100% flat throttle curve is just SCARY over powered for the average flyer! But hey, try all sorts of different setups and choose what you like.
 

11-13-2009 10:14 PM  9 years ago
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bog ­čôĚ
mxz700 11 956 11-17-2009 08:50 PM
gigimc
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Go down a tooth on your pinion and up the throttle %.
+1
 

11-11-2009 04:52 PM  9 years ago
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Need a measurement
drmrjon 3 478 11-11-2009 07:06 PM
drmrjon
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

As close as I can tell by just using a tape measure I'll second the 17.5" figure.
 

10-27-2009 03:19 AM  9 years ago
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Scorpion 2221-8 or 2221-10 (for the motor upgraders)
HeliMan Dave 8 2066 10-30-2009 05:02 PM
Zaneman007
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I fly a 2221-8 on 12T and get 5:15min. flights on 3S 2200mah 25C. I only got 4:00min flights on the 13T eventhough I was flying the same headspeed with both setups (throttle curve changes).

The 2221-10 is a 4s motor. If I didn't have a bunch of 3s batts. already I would go 4S and the 2221-10 with about a 1600-1800mah batt.
 

10-22-2009 10:58 AM  10 years ago
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••­čÜüHelicopter e-Thunder - Raptor E325
Carbon Frame ­čôĚ
toolman18 8 1038 12-07-2009 01:40 AM
toolman18
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

That's not a CF frame, it's G10. Would make a fairly unique MT.
 

09-25-2009 04:25 AM  10 years ago
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E620 discontinued! ( page 1 2 3 )
RMG2 52 9240 04-16-2010 06:45 AM
HeliMan Dave
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

E620 discontinued!
I called ACE Hobby today for another issue and while I had the Customer Service person on the phone I ask him if the E620 would be receiving the new head upgrades that are on the new Titan 50 SE. The CS person told me the E620 was dicontinued and they( ACE) were not bringing it in any longer.

I'm only guessing, but what this means in my mind is TT is going to release a new version of the E620 but by a different name??? Doesn't make sense to discontinue a popular heli other wise???
 

09-23-2009 11:20 PM  10 years ago
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New Prototype carbon tail case ­čôĚ
Acitam 5 998 10-01-2009 12:46 PM
Acitam
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Beautiful workmanship! Very nice looking tail assembly!

If the whole linkage assembly has less slop than the stock components I would be interested in the upgrade. If there is no improvement in slop/play then I would not buy the assembly just for the "bling" factor.

Are you considering retailing this tail assembly as an upgrade?
 

09-18-2009 12:24 AM  10 years ago
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ESC/Motor/Battery Recomendation
Villious 3 703 09-18-2009 01:45 PM
Villious
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

A great motor for long flight times and adequate power for all aerobatics is the Scorpion 2216-12. If you are a beginner just hovering and a little forward flight you will get 6.5-7min. flights with the average 3S 2200mah 25c batts.!

The most popular motor in the 450-class is the Scorpion 2221-8 but you will give-up about 2mins. of flight time from the 2216-12 all other things being equal.

I have been flying a HobbyWing Pentium OPTO 35amp with seperate BEC for about 1.7yrs and had no trouble with it. There are several good ESCs so it's up to you. Many think the Castle Creation and Kontronik ESCs are the best money can buy???

Really hard to beat the Zippy/Flightmax/Turnigy batteries for value. Check them out at HobbyCity.

Some are saying the new Hyperion batts. are the best money can buy but they are so new the jury is still out on how good they are???

Good luck.
 

09-07-2009 08:28 PM  10 years ago
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KBDD Tail Blades
Rotofreek 3 784 01-01-2010 09:58 PM
Helizrule
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

59.6mm KBDD blades. Love them on my MT!
 

08-29-2009 11:09 AM  10 years ago
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Scorpion -8 motor with 35 amp CC esc?
husafreak 7 768 08-29-2009 11:09 AM
RMG2
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I fly a 35amp HobbyWing Pentium with seperate BEC and have no trouble at all with the 2221-8 W/13T. This ESC is 1.7-yrs. old and flown many flights a week, every week with rare exception.
 

08-02-2009 10:00 PM  10 years ago
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ERaptor SE 90 & On Board Flight Video ­čôĚ
HeliCSR 3 646 08-02-2009 11:12 PM
HeliCSR
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Very cool! Got any vids. of the heli flying?

Is your heli a conversion kit?
 

08-02-2009 08:36 AM  10 years ago
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SE with a tail problem
Johann 5 630 08-02-2009 08:36 AM
RMG2
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Have you tried setting up the tail to mechanical center in rate mode just to know the gyro/servo is working very little at hover?

Turn the gain down in rate mode then slide the tail servo brackets ever so slightly one way or the other until the heli will hold in hover. Once you have a mechanical center go back to HH mode and the tail shold be really locked.

Is the ESC really close to the gyro?

If none of this stuff works you may just have a gyro problem???
 

08-01-2009 09:40 PM  10 years ago
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SE with a tail problem
Johann 5 630 08-02-2009 08:36 AM
RMG2
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Okay, try moving the the ball on the servo horn out one more hole to gain more movement of the linkage shaft with the same servo inputs.
 

08-01-2009 08:30 PM  10 years ago
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SE with a tail problem
Johann 5 630 08-02-2009 08:36 AM
RMG2
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

If you have any binding or slightly to tight pieces of the tail assembly you can have drift problems. What happens is when the gyro servo is trying to make those tiny movements to hold the tail still, the assembly bind won't allow those tiny movements.

Take the tail assembly apart and make sure each and every piece is loose with not even a slight amount of drag.
 

07-30-2009 04:16 PM  10 years ago
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••­čÜüHelicopter e-Thunder - Raptor E325
Mini Titan Black landing skid
lloyd 2 554 07-30-2009 06:58 PM
lloyd
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

 

07-29-2009 04:54 PM  10 years ago
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Does a scorpion motor on the Mini T create alot more power????
Blades345 10 826 07-29-2009 06:42 PM
Blades345
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I'm flying the 2221-8 now because my skills have progressed to the point I HOPE I can make use of the extra headspeed. However, for the average or sport flyer I think the Scorpion 2216-12 on a 13T at 100% flat is the best motor for a 450. Plenty of power to fly all basic aerobatics and 6-min flight times.
 

07-28-2009 09:20 PM  10 years ago
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4S on the Mini Titan, is it possible?
Blades345 18 2157 09-27-2009 03:15 PM
tommytt1
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Blades345, keep in mind that the 2221-8 is a 3s motor and probably the favorite among the majority of 450 flyers. You could fly the 2221-8 on 4s but to keep the head speed where you want it you would be using a very small pinion. Some of the good 3D guys fly the -8 on 4s but they are flying crazy headspeed that works well for their style of flying.

Just for future reference, if you decided to try 4s you would need to replace the stock battery tray with the tray supplied on the SE version. The SE tray sits lower on the frame and allows more room between the tray and the canopy. I fly the SE tray even with 3s but I have to ramp it up a little on the upper end so my batts. don't contact the top of my 2221-8 motor.

Good luck, hope ya like the Scorpion motor.
 

07-28-2009 08:25 PM  10 years ago
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4S on the Mini Titan, is it possible?
Blades345 18 2157 09-27-2009 03:15 PM
tommytt1
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Tosh, I've made my point and won't argue the point any further as it's clear you have an opinion that is different than my own. Folks that read this thread can read our differing opinions and make their own decisions on the issue.
 

07-28-2009 08:25 PM  10 years ago
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TT E550 or E325 ( page 1 2 )
Oppermanr 27 1673 08-05-2009 07:58 PM
Oppermanr
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Tosh, I've made my point and won't argue the point any further as it's clear you have an opinion that is different than my own. Folks that read this thread can read our differing opinions and make their own decisions on the issue.
 

07-28-2009 07:16 PM  10 years ago
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TT E550 or E325 ( page 1 2 )
Oppermanr 27 1673 08-05-2009 07:58 PM
Oppermanr
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Tosh, what does any of what you just wrote above have to do with your statement, "Why anyone would recomend buying a fixed pitch heli is beyond me"???

I will respectfully disagree with you about fixed pitch helis being..., "next to useless outdoors".

Here is a video of one of my FP helis. Ya, it won't do much but it sure as heck is a good tool for learning to fly a single rotor.

Like I commented in one of your other seriously opinionated replies..., "each to their own".

http://vimeo.com/3074927
 

07-28-2009 07:05 PM  10 years ago
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4S on the Mini Titan, is it possible?
Blades345 18 2157 09-27-2009 03:15 PM
tommytt1
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

The fact that l`ve tried it
Okay, so you don't like a 4s setup I can respect that but that doesn't mean 4s is a "waste of time".

I've had forum contact with a few folks that fly 4s on their MTs and love it. One fellow I know has been flying 4s for a long time and gets longer flight times, cool temps on the electronics, and all with a 4s that weighs no more than the average 3s 2200mah that most fly on the MT. The logic for why a 4s setup has some benefit over a 3s setup is pretty straight forward.

As they say..., "each to their own".
 

07-28-2009 06:44 PM  10 years ago
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4S on the Mini Titan, is it possible?
Blades345 18 2157 09-27-2009 03:15 PM
tommytt1
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

With the 30 and 35C 3s packs we get these days 4s is a waste of time
"A waste of time"..., what do you base that opinionated statement on?

A 4s setup will deliver the necessary headspeed and stress the batteries far less than any 3s setup.
 

07-28-2009 06:39 PM  10 years ago
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••­čÜüHelicopter e-Thunder Tiger
TT E550 or E325 ( page 1 2 )
Oppermanr 27 1673 08-05-2009 07:58 PM
Oppermanr
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Why anyone would recomend buying a fixed pitch heli is beyond me
It's about budget, and time flying not fixing.

A simple FP will teach a person to hover and learn basic FF at a low cost in parts and short time doing repairs. Recommending a person move from a coaxial to an FP as a first single rotor may not be for everyone, but it cetainly is a good route to learning this hobby for many.
 

07-28-2009 07:17 AM  10 years ago
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4S on the Mini Titan, is it possible?
Blades345 18 2157 09-27-2009 03:15 PM
tommytt1
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

A few fly 4s. A great motor for 4s is the Scorpion 2221-10! If I was to start over again with my MT I would put it on 4s.
 

07-27-2009 09:06 PM  10 years ago
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TT E550 or E325 ( page 1 2 )
Oppermanr 27 1673 08-05-2009 07:58 PM
Oppermanr
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I have no experience with that new Futaba GY520 gyro so can't say but it is light enough and small enough to fit nicely on a 450.

The 9254 is a bit large/heavy for a 450. If you like Futaba most use the 9257 on the tail of 450s.

Also, I have not tried the S3156 for cyclic I only pointd out that they spec. to fit the mounts without trimming the mounts. One thing I don't know about with the S3156 is whether they have a servo horn that has small enough holes for the e325 balls screws to thread into. The Hitecs have one horn with smaller holes that work perfectly for the small screws and other horns with larger holes. Don't know what's offered with the S3156???

Anyone know about the horms on the S3156?
 

07-27-2009 08:10 PM  10 years ago
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Oppermanr 27 1673 08-05-2009 07:58 PM
Oppermanr
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Oregon, USA

I would go for the SE as the standard plastic head is CR@&.
Lloyd, I don't agree with that statement. The only trouble with the plastic head is when people overtighten the mounting bolt and oblong the hole so the head can rock back and forth on the shaft slightly. If the head mounting bolt is just snugged and nuts locked with locktite the plastic head performs just fine.
 

07-27-2009 08:05 PM  10 years ago
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Oppermanr 27 1673 08-05-2009 07:58 PM
Oppermanr
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Both the plain plastic and SE versions fly well with no issues so that choice is up to you.

I like to choose my own components but that's a personal thing.

Most folks fly Hitec HS65s for cyclic but they require some trimming of the servo trays to fit. There is a newer Futaba S3156 that looks like it will bolt in without trimming. The specs and price are good plus it's digital.
http://www.servocity.com/html/s3156_servo.html

Gyro is another personal thing but I like my Hitec5000 and matching Hitec5083 tail servo. Has performed pefectly for almost 1.5yrs of flying.

Good luck, and buy plenty of main shafts, main gears, and main blades. These three items are bent or broken in almost every crash.
 

07-27-2009 06:50 PM  10 years ago
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Oppermanr 27 1673 08-05-2009 07:58 PM
Oppermanr
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

If you are fresh off a coaxial heli you will crash any single rotor almost instantly so the question is how comfortable are you with repairs, and cost of repairs?

Between the two you mentioned I think the Mini Titan is the choice just on parts cost and ease of repairs alone.

I know you didn't ask for opinions on a first single rotor but I'm gonna offer that you might want to try a simple inexpensive fixed pitch heli like a Honey Bee FP to learn basic single rotor control first.
 

07-26-2009 05:53 PM  10 years ago
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RICH.L 20 3294 08-23-2009 10:19 PM
Flying Brian
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Im wondering the same thing. I have tried dying parts orange but never looked that good.
The skids dye very well (I've done it) but the white paddles don't take the dye as well.

Boil a large pan of water, pour the water in a container you don't want for any other use, add powdered Rit Dye, submerge the washed and cleaned skids in the dye bath, leave for a couple days for black, or check often and remove as the shade of bright color is achieved.
 

07-25-2009 11:58 PM  10 years ago
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RICH.L 20 3294 08-23-2009 10:19 PM
Flying Brian
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Blades345, have you considered trying the new 450 size KBDD paddles? They are slightly lighter than the green TT SE paddles and you can get them in various colors just like the tail blades.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product...-Paddles-Orange
 

07-22-2009 08:08 PM  10 years ago
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BigHarv 9 1176 07-23-2009 06:57 PM
Melnic
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I'm wondering if we are gonna see an upgraded e620 to follow with the new changes to the 50 Titan SE???

I actually emailed Ace about this but received no reply in over two weeks.
 

07-08-2009 05:28 PM  10 years ago
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64BlueFish 8 747 07-11-2009 01:33 AM
64BlueFish
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I use the metal mixers, plastic cage, and plastic see-saw. I don't use any spacer between the bearing and the see-saw. I use a dab of CA inside the threaded hole then carefully screw in the mounting bolt so all the play is taken out of the assembly but the arms still move freely.

Works fine this way and the bolt heads don't touch the plastic cage.
 

07-02-2009 05:42 PM  10 years ago
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lloyd 5 596 07-02-2009 11:25 PM
fenderstrat
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Lloyd, did you pick-up on the design error Align made on that so called "Pro"? They designed some pitch in the tail blades at center slider position to help counter torque of the main blades. Trouble is they built-in the blade pitch BACKWARDS!!! The built-in tail blade pitch actually makes the heli yaw worse, not better! How could they make a mistake like that?!?!

Personally, I love the Mini Titan but if I was gonna buy another 450 it would be a Beam E4, not that poorly designed Align "Pro".

As to your question about whether TT has anything coming new for the MT, I haven't heard of anything personally.
 

06-05-2009 06:24 PM  10 years ago
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aerodynamic18 27 1333 06-10-2009 01:56 PM
Rogerm069
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I feel like a glutton. I have 11 3S 2200mah batts.
 

06-05-2009 04:14 AM  10 years ago
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racin06 3 503 06-06-2009 08:20 AM
Tubeheadz
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Racin, I've not read of anyone using a micro servo on the tail of the MT so maybe the mounts were not designed to accomodate a micro.

I would imagine you could make that 3154 work if you elongate the holes with your dremel.

.09sec. speed at 6V is a little slow for the tail compared to the .05-.07sec. most use but I guess the proof will be in the testing.

Good luck friend and glad to see you finally got around to building your MT kit that you have had for months!
 

06-03-2009 07:01 PM  10 years ago
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aerodynamic18 8 499 06-03-2009 09:38 PM
aerodynamic18
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

with my mini titan with the standard esc and motor the heli runs fine. i have a 2200mah 3s1p battery which came 2nd hand with the heli. when the battrey is done(ie the heli is losing power) all that goes back into the battrey is about 1450mah max. i have done this 3 times and every time the same amount goes back into the battery. is this correct or does the battery sound done?
My old 2200mah do exactly the same as you describe where my brand new 2200mah batts. perform and charge properly.

I would guess the battery is just old and about gone.
 

06-03-2009 06:55 PM  10 years ago
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Papabill 8 728 06-16-2009 01:53 PM
Papabill
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

have you checked every gear in the servo?I know it piro's fine in a hover but maybe under load a chipped gear is getting jammed...just throwing out ideas
Fenderstrat, that was my first thought as well but when he said it piroed fine at hover that really threw me off. Perhaps under load that tooth may be just chipped or bent (plastic Karbonite) enough the teeth skip but without load they push through???

I'll be curious to hear what is discovered on this???
 

06-02-2009 07:22 AM  10 years ago
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lloyd 8 659 06-03-2009 06:30 PM
wyldkat
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Oregon, USA

 

05-31-2009 05:36 AM  10 years ago
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racin06 4 485 06-01-2009 12:18 PM
steveoz
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Oregon, USA

Hi Racin, how ya been buddy? I offered you a reply on your original thread.

Good luck.
 

05-30-2009 07:53 AM  10 years ago
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Swashplate 74 2977 05-30-2009 02:39 PM
copperclad
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Oregon, USA

Guys, let me clarify my position on this. I made an error originally in this thread by agreeing with Swashplate that my MT showed maybe 10-degress out of phase on my upper swash balls (I admitted that in a later reply). I guess I didn't really examine and GUESS correctly how many degrees out my swash balls actually were.

Now, here are the facts for my MT. When my MT was all plastic it was a few degrees (2-5 degrees) out of zero/neutral phase. Now that my MT is freshly rebuilt with partial metal and plastic head assembly it still has the same 2-5 degrees (estimate) out of phase error.

The heli is assembled correctly guaranteed.

Not only do the swash balls indicate a slight phase error, but when I test paddle interaction the paddles confirm a phase error. Trust me, when I check for paddle interaction I am very careful to make sure the head is exactly aligned with the necessary axis. If the head is not held precisely in alignment the paddles will look to have interaction that really is not there. I'm doing it correctly.

Then finally, If I inhibit (turn off) my mix functions and fly the heli with the phase error my heli shows it by leaning over in flips, nosing-up in rolls, and veering out of a big loop. I can return to the truck, change the battery, initialize the mix functions with my phase corrections dialed in and go fly again. The heli now flips flat, rolls like an airplane, and loops straight over the top!

You can call B.S. on this but it's the Gods truth!

Now, from my perspective I want to know why??? Why does my MT show a minor out of phase and yet we have never heard folks talk about an MT with phasing issues??? Is it because phasing is a subject that is hard to understand and many folks don't know what it is??? Is it that beginners don't fly well enough to tell the difference until their skills improve??? Is that the phase error is so minor that most folks are not as anal as me about perfection and don't worry about it??? Or, is it that my kit is the only kit in the world with this issue??? I doubt it.

I'm going to buy a metal washout block and see if it is designed to retard phasing slightly from my plastic block??? If it does correct my minor phase error then we know that TT recognized the issue and changed parts to correct it. And if that is true then it stands to reason that early plastic MT kits had a minor phase issue.

My logic, so take it as you will???

I thank you folks for a most enjoyable and interesting thread. I'll reply next when I do purchase the metal washout block and report on my findings, or discover any other related issue that could explain my MTs phase error.

Bye the way Copperclad, I wish all helis had an adjustable phasing block! If an aftermarket manuf. designed a new head with an adjustable phasing block that would be a useful part! I have machinst skills, perhaps I'll build one myself???

Have a good weekend folks!
 

05-29-2009 07:19 PM  10 years ago
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Swashplate 74 2977 05-30-2009 02:39 PM
copperclad
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Fender, thanks for the info. on your plastic & metal washout blocks. You are always a helpful sort in these threads.

The plastic washout block you see in my photo is the original part that came in my brand new kit about 15-months ago.

It seems that TT has changed the design of a couple parts in the last year or so??? If you look at my photo and look at some of Copperclad's photos you can see the "dog-leg" arm that attaches between the washout arm and the upper swash ball are of different design. And now you mention you have not seen a plastic washout block that looks like the one in my photo so has TT also changed the design of that part in both plastic and metal???

It does make sense that my heli has only a partial metal assembly, and my heli has a small out of phase condition, that TT has indeed changed the dimension on the washout block at the very least???

This thread started out discussing that at least two of us have out of phase conditions with our MT helis. Copperclad was observant enough to notice Swashplate's heli had the washout arms mounted upside down. Now, I believe we have discovered that through examination of my heli's mixed old and new parts that TT has changed the dimensions of one or two parts related to phase setting.

This has been a good and useful thread.

Here is a photo of a page from my manual that shows what the parts look like that I have with my kit.
 

05-29-2009 08:20 AM  10 years ago
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Swashplate 74 2977 05-30-2009 02:39 PM
copperclad
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I am even more lost now.not lost on the concept or what we are trying to do, just lost on whos heli is doing what.RMG2 your head is built correctly but you still have your phasing off by 10 deg???

do you guys understand what I am trying to explain?looking at the picture of RMG's heli.if he replaced his washout with the style I have on mine his heli would line up perfectly
So Fender, why do you say, "if he replaced his washout with the style I have on mine his heli would line up perfectly"? Are you saying that you know for a fact there is a difference between the metal and plastic washout blocks? Does the metal block adjust the phase setting slightly different because the pin slots are offset to one side on the block? I can't tell from looking at the plastic block installed if the holes for the pins are offset or symetrical from side to side??? If the design of the metal block addressed a slight out of phase issue that perhaps was there with the plastic block then that solves the puzzle???

Yes, spacing the washout arms farther away from the block does change the phase setting by simply pulling the upper swash around slightly. Probably not more than a few degrees but it takes very little to show paddle interaction???

When my MT was all plastic it also was slightly out of zero or neutral phase. Nothing has changed since I added the partial metal parts. When it was plastic it showed slight paddle interactions and the balls were a few degrees advanced just like they are now. I tuned the phase setting to where I needed it with the TX mixes and the heli flys perfectly in all attitudes.

I have two questions stemming from this thread. Is there any dimensional difference between the older and newer "dog-leg" arms, and is there any built in (designed in) phase setting change with the metal block verses the plastic block???

We can all speculate on this issue until we can't stand it anymore but I'm guessing the only way I'm gonna get the answer to this is to purchase the metal washout block and perhaps the new style "dog-leg" arms and try them.

Or, since I have this all sorted by using my TX mixes I can just fly, enjoy my heli and forget about this until the next mandatory rebuild.
 

05-28-2009 08:18 PM  10 years ago
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Swashplate 74 2977 05-30-2009 02:39 PM
copperclad
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Copperclad, I wondered about a possible difference between the plastic block and the metal as well??? Besides width, I also wonder if the plastic block positions the upper AR pins slightly off center like the metal block does??? That alone would makeup the difference in error my heli shows.

Swashplate, I see you have different spacers than I do. If ya looked at the link I posted it shows the brass washers I installed but that doesn't mean they are correct. I have some aluminum washers that are the correct O.D. & I.D and are about half the thickness. Perhaps I'll install those???

Like you said, "if it ain't broke don't fix it" and my heli is flying so well right now with every part humming along perfectly! I may wait on testing any change until the next rebuild (crash or otherwise).

Good thread guys, just little stuff but the little things make all the difference in a good flying heli.
 

05-28-2009 06:09 PM  10 years ago
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Swashplate 74 2977 05-30-2009 02:39 PM
copperclad
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Copperclad, I know with regard to zero phase we are looking at swash ball alignment with the uppper AR pins. There was no confusion about that. Like Swashplate pointed out, I used the swash AR pin for alignment reference in my photo as it is also aligned with the ball if the upper pins are aligned.

The brass washers that space my washout arms away from the center block came packaged with the metal arms( http://www.amainhobbies.com/product...oducts_id/16239 ). Just looking at them I would guess they are .020"-.025" thick. The spacing, or gap between the arm and block is also created by the inner bearing which does not sit flush in the arm itself. Combining the amount of the bearing that sticks out past flush and the thickness of the washer there is about .050" space created. I do think if the space was lessened the swash & balls would be pushed back around a few degrees???

I just took my heli out in the sun light and did the absolute best I could aligning the head with the long axis and I would say my guess of a 10-degree misalignment error is exagerrated. It's less than 10-degrees but no question there is misalignment.

For me personally, I am not gonna be content I have done all I can to eliminate this possible mechanical phase error until I have a set of those different style "dog-legs" to compare. I may pull my swash arms and see if I can mount them without those spacer washers and not have a bind issue???

Besides all this alignment talk I can say with absolute certainty that my paddles show interaction without the TX mixes to tune it out.

Just this last week after rebuilding my heli from all plastic to a new motor, metal head parts, bearings, etc. etc. I had my mixes set to INH (off) for initial testing. My heli flipped with a tendency to roll through the flips (same as it did in plastic form). I went to the bench and checked for paddle interactions and there was indeed interaction just as there was prior with all plastic parts. After tuning out all interaction on both axis my heli flips flat and rolls like an airplane with no pitch-up like some report with the MT.

I love these threads that get your brain working. No sooner than ya have your setup to what ya think is perfect someone brings a subject that shows an issue ya didn't know ya had!

Have a good day all.
 

05-28-2009 08:27 AM  10 years ago
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Swashplate 74 2977 05-30-2009 02:39 PM
copperclad
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Guys, I just returned to catch-up on our interesting thread. I see where you guys are going with the washout arms but that is not the answer for my heli. My arms are, and were mounted correctly and my swash balls are not inline with the AR pins and are indeed advanced roughly 10-degrees. I say. "roughly" because just eyeballing the head parallel with the long axis of the heli is subject to at least a few degrees error???

I'm still curious to know whether there is an actual design difference between the arms Swashplate and I have verses the arms Copperclad has???

I'm of the opinion that the slight phase error on my own MT is caused by the washers that space the arms away from the block (discussed earlier), or there is a difference in the "dog-leg" arms???

Though the angle of the photo doesn't show the misalignment of the ball as it actually looks you can see from reference to the swash AR pin the balls are not in perfect alignment with the long axis. The head is eyeballed as close as I can see it parallel with the boom.

"Back to the drawing board" friends.

 

05-27-2009 08:43 PM  10 years ago
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Swashplate 74 2977 05-30-2009 02:39 PM
copperclad
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The TT metal washout arms can only go on one way, there's no question about that.

I really think the answer is with those new style "dog-leg" arms. I've looked at the part photos of several retailers in the last 15mins and all show the "dog-leg" piece the same as what Copperclad has.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product...oducts_id/11442
 

05-27-2009 08:27 PM  10 years ago
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Swashplate 74 2977 05-30-2009 02:39 PM
copperclad
RMG2

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Logically, I would think there is a functional difference between the two styles of "dog-leg" arms otherwise why would the manuf. invest in a new mold to change the part???

My heli was a kit but over a year old. My metal parts were purchased in the last month but they could have been in stock with the retailer for a long time???

Now I want a set of those arms Copperclad has to see if TT recognized the phase error and corrected it???
 

05-27-2009 07:57 PM  10 years ago
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Swashplate 74 2977 05-30-2009 02:39 PM
copperclad
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Copperclad, I don't have the metal washout block so maybe Swashplate can answer about swapping it around but I can say that the plastic version has a respective top and bottom to it.
 

05-27-2009 07:54 PM  10 years ago
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Swashplate 74 2977 05-30-2009 02:39 PM
copperclad
RMG2

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Swashplate, another good observation. I hadn't noticed the difference in those "dog-leg" arms being different between your heli and Cooperclad's.

I just checked mine and they are the same as Swashplate's. These are the "dog-leg" arms that came attached to the metal washout arms I recently purchased. I dug into my parts box and looked at the all plastic washout arms and "dog-leg" arms I had originally and they are also the exact same as what is on my metal washout, and again, same as Swashplate's.

Copperclad, how old are the "dog-leg" arms you have?

Copperclad thanks for using your photos to explain what I was trying to describe about the relationship of the spacer washer and the swash balls, you understood me exactly correct.
 

05-27-2009 07:04 PM  10 years ago
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Swashplate 74 2977 05-30-2009 02:39 PM
copperclad
RMG2

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Copperclad, that's an interesting observation and thought about this issue. When I look at my setup in the same orientation as your photos the balls on my swash are not in alignment with the AR pins as your's is. Mine are about 10-degrees advanced as was discussed earlier.

I am using partial metal and partial plastic head assembly but all TT OEM parts. Metal head, metal mixer arms, metal washout arms and the remainder is plastic.

On the subject of the washout arms I see your point. Mine are assembled correctly but note that TT instructs using some small brass washers to be inserted between the bearing in the arms and the washout block. The effect is setting the arms away from the block and that in turn pulls the upper swash around to follow the arms. Hope that makes sense??? Not sure those washers are offsetting the arms enough to pull the swash balls around a full 10-degrees out of alignment with the AR pins but the logic in how it is assembled is there.

Hmmmm???

PS - Why are those long arms on your setup bent???
 

05-26-2009 05:03 PM  10 years ago
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Swashplate 74 2977 05-30-2009 02:39 PM
copperclad
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Thanks RMG.
I guess its the geometry then. When you say "Neutral Phase" i'm assuming you used Aile->Ele, Elev->Aile mixes etc. to eliminate interactions. Is that correct or am i reading incorrectly?
Swashplate, that is correct "neutral phase" to me means zero paddle interactions. I use AIL to ELV in Mix-1 and ELV to AIL in Mix-2. My mix percentages are never the same between the two either. What's important is to have the paddles not moving at all.

What's neat about phase tuning is you can actually introduce a later phase, or earlier phase to get your heli to perform any way you want.

Brian, I DO have percentages mixed to achieve neutral phase. If I had zero percentages entered then I might as well have the mixes set to INH, or off.
 

05-26-2009 07:05 AM  10 years ago
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Swashplate 74 2977 05-30-2009 02:39 PM
copperclad
RMG2

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Hi RMG,
How far away are the inner balls on the swash from 90* position when you align the rotor head to the heli. Mine is atleast 10* out.
I would say 10-degrees is about what my MT shows and all the head parts are new including the swash as I just did a rebuild.

I don't know if TT designed it that way, but mine flys better with neutral phase.
 

05-26-2009 06:27 AM  10 years ago
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Swashplate 74 2977 05-30-2009 02:39 PM
copperclad
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I have to adjust the phase I want on my MT by using the two mixes in the TX as well.

My MT flips flat and rolls on a string if I set my phase to neutral on both axis.
 

05-26-2009 06:11 AM  10 years ago
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What batteries for mini titan
aerodynamic18 15 4177 05-26-2009 07:37 PM
aerodynamic18
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I have good luck with Zippys. Been flying Zippy batts. for over a year and they give long service so long as you do not over discharge them. The higher the amp draw of your chosen motor, the higher the "C" rating you need in your battery.

I fly aerobatics with a Scorpion 2221-8 13T and the Zippys give good power and come down warm but not hot.

Here is the model I am currently flying.
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/...00mAh_3S1P_25C_
 

05-26-2009 05:59 AM  10 years ago
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Tail Drive gears
wyldkat 5 534 05-26-2009 01:23 PM
Flying Brian
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I flew the original tail drive gears for 14-months and hundreds of flights! I only recently replaced both drive gears as I did a fairly complete rebuild of my heli just because of wear to some parts, and bearings.
 

05-19-2009 07:37 PM  10 years ago
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Plastic swashplate ...
Tritan 5 579 05-23-2009 03:52 PM
Tritan
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

My plastic swash developed about 1mm of slop between the lower and upper sections after 14-months of flight.

I just rebuilt the head on my MT with part metal and part plastic components and my new plastic swash has zero slop. If you have a brand new swash with 2mm of slop/play you have a defective part.
 

05-08-2009 06:41 PM  10 years ago
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InvertedDude 9 707 05-09-2009 08:10 AM
deafheliflyer
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Oh, I see what you are asking about.

Yes, sometimes you have to do 1/2-turn to achieve tracking and then have to snap the link on with the "T" to the inside of the ball. Don't worry about it if you have to do it, they won't come off or give you any trouble.

I've been flying the MT for over a year and never had one bit of trouble with the links even if snapped on opposite the ideal position.

I only use the long links that run from the swash to the mixers for blade tracking. I never use the short links from the mixers to the grips.

It's not uncommon to have one long link a full turn different length than the other to achieve tracking.
 

05-08-2009 06:08 PM  10 years ago
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InvertedDude 9 707 05-09-2009 08:10 AM
deafheliflyer
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I'm not sure why you would be having trouble??? You don't need ball link pliers on these links and they are easy to pop on and off for adjustment???

If you can't get to the ball on the mixer arms just move the assembly so the arm is sticking more up or down for the best place to get at it.
 

05-08-2009 06:02 PM  10 years ago
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InvertedDude 15 2306 05-08-2009 07:32 PM
TOSH
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Like AltecLansing, I get 6-mins on 3S 2200 25C batts. basic aerobatics, etc.

When my MT was stock I flew it up to 7.5-mins and thought I was fine as the cells were dropping to around 3.5V per cell but the batts. didn't last as long as they should before they were "toast". Now I follow the 80% rule and my batts. are staying in much better condition.
 

05-06-2009 07:34 AM  10 years ago
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InvertedDude 15 2306 05-08-2009 07:32 PM
TOSH
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

You want long run times and good power??? Put in this motor I am selling in the classifieds.
http://www.runryder.com/t513222p1/
 

04-28-2009 07:20 AM  10 years ago
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blade size
signguy71 5 569 04-29-2009 03:42 AM
Rchover1967
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

325MM advertised, but really 315MM hole to tip.
 

04-26-2009 07:08 AM  10 years ago
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Tubeheadz 8 789 04-27-2009 02:49 PM
Flying Brian
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I'm no pro but if I was you I would try adding more pitch to your heli before I bought longer blades. Max. your vertical swash travel as high as you can get it without binding and you will effectively be adding more lift at the same place on the throttle curve. The added blade pitch will give you back your lift at a lower head speed.

Just another way of thinking about your issue.
 

04-22-2009 07:08 PM  10 years ago
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CNC HEAD vs Kasama Head
butters149 19 1901 05-13-2009 09:14 PM
Robert-M
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

One step easier, even the white paddles are rippin fast, and crazy good.....
Brian, I gotta go with Fender on this one. If ya haven't tried the lighter green SE paddles you will be shocked how much quicker your cyclic will be all other things being equal on your heli.
 

04-21-2009 05:55 PM  10 years ago
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CNC HEAD vs Kasama Head
butters149 19 1901 05-13-2009 09:14 PM
Robert-M
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Hi Wants to Fly
OK you say you`re a newbie with an E325. l`ve got to ask why do you need to upgrade the head?
I was thinking that as I read it, but he wasn't asking for advice about whether he should do it, just that he wants to.

I've been flying an all plastic MT for a year now and have never felt the need (need is different than want) to change anything to metal. Having said that, now that I have learned all basic aerobatics (flips, loops, rolls, stalls, inverted, etc.) I do feel like I need to up the power and tighten-up the head assemby to continue my learning from here.

I plan on using only the stock TT parts as there is no fitment issues like others report using some after-market parts.

My plans are for metal head (plastic grips), metal mixers, metal wash-out, plastic swash.

This video I made three months ago is with an all plastic Mini Titan and inexpensive CF blades.

http://www.vimeo.com/3079072
 

04-18-2009 07:53 AM  10 years ago
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Hitec hg5000 gyro
woody 15 916 04-19-2009 05:08 AM
woody
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I wonder if it has to do with which TX switch he is using for the gyro???

Just thoughts, don't know if using the flight mode switch verses the gear/flap switch would make any difference or not???
 

04-17-2009 09:18 PM  10 years ago
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Hitec hg5000 gyro
woody 15 916 04-19-2009 05:08 AM
woody
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

What do you have the gains set to in your TX? The lights relate to the amount of gain set in the TX. I fly this gyro and I don't know if having very low gain settings will cause zero lights to come on, but I do know the higher the gain settings in the TX the more the lights come on moving to the right side of the light scale.
 

04-11-2009 07:57 AM  10 years ago
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Spider Landing Gear ­čôĚ
Charlie 14 2236 05-08-2009 10:13 AM
TOSH
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

I have seen photos on a thread somwewhere that showed those X-gear bent badly! They are not indestructable.
 

04-10-2009 08:56 PM  10 years ago
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Mini Titan Upgraded Frames
Flying Brian 7 815 04-18-2009 05:35 PM
Flying Brian
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

No experience or knowledge to share about those frames Brian, sorry.

If you are just looking for a project to work on then trying a new frame should be fun! Let us know how it works out if you give it a go.
 

04-03-2009 09:09 PM  10 years ago
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What pinion with Scorpion motor
ki-gas 2 725 04-03-2009 09:18 PM
Nizam
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

If you are a beginner I would fly a 12T, maybe even an 11T with the 2221-8. If you are an advanced flyer then the 13T is what ya want.
 

03-24-2009 07:49 PM  10 years ago
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Mini titan tracking problem with spacers
lloyd 17 2328 04-09-2009 07:00 PM
rumsnipe
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Are you using the Thunder Tiger spacers or some other?
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product...oducts_id/16223

I use the TT spacers linked above for all blades I have ever tried on my MT and I have honestly never had a set of blades I could not get to track perfectly. Some blades require being attached fairly tight to track but they always do track with a little linkage adjustment.

I've flown Align woodies, and three different brands of CF blades.
 

03-23-2009 07:36 AM  10 years ago
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january flyer 7 916 03-23-2009 10:03 PM
january flyer
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Sweet!
 

03-20-2009 06:46 PM  10 years ago
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Flying Brian 49 2844 04-07-2009 02:49 AM
Tubeheadz
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Brian, it will be fine if it rolled straight when you finished straightening it. I also check for straightness (even new shafts) by chucking in a drill motor and spinning them to speed.

Only shaft I straightened was the first I bent when my MT was new and I didn't have parts in stock. The shaft was fine until crash #2.

Like I said earlier, if I couldn't find parts in stock I would have no problem with flying straightened shafts.
 

03-20-2009 09:37 AM  10 years ago
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Flying Brian 49 2844 04-07-2009 02:49 AM
Tubeheadz
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Ive got one for you guys:

So I broke out the 22 ounce eastwing, and a chunk of 2x4, and smacked the slightly bent shaft. Well,,,,,,,,I must have hit it to hard, as I re-bent it 2 times as bad, in the oppisite direction.

I did practice for a bit doing it, and I found, light tapping, and alot of checking, really works. I used a black sharpie, and marked the high spots, and went to town, and I have pretty good looking shafts now..
Good one Brian! Now, if you go back and re-read my first reply in this thread you will relate to the "light taps" part!

It's good information for new to the hobby folks to know that these shafts can be straightened very well if they need, or desire to do so.
 

03-19-2009 10:21 PM  10 years ago
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Flying Brian 49 2844 04-07-2009 02:49 AM
Tubeheadz
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Gentlemen, can we conclude for the sake of those reading these threads to learn that it is accurate to say that straigtening a bent main shaft is possible?

New MT owners, if you do desire to straighten a main shaft and reuse it, it's possible. There is more than one way to achieve the task, and more than one reason why you may, or may not wish to do so.
 

03-15-2009 04:42 AM  10 years ago
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Flying Brian 49 2844 04-07-2009 02:49 AM
Tubeheadz
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Brian, I used a hammer and an anvil. Straighten the obvious bend first then continue to tap the shaft on all sides. Go lighter with the taps as the shaft nears perfectly straight. This process is kind of "hammer forging" if you will.

It takes a little time but you can get the shaft perfectly straight this way.
 

03-14-2009 06:55 PM  10 years ago
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Flying Brian 49 2844 04-07-2009 02:49 AM
Tubeheadz
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Tosh, I have straightened one stock e325 shaft successfully and it was perfectly straight but I was unable to straighten the hardened version.

I decided after straightening one that I would just buy new shafts after that. If parts were out of stock I would straighten and use a bent shaft though.

On the subject, I find both regular and hardened bend in the same type crash. I can't say going to hardened is a more cost effective solution. Not crashing does away with the problem!
 

03-01-2009 07:17 PM  10 years ago
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Flying Brian 10 544 03-01-2009 08:57 PM
Flying Brian
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Do you guys believe in ON/OFF switchs, mounted to the chassis?

Good points, and bad points needed please...
I always try to eliminate anything that adds weight, even if it's a part that is more convenient.
 

03-01-2009 05:51 AM  10 years ago
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Canopy settings
Flying Brian 10 544 03-01-2009 08:57 PM
Flying Brian
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Inside the canopy for me.
 

02-20-2009 07:11 PM  10 years ago
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Vance 6 591 02-21-2009 10:11 AM
Rogerm069
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Did you go ahead and ask HD why they are APPARENTLY not stocking the Sonix parts any longer? Please share the info. if you have any. I might add a couple alum. parts in the future and would hope HD keeps stocking them
 

02-20-2009 07:08 PM  10 years ago
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e325 Canopys ­čôĚ
Flying Brian 15 1086 02-26-2009 04:00 PM
4numen
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Brian, Proline makes one model for the MT. I have one (photo), but to be honest I don't like it very well. To my eye it looks just a little to large for a 450-class heli.

I have not read of anyone adapting another brand canopy to the MT but if you find any info. about that please share, I would like to know also???

 

02-19-2009 02:16 AM  10 years ago
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wws2010 15 797 02-19-2009 02:16 AM
RMG2
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Thanks for the direct link Kramer. I linked through the thread in case folks want to read the thread as well.
 

02-19-2009 01:23 AM  10 years ago
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Pitch up in ff? Can I fix it?
wws2010 15 797 02-19-2009 02:16 AM
RMG2
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Toolman, they say, "a picture is worth a 1000-words", or in this case a video is worth a 1000-words.

Watch the video on the 20th post of this page. Read the thread for even more info.

The video will show you how to use your TX mixes to set your blade phasing to neutral (if it's not already). To use phasing to tune a flight characteristic consider adding paddle input before, or after neutral position to get the heli to react the way you want it to.

After blade phase tuning I am a believer! My heli use to do a bit of a barrel roll with at-speed rolls and now after phase tuning it rolls like an airplane!

My heli use to lean, or roll a little while doing flips and after phase tuning it flips nice and flat!

Just another tuning option to tinker with. If it doesn't work for ya it's just TX setting and can easily, and quickly be disabled.

Phase tuning video
http://www.runryder.com/t475559p1/
 

02-18-2009 06:00 PM  10 years ago
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Pitch up in ff? Can I fix it?
wws2010 15 797 02-19-2009 02:16 AM
RMG2
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Have you guys having pitch-up issues tried adjusting your blade phasing through the use of your mixing channels in the TX? I fly phasing adjustments on both aileron and elevator and my MT rolls on a string! Before the phase tuning my MT wanted to nose-up a very little as it came out of rolls. It wasn't enough that I would call it a pitch-up problem but I still got it 100% corrected with the phase tuning.
 

02-18-2009 05:54 PM  10 years ago
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Pitch up in ff? Can I fix it?
wws2010 15 797 02-19-2009 02:16 AM
RMG2
RMG2

rrApprentice

Oregon, USA

Exactly what Kramer said! I thought of this as a possibility this morning and was gonna add it to your thread but kramer beat me to it.

I fly a totally plastic MT and have never had pitch-up issues with it whether flying wood or CF blades??? Not doubting anyone, just saying I haven't had the problem myself???
 
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