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03-01-2008 12:49 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade - Blade 400
3D Firmware version for AR6100E
jltarter 4 631 03-01-2008 12:49 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

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Philippines

That is good. No, mine doesn't have that yet. Cool. That will give us time to land the heli. It also serves as a warning that something isn't right.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

02-29-2008 10:21 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade - Blade 400
3D Firmware version for AR6100E
jltarter 4 631 03-01-2008 12:49 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

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Philippines

What's quick disconnect?Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

11-23-2007 04:39 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade - Blade 400
3D RTF Electric Mini Heli 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
Wolfpackin
Gino CP

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Philippines

I don't think the DX6i will be difficult to sell. It's part of teh excitement.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

11-22-2007 04:33 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
DD Tail Drive - Is there a full kit?
Mesnik 10 672 11-27-2007 09:29 PM
Mesnik
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

http://www.team-compy.com is coming out with a neat DD tail kit. I am not sure if it will come with the motor and heat sink. But the integrated fin motor mount is brilliant.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

11-20-2007 01:22 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade - Blade 400
3D RTF Electric Mini Heli 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
Wolfpackin
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

It comes when it comes.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

11-18-2007 03:06 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade - Blade 400
3D RTF Electric Mini Heli 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
Wolfpackin
Gino CP

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Philippines

Canopy Effects of Manila laid the paint based on my design. You can contact them for custom jobs through jambeedavid@yahoo.com. However, since they are in the Philippines, it would be better to have him buy the canopy, painted and shipped to you. They also have premade CopterX canopies with F1 theme designs.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

11-18-2007 02:27 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade - Blade 400
3D RTF Electric Mini Heli 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
Wolfpackin
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

No Blade 400 here. I fly a CopterX 450 SE.

Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

11-17-2007 03:31 PM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Straightening the lower half of the main shaft. 📷
scrappyheli 4 938 12-03-2007 08:18 PM
scrappyheli
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

It is safe to assume that bend will not occur on the part of the shaft between the upper and lower bearing. They can occur at 3 points: 1)above the main bearing 2) at the retaining pin hole 3) the part where shaft inters the main gear.

# 2 & 3 will not be fixed by the tool. For # 2, I put the shaft tip until the retaining pin hole into a drill chuck. Then bend by hand. Spin drill to check. For #3, I just bend by hand. Then spin on the tool to check.

Most of the time the bend is just above the upper bearing which the tool easily handles.
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

11-15-2007 01:59 PM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
CP Pro using DX 7 -- Use Gyro Sensing or what on setting up the E-Fright gyro?
keeter 6 620 11-15-2007 09:18 PM
keeter
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

E-Fright gyro. That is frightening. Most people around here use E-Flite Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

11-15-2007 02:12 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
GWS DD tail motor 📷 ( page 1 2 3 )
irush 44 2627 11-20-2007 03:53 PM
Helinorth
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

RStacy is on to something. When I was reporting success with my DD motors, I was barely crashing. It doesn't take to much of a hit to destroy the motor. Or at least cause significant binding.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

11-14-2007 05:08 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
GWS DD tail motor 📷 ( page 1 2 3 )
irush 44 2627 11-20-2007 03:53 PM
Helinorth
Gino CP

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Philippines

Primary reason is the use of the incorrect or defective motor. Secondary is the motor sustaining damage during installation. Other factors include one's head speed and pitch curve. The more torque the heli produces, the harder the motor works.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

11-10-2007 03:25 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
set up tips
ket 3 632 11-11-2007 09:30 PM
copperclad
Gino CP

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Philippines

http://www.bladecprepair.com

The HH Gyro will make handling tail easier.
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

11-05-2007 07:18 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Think the gyro is dying.
gmcullan 5 598 11-05-2007 07:18 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

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Philippines

Yeah these gyros just expire on you he he. I lost a Telebee once due to accumulated crashes. Then my ESky HH is failing me now. Feels loose. I guess the have really delicate circuitry.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

11-05-2007 02:31 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Broken Main Gear with brushless motor.
jbdww 2 536 11-05-2007 02:31 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

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Philippines

Looks like the motor seized on on you. Either the motor conked out or one of the head links came off and bound the drive train.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-30-2007 02:57 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade - Blade 400
3D RTF Electric Mini Heli 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
Wolfpackin
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

The DX6i looks like it will be available separately. If that's what you are after, you can still get a Trex.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-28-2007 06:42 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Few questions 📷
ntec 5 673 10-29-2007 02:44 PM
tutelar-rc
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

Main blade pitch should be 10 degree max. Also check for sticky head. You may have to rearrange the washers on the blade grip or use the small side of a stepped washer near the bearing race.

The motor will spin even on minimum throttle with a separate gyro. That is normal. Once you hover, the tail should stay put provided it is set correctly.

The stock 3-in-1 seems to have a program that cuts motor power when there is no throttle input. The separate gyro doesn't have this.
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-24-2007 05:46 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
"Crash Proof" Landing Gear Mod? 📷
scrappyheli 18 6261 10-28-2007 06:52 AM
dbcisco
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

OH, you won't need these aftermarket landing gear if you are better pilot. Stock will do fine and will be a lot lighter. I suggest that you put effort into becoming a better pilot than spending time modding your heli to be durable. Just have a bunch of parts in stock.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-23-2007 05:52 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
"Crash Proof" Landing Gear Mod? 📷
scrappyheli 18 6261 10-28-2007 06:52 AM
dbcisco
Gino CP

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Philippines

Another option is the nylon skids from freestyle hobby. Parts needed:

battery plate (CF or fiberglass)
boom clamp
mounting spacer for 4-in-1 tray
screws, nuts, bolts
nylon skids

http://www.freestyle-hobby.com/cata...?products_id=61
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-21-2007 05:20 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Converting Blade CP to Spektrum? 📷 ( page 1 2 )
imsofaman 25 3056 10-25-2007 02:29 AM
imsofaman
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

The EFlite G90 is ok.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-20-2007 02:40 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
The potential of a blade cp 📷
CARNAGE 11 1035 10-22-2007 02:49 AM
futuramille
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

The Darthdrk fuselages are great. They are fine for resurrecting outgrown helis or pimping your main heli.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-20-2007 06:53 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade - Blade 400
3D RTF Electric Mini Heli 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
Wolfpackin
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

Who says clone brands fly lousy or need fixing? I've been flying my Copterx for months stock and love it. I have not touched the setup since day one. It's just as reliable as a TRex and costs much less. It can use TRex parts too if needed. The RC-tek 450 is also doing very well. Design wise, it is up a notch from the TRex.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdeWrBXGMag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA6uq5_bvzg
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-20-2007 05:03 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Converting Blade CP to Spektrum? 📷 ( page 1 2 )
imsofaman 25 3056 10-25-2007 02:29 AM
imsofaman
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

I also hang at rcgroups. There are all sorts of characters there only because it has a wider audience and much more global. But it too is a rich source of information. Just ignore the misfits and pick on the relevant info.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-20-2007 03:55 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Converting Blade CP to Spektrum? 📷 ( page 1 2 )
imsofaman 25 3056 10-25-2007 02:29 AM
imsofaman
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

I've been there and know first hand how frustrating it can be. I'm am only too glad to help.

To reverse pitch movement simply assign an opposite +/- value to the corresponding swash mix for Pit. Same applies for aileron and elevator. The numerical value sets the range of motion. Set Pit to give you 10 deg at max and minimum in idle up.Disconnect motors or switch on throttle hold when doing this!.
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-19-2007 12:19 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Sticky Pots on a CX2?
Dave Baron 1 815 10-19-2007 12:19 PM
Gino CP
Gino CP

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Philippines

The old Blade Cp tx's pots were also erratic over time. I suspect the pots used in the Blade CX2's tx are the very same cheap pots. Sadly I have not found compatible replacement pots for this. Off the shelf pots change the tx's response.

I think that the pot arms scrape the resistive substrate. These scrapings accumulate and result in erratic response. Cleaning the pots with contact cleaner offers no long term solution. The pots just get worse over time.
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-19-2007 07:44 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Converting Blade CP to Spektrum? 📷 ( page 1 2 )
imsofaman 25 3056 10-25-2007 02:29 AM
imsofaman
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

That's barely the surface. First you bind the tx to the rx. See the user's manual for this. Hook front servo Elev on rx, left rear servo to Aile, and right rear to Aux1. You align the servo arms at 90 deg later in midstick. But only after setting throttle hold and setting your throttle and pitch curves! Plug the main motor servo lead to Thro and the Rudder lead to Rudd. Then you have to program the tx for correct servo direction through the servo reversing menu.

Here is a setup sheet. Don't take the numbers as absolute. Neither should you follow the servo reversing and positive/negative values to the letter. The throttle curves may need to be different on yours. Your heli may be different so see what works. Use the setup sheet to understand what is happening and tune to your liking.

-------------------------------------------------------

Model Select Menu Settings:

[SWASH TYPE]

3 SERVOS

120 DEGREES

[INPUT SELECT]

AUX2 GEAR
INH INH

-------------------------------------------------------

Programming Settings:

[THRO HOLD]
>HOLD POS. -5.0%
SW:RUDD D/R

[SWASH MIX]
3 SERVOS
AILE +63%º
120 º ELEV +60%
PIT +30%

EXP ACT

* Note : use -/+ to reverse swash movement. You heli may be different.

[TRAVEL ADJUST]
THRO
H 83%
L 59%
The rest are 100%

* Note: Adjust H high enough just to turn 4-in-1/3-in-1’s esc turn red (max) on max throttle. Adjust L as low as you can get but 4-in-1 still arms. The setting shown
is for a Phoenix 25.

[SUB TRIM]

All 0

[REVERSING SWITCH]

1 N, 2R, 3R, 4R, 5N, 6N, 7N

*If your movements or actions are reversed, switch over to correct.

[AUTO D/R EXP]
All INH

[D/R 7 EXP]
RUDD
EXP LIN
D/R 100%

ELEV
EXP +3%
D/R 100%

Fly with Expo switch On

AILE
EXP +3%
D/R 100%

Fly with expo switch On

[TIMER]

DOWN-T
8:00

*Note: Input your safe flying time based on lipo condition. No cell dropping below 3 volts each.

[PROG MIX3]
INH

[PROG MIX2]
INH

[PROG MIX1]
INH

[REVO MIX]

All 0%

[PITCH CURVE]
HOLD
0 INH 50 INH 100

ST-2
0 INH 50 INH 100

ST-1
O INH 50 INH 100

NORM
50 INH 50 INH 100

[THRO CURVE]
ST-2
100 INH 80 INH 100
EXP OFF

* Note : Increase or decrease “80” so that you get a smooth transition from Stunt 2 with an ioncrease in head speed.

ST-1
100 INH 60 INH 100
EXP OFF

* Note: Increase or decrease “60” so that you get a smooth transition from Normal mode to Stunt 1 with an increase in head speed.

NORM
0 INH 50 75 100
EXP OFF

* Note: Adjust curves so in Normal mode, you hover at 60-75% throttle

After your final settings, bind the tx and rx again.
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-16-2007 04:35 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Brushless motor life
Altrex 12 640 10-20-2007 04:42 AM
tutelar-rc
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

Use at least 12C packs for more oomph. And use Dean's connectors.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-15-2007 10:19 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Heading Hold Gyro
CLSSY56 2 697 10-15-2007 06:07 PM
tutelar-rc
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

Yes. G90 or Telebee are good.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-14-2007 02:22 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Is a Blade Cp Pro for me?
azboostin 8 612 10-15-2007 01:39 PM
Altrex
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

Get the best heli you can afford to destroy. It will be easier to fly.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-09-2007 04:06 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Servo help
CLSSY56 3 501 10-09-2007 05:40 PM
CLSSY56
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

What do you mean by "centralizer" hehe. If you mean the pot, they are usually just snapped in place. They are kept in place by being in between the top case and the middle case. And of course gears in between.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-09-2007 07:15 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
changed servos to hs 55's and now i have negative pitch 📷
Murdock 18 962 11-08-2007 06:51 PM
CompuFoil
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

Looks like you can just drill mounting holes on the other side and use a bit longer self tapping screws.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-09-2007 04:02 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
changed servos to hs 55's and now i have negative pitch 📷
Murdock 18 962 11-08-2007 06:51 PM
CompuFoil
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

I just started with 7mm plastic block. Then I carved it out so it fit perfectly on the other side.

I have not worked on King 2. But if it is anything like a Honeybee CP2, you can mount the servo mounts on the other side and move the servo there.

The entire concept of this workaround it to move the servo arm to the other side. this gives opposite movement. The rx cable swap does this on the signal end. The elevator servo had to be done manually.

Post a clear pic of your airframe and let's see what can be done.
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-06-2007 09:23 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
'If you can fly that, you can fly anything!' 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
BOB WHO? 105 8023 12-09-2007 10:21 PM
luger
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

The secret is to buy the best helicopter you can afford to destroy.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-04-2007 04:13 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
DX7 - Which Receiver and best place to mount it?? CP-Pro 📷
keeter 14 907 10-11-2007 03:35 PM
tutelar-rc
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-04-2007 03:09 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
DX7 - Which Receiver and best place to mount it?? CP-Pro 📷
keeter 14 907 10-11-2007 03:35 PM
tutelar-rc
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

I remember some people putting the AR6100 inside the stock receiver housing for a stock look and protection.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

10-03-2007 06:15 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
DX7 - Which Receiver and best place to mount it?? CP-Pro 📷
keeter 14 907 10-11-2007 03:35 PM
tutelar-rc
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

AR6100. Stick it to the 3-in-1 and mount on the stock location up front.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

09-27-2007 03:43 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
How to check for a bent spindle 📷
tutelar-rc 10 5261 10-03-2007 03:51 AM
Tioli
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

DIY shaft and spindle repair:

http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l...Shaft%20repair/
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

09-23-2007 12:52 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade - Blade 400
3D RTF Electric Mini Heli 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
Wolfpackin
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

On paper, I can't see anything matching it. Let's hope it lives up to expectation.

Who says you can't fly a 400/450 in your backyard?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv4Usz59ml4
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

09-23-2007 12:07 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade - Blade 400
3D RTF Electric Mini Heli 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
Wolfpackin
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

It comes with a lipo charger.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

09-21-2007 12:32 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Servos for Blade CP-Pro
TERollins 3 850 09-22-2007 01:16 AM
TERollins
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

EFlite or ESky servos are fine. HS-55s are reverse servos. You will need to do mods to use these with a stock tx. You cannot reverse collective and throttle independently.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

09-21-2007 05:58 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Park 370 5400kv
jmc67 9 857 09-21-2007 05:58 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

I'd follow the manufacturer's specifications. You are using that motor for the wrong application.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

09-17-2007 11:02 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
A few questions about the DX7 and the Blade CP Pro
Gregor99 8 646 09-18-2007 10:53 PM
Helinorth
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

1) The Blade will have a cleaner install with an AR6100. But the heli can carry an AR7000 p;ush comes to shove.

2) The 3-in-1 can plug right into the Thro and Rudd channels on the AR rx. The stock servos are analog.

3) The Blade Cpp is a totally new heli with a DX7. How you program it dictates if it becomes better or worse.
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

09-17-2007 05:13 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Crashed CP pro
helo925 5 690 09-17-2007 05:13 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

Unless there is a committed dad or uncle to support,watch over,and pay for the hobby, I wouldn't give a heli to a kid. It is not a one time purchase. It can be a very dangerous machine.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

09-10-2007 07:12 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
micro-heli cnc head ?
BLADE PRO 8 1015 09-11-2007 03:30 PM
teknology
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

The blades track poorly because of its quality or lack thereof. Put a set of Compy 300 or Freestyle-Hobby main blades. They track true. They are also very tough and survive most blade scrapes.

http://www.heli-fever.com for Compys
http://www.freestyle-hobby.com for Freestyle
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

09-09-2007 10:30 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Anyone have any tips for nose in hover ? ( page 1 2 )
rudderman 26 1909 09-27-2007 12:08 AM
shanee86
Gino CP

rrKey Veteran

Philippines

You really shouldn't be "thinking" about your move. In certain situations, you will not have time to "think". Just keep practicing until it becomes automatic. Muscle memory. It has to be muscle memory.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

09-09-2007 03:38 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Anyone have any tips for nose in hover ? ( page 1 2 )
rudderman 26 1909 09-27-2007 12:08 AM
shanee86
Gino CP

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Philippines

Don't just turn the heli in flight. Put the trainers back on and start learning from the ground. It is Radds all over again. Dedicate whole packs and whole sessions to the exercise. Occasionally squeeze in some tail in flights so as not to mess up that skill.

This seems harder but it will be quicker. It covers all the fundamentals.
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09-07-2007 09:06 AM  12 years ago
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BLADE - Important - Instructional - Interesting ( page 1 2 )
Mark Ryder 26 41640 09-07-2007 09:06 AM
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Yes you adjust those long pitch links from swash to mixer arms. Also check your spindle and flybar if you have vibrations.

Best thing you can do for your CP2 is to put a set of Compy300 main blades or Freestyle Hobby main blades. They track true. They are also a lot tougher.
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09-01-2007 04:08 AM  12 years ago
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General Question about cyclic on Blade CP + possible tips?
nautskye 10 551 09-01-2007 12:16 PM
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08-31-2007 04:53 AM  12 years ago
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basic improvements
jimdanforth 12 684 08-31-2007 04:53 AM
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You need the Pro's Bell-Hiller head to get good cyclic going for loops and rolls. Look at the EFlite Bell-Hiller upgrades.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-27-2007 06:24 AM  12 years ago
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My story is a sad "tail"
Inghamb 7 730 08-29-2007 02:24 AM
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Sounds like a broken 4-in-1.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-24-2007 08:47 AM  12 years ago
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Help again please!!!!!
rudderman 5 475 08-25-2007 03:59 AM
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When you do get the tail armed, test the tail boom by hand if it applies thrust to counteract moving the tail to the right (heli turning counterclockwise). If not, flip the gyro reverse switch if it has one. If not reposition the gyro.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-19-2007 07:07 AM  12 years ago
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Having problems with a Blade CP
Blade2 2 635 08-19-2007 07:07 AM
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The BCP has a linear pitch curve for normal and idle up. In normal, that will start with 0 pitch and max out at 10 deg. In idle up, that is -10 deg to +10 deg. 0 deg at midstick.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-18-2007 03:29 PM  12 years ago
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Another route besides 3in1 ?
rudderman 9 642 08-18-2007 05:27 PM
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The ICS50 J is best used for the tail. Look for something beefier for the main motor. Perhaps the ICS100.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-18-2007 09:30 AM  12 years ago
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Another route besides 3in1 ?
rudderman 9 642 08-18-2007 05:27 PM
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You will still need a separate esc for the main motor and a gyro. The ICS50 J cannot be connected to the 3-in-1's gyro. You will have to go full separates. There are some capable GWS brushed escs for the stock main motor. Yo can get a Telebee or ESky hh gyro.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-18-2007 02:51 AM  12 years ago
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Eflite electronic parts are junk
Mashiur Rahman 10 695 08-18-2007 06:20 AM
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Guys, let it go. The poster is just venting his frustrations. We all have such days.

I also understand that pro Trex sentiments are not taken fondly in these corners but again, they are just sharing their good experiences with it.
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08-17-2007 07:10 AM  12 years ago
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Eflite electronic parts are junk
Mashiur Rahman 10 695 08-18-2007 06:20 AM
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I changed to brushless because of broken 4-in-1s. Any radio in a budget RTF will be junk as you put it. You get what you pay for.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-16-2007 06:49 AM  12 years ago
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CP Pro Frame Replacement 📷
DJN 4 964 08-16-2007 06:49 AM
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08-16-2007 01:10 AM  12 years ago
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CP Pro Frame Replacement 📷
DJN 4 964 08-16-2007 06:49 AM
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You can buy just the battery plate, boom clamp, nylon skids of the Freestyle Belt Mod for the CP Pro. This makes the frames stiffer protecting the gear as well. Ask the owner for the new design skids that we talked about. You can have teh plate in CF or fiberglass.

http://www.freestyle-hobby.com
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08-15-2007 04:40 AM  12 years ago
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servo replacement for BCPP
tryan02 9 601 08-15-2007 04:40 AM
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Get Esky 8g servos (for Honeybee CP2). They are as good as EFlite ones and drop right in.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-15-2007 01:31 AM  12 years ago
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servo replacement for BCPP
tryan02 9 601 08-15-2007 04:40 AM
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If you are using stock tx, some after market servos like HItechs will be turning the other way. You cannot simply use servo reverse switches because throttle and colelctive cannot be reversed independently.

Esky servos turn the same way.
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08-14-2007 01:47 AM  12 years ago
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Anyone installed 6 channel 2.4 ghz radio with BCPP?
Mashiur Rahman 10 669 08-14-2007 01:47 AM
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Get your DX7 then open a new discussion or pm me. I have already prepared one for belt tail 120 deg swash helis. For a Trex actually. Most of it applies to a Blade CP/P. Probably except the gyro settings part. The procedure will differ depending on your final setup.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-14-2007 01:33 AM  12 years ago
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Specktrum 7 and Blade cp with 4-1Controller
AirJet 1 587 08-14-2007 01:33 AM
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You have two options. One is to hack the 4-in-1 so that you separate the 3-in-1 pcb and hardwire servo cable to it for throttle and rudder.

The second option is that you buy a separate 3-in-1. These readily plug into any receiver.

In both cases, you plug the 3-in-1 into the Spektrum receiver's Thro and Rudd channels. Left rear servo plugs into the AILE ch, right rear servo plugs into the AUX1 ch, and the front servo plugs into the ELEV ch.
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08-11-2007 01:48 AM  12 years ago
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servo/electronics question
fenderstrat 10 541 08-11-2007 01:51 AM
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What rx and esc are you using? In all likelihood you are getting low rx voltage. Get a bec.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-10-2007 10:15 AM  12 years ago
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Installing a JR radio in my Blade CP
tamuco 4 546 08-10-2007 03:11 PM
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Your radio must have 120 deg swash mix. You can solder servo cables to the esc/gyro side of the 4-in-1 and use your own receiver. Alternatively, you can order a 3-in-1 and plug that into your receiver. Or you can go full separates.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-10-2007 05:18 AM  12 years ago
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help with blade tightening
rudderman 2 400 08-10-2007 05:25 AM
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You can make shims or discs from plastic. Put one over and under the main blades. Compy300 main blades come with shims for this purpose.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-10-2007 04:45 AM  12 years ago
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Anyone installed 6 channel 2.4 ghz radio with BCPP?
Mashiur Rahman 10 669 08-14-2007 01:47 AM
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Pic of what? I have a DX7 and a brushless belt tail micro. Settings will be different.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-10-2007 04:10 AM  12 years ago
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Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
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A few guys at my flying field are interested in just the DX6i and AR6100e. So in case somebody doesn't care for them PM me.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-10-2007 04:02 AM  12 years ago
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Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
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Are you getting one?Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-10-2007 03:32 AM  12 years ago
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I got my Trex ( page 1 2 3 )
studmanbri 50 1994 08-16-2007 12:55 AM
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I love my CopterX. Set that oven for 350 deg.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-09-2007 02:38 PM  12 years ago
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Anyone installed 6 channel 2.4 ghz radio with BCPP?
Mashiur Rahman 10 669 08-14-2007 01:47 AM
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Spektrum DX6 CP Pro setup direct from the manufacturer

First off you need the Spektrum DX6 radio system or if you already have one for other e-helis and e-planes you need to purchase an additional AR6000 Spektrum park flyer receiver. Next we need to remove the existing receiver from the new E-Flight BCPP heli. You will see the BCPP’s receiver is in its own plastic case and separate from the 3in1 unit. It is double side taped to the BCPP’s new and improved 3in1 unit. Unwrap the white receiver antenna wire from the landing skid and unplug the servo wires from the receiver. Notice that 2 of the wires are marked. One is the rudder channel lead and the other is the throttle channel lead. These 2 wires come from the new 3in1 unit and are marked with white tags so these will be easy to identify. The 3 servo wire leads are not tagged. That’s ok since we will trace them out and identify them here. You may wish to mark these wires with a small piece of tape. Looking from the front of the heli I name the servos as follows: FRONT; LEFT REAR; RIGHT REAR. These are the CCPM servos that control the helis swashplate movements. Later when we mount the Spektrum AR6000 receiver we will plug these 3 servo leads into their corresponding channels. Next gently pry the receiver from the 3in1 unit. You may need to use a small metal screwdriver. Then remove any residue tape from the 3in1 unit. The new AR6000 receiver will be taped right to the 3in1 unit. Make sure when you mount the receiver that you test fit the canopy to assure it will fit back on. And check the routing of the 2 AR6000 antennas so they do not touch the maingear or are subject to chafing. There is plenty of room for this tiny receiver under the canopy. If you mount the AR6000 receiver as shown in the pics in this article all will fit nicely.

To attach the AR6000 to the 3in1 unit I used a piece of the small double sided sticky tape included in the BCPP kit. You get a few spare pieces in the kit and one piece of this tape works nicely for mounting. Looking at the face of the AR6000 receiver I position it with the writing right side up as it mates and gets taped to the 3in1 unit. Next plug the 3 servo leads and 2 wires from the 3in1 into the AR6000. Rudder lead from the 3in1 plugs into the channel marked RUD, throttle lead from 3in1 plugs into channel marked THR. Next locate the servo wire from the FRONT servo and plug that into the channel marked ELE. The LEFT REAR servo wire connects to the channel marked AUX and the RIGHT REAR servo wire connects to the channel marked AILE. Route the servo wires so they do not get chafed by the turning maingear. You will note they can be run the same way they were when the stock E-Flite receiver was onboard. Keep them away from touching the main motor since that can get warm in flight. ALSO make sure when you plug in these 5 wires that the ORANGE lead is on the TOP as you look at each plug. This assumes that you have the AR6000 mounted with the words on it right side up as mentioned in this article. Double check that the ORANGE wire in each plug, the SIGNAL wire, matches the small decal on the AR6000 receiver. This decal notes the correct orientation for how the wires plug into this receiver.

For these next steps it is a good idea to NOT plug in the LI-PO battery to the BCPP’s 3in1 unit. Wait until you have the DX6 transmitter set up and programmed for heli usage and have all the values from this article inputted into the transmitter. Be patient, later in this article we will boot up the system.

Next locate a model memory that is not being used by another model in your DX6 transmitter. Consult the DX6 manual for the procedure on how to change the model memory to a blank one. Note by performing this procedure incorrectly you may accidentally erase the current model memory that you have set up for another model. Be careful to understand how to change the model memory before completing this procedure. You may wish to consult page 70 of the DX6 manual for more info. Once that is done we need to change the aircraft type to HELI “HE” see page 66 in the manual. The DX6 defaults the model memory to the PLANE “AC” model type. When you have set up a new model memory and have changed the model type to heli you are ready to program the transmitter for the BCPP heli with the values listed in this article. Note you can also NAME this new model memory too as outlined on page 71 in the DX6 manual. I chose PRO for this conversion model name but you can use any 3 digits or letters for the name.

The Blade CP and Blade CP Pro utilize 120 CCPM mixing. We need to activate the CCPM programming in the DX6 transmitter. Since this setting is model specific it will only be active in this particular model and it will not affect other helis that do not use CCPM for cyclic and collective pitch controls that you may have already set up in your DX6 transmitter.

To activate the CCPM programming you may wish to consult page 88 in the DX6 manual. Once you activate the CCPM programming you can press both orange buttons upwards and that will get you out of the programming. The DX6’s battery voltage should be displayed as well as the 3-digit model name when you are not in the programming mode. And don’t worry if you accidentally scrolled past the “CCP” menu the first time you look for it you can continue to press the left orange button upwards until the programming menu re-appears. The DX6 uses a LOOP system for the programming menus and parameters. If you pass by any menu continue to press the left orange button upwards until the menu is displayed again. I’ve done it hundreds of times myself!!!

Next we will input a program that will fly the BCPP with the DX6 system. Note all of this should be done with the BCPP still OFF with no power going to the 3in1 unit for safety.

THR – Norm

AIL – Rev

ELE – Rev

RUD- Rev

GER – Norm

PIT – Norm

D/R - Dual Rates

AIO - 75%

AI1 - 100%

ELO - 75%

EL1 - 100%

EXP – Exponential

AIO – 6%

AI1 – 6%

ELO – 6%

EL1 – 6%

Sub-Trim – Will vary and will be set once the heli is powered up to center the 3 CCPM servos. This will be mentioned later in the article.

TRV ADJ

RUD – 80% in both directions

THR (-110%) at bottom stick and (+70%) at full throttle stick

All other channels should be 100% in both directions. Note default is 100% for each channel so the other channels should be at 100% at this point.

HLD – Activate Throttle Hold – See page 77 in DX6 manual.

Set 0% as value this will shut off throttle when this switch is activated.

PLN – 0% - Default Setting

P2N – 50% - Default Setting

PHN – 100% - Default Setting

PLS - 0% - Default Setting

P2S – 50% - Default Setting

PHS – 100% - Default Setting

PLH – 0% - Default Setting

P2H – 50% - Default Setting

PHH – 100% - Default Setting

TLN – 0% - Default Setting

T2N – 70%

THN – 100% - Default Setting

TLS – 0% - Default Setting

T2S – 70%

MIX RVU – Default Setting

0%

MIX RVD – Default Setting

0%

MIX A11 – Mix is OFF – Default Setting

MIX CP2

+70%

MIX CP3

+66%

MIX CP6

+50%

MIX CCP – ON – This is the 120 CCPM MIX found on page 88 in the DX6 manual.

Now with this program in the DX6 transmitter we can power up the BCPP. I recommend that both the main motor power wire and the tailrotor power wire be unplugged from the 3in1 unit for safety. These wires are located on the RIGHT side of the 3in1 unit where the BCPP’s LI-PO battery connects for main power. The plug port on top of the 3in1 is the tailrotor power wire and bottom plug port is for the main motor power wire. Note page 20 in the E-Flite BCPP manual for reference as to how these 2 plugs connect to the 3in1 if you loose track of their orientation and location.

Next up we need to BIND the AR6000 receiver to the DX6 transmitter. Note this is only required once and if you purchased a NEW Spektrum receiver for this article. Binding is explained on page 60 of the DX6 manual. If your using the AR6000 receiver that came with your DX6 radio system this is already done and you can skip the BINDING procedure outlined here.

For BINDING the receiver in the BCPP heli you may follow these easy instructions or consult page 60 in the DX6 manual as well. First connect the BIND connector plug with the orange tag that came with your radio system or that was included with the AR6000 receiver to the BATTERY pins. Next connect the BCPP LI-PO battery to the 3in1’s main power input lead. You will note that the LED on the AR6000 receiver will begin to flash. Next make sure your DX6 transmitter has the throttle stick at full down position and press and hold in the clear button on the back of your transmitter while you turn the DX6 transmitter power switch on. Release the button on the back of the transmitter once you see the LED inside the clear transmitter button begin to flash. Leave the system alone with NO transmitter stick movements and in 6 to 8 seconds the LED on the receiver should stop flashing and turn solid. You may notice at this point that the servos move a little too. This is normal since at this time your receiver is bound with your DX6 transmitter and the programming that you inputted per this article will now take control over the servos. Next disconnect the LI-PO battery from the 3in1 unit and remove the BIND connector plug from the BATTERY pins on the receiver. You can now turn your DX6 off too.

At this point we will look at the set up of the BCPP to make sure no over driving or stalling occurs on the servos when the DX6 transmitter sticks are moved to full positions. Again it is a good idea to NOT have the main motor or tailrotor motor power leads connected to the 3in1 unit since we will be moving the sticks on the DX6 to different positions to check servo movements and end point throws.

Turn on the DX6 with the throttle stick at full down position and plug in the BCPP LI-PO battery pack into the 3in1’s main power input lead. In a few seconds the servos should move a small amount as you notice the LED on the AR6000 light up solid.

This means the AR6000 receiver has locked onto your DX6 transmitter. Once the system arms we can move the throttle stick to center position. With the main motor and t/r motor wires disconnected the helis motors should NOT be moving. Only the servos will move as we move the transmitter sticks. At center throttle stick you should see the servo horns at center position with the servo horns pointing outwards at 90 degrees from the side of each servo. If this is not the case sub trim the 3 CCPM servos to correct this. Please consult page 75 in the DX6 manual for sub trim usage. Basically we want to get the servo horns close to center by using the sub trim values while the throttle stick is at the center position. Note each servo may need different amounts of sub trim values and some may not require any value at all. Once you have the servos adjusted with the horns close to 90 degrees, close counts, with the throttle stick still at center move the right transmitter stick to its full forward and backward position. You should not hear any binding at these full throw positions. Leaving the throttle stick at center return the right stick to center and move the right stick to its full left and right positions. Again you should not hear any binding as well as the right stick is moved to its full throws. Next return the right stick to center and move the throttle stick to its full up position. You should not hear any servo binding as the collective is increased to full. Then move the throttle stick to its full bottom negative stick position too. If you notice any binding during any of these full throw tests you can go into the CCPM programming mode and reduce the values approx 4 to 8 units or so. Consult page 89 in the DX6 manual for more information on this procedure. As a quick reference for FORWARD/AFT cyclic binding, that is right stick forward and backward movements; the parameter to adjust is CP3. CP2 is for the RIGHT/LEFT cyclic movement. And collective is adjusted in the CP6 parameter. Note the values for these parameters do not have to match and be the same. As a personal note I find the collective – CP6 usually lower than the other 2 CCPM settings mentioned here. AND CP2 is usually a little higher than CP3. You may find after flying the BCPP with the DX6 that you want to decrease the values of CP2 and CP3 to lessen the response. OR you may want to increase the values for CP2 and CP3 for more response as long as you do not hear any binding per this described testing. The numbers given in this article should be very close and should get the heli airborne and flying very well. You can tune as you prefer.

Next disconnect the LI-PO battery from 3in1 unit and turn off the DX6 transmitter. You can now plug in the main motor wire and t/r motor wire to the 3in1 unit. Please refer to page 20 in the E-Flight BCPP manual if you need assistance. Turn the DX6 back on and plug in the LI-PO battery. Make sure the throttle stick is at full down on the DX6. As with the stock BCPP transmitter do not move the heli while the LED on the 3in1 unit is flashing. At this time the gyro is calibrating for center and the throttle will arm shortly there after. Now you are all set to try that first test hover. As with any modification; upgrade or rebuilt heli always take care in trying your first hover attempts and flying. With this modification the BCPP may feel different since we now have a new transmitter and radio system controlling the heli. Note if your BCPP hovered and flew with good mainrotor tracking before this modification that should not change and all should be the same. If you have not flown your BCPP and did this modification first you may have to track the mainrotor blades. Depending on each BCPP’s set up you may have to adjust the POT on the 3in1 unit for tailrotor trimming. And you may want to adjust the POT for gyro gain on the 3in1 too. This is the same procedure as with the stock E-Flight transmitter and it is outlined in the BCPP manual. In my experience if the heli flew fine before this DX6 radio system transplant it will fly the same but have better control. And of course you now have full heli programming options too.

In closing please note in this article that we have set the stunt mode or “Idle Up” as referred to by heli guys to match the normal throttle mode. This is incase a newbie accidentally bumps this switch. As you progress you may wish to set the idle up to a high throttle level for aerobatics. Personally I set Idle Up to 100% throttle. If the Idle Up throttle value is set to a high value do not flip this switch from a dead stop or gear damage may result. Raise the throttle stick in normal mode until everything is running smoothly then flip the Idle Up switch. To avoid 3in1 arming issues make sure the switch to activate the DX6 stunt mode/Idle Up is off. The switch position should be in the AWAY position as you look at the DX6 transmitter to turn OFF this stunt mode.

That’s it, now your BCPP has been SPEKTRUMIZED!!! No need to worry about frequency pin issues or else at your favorite indoor or outdoor flying fields. And your BCPP is fully tunable with REAL heli programming parameters. Have fun and remember to fly responsibly and safely! - GMRO
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08-09-2007 12:51 PM  12 years ago
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Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
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The best product for a manufacturer is one that sells and one that is consumed. The Blade CP/P excels in both. It is a marketing success and is probably responsible for launching the micro craze. On a marketing standpoint, there is absolutely nothing they should change.

The mini heli is a niche HH has not filled and it only makes sense to come out with a mini heli. And going by their successful rtf formula, they have come up with an excellent package. You will be hard pressed to find a package out there that matches the HH goods. I hope the heli lives up to expectations. can't wait for the reviews.
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08-09-2007 11:31 AM  12 years ago
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i did my first real flight!!
cplearner 10 611 08-09-2007 11:31 AM
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Many people rush into inverted without preparing for it. Master the flyout at high altitude. It prepares you for the safe height needed to flip. Remember that with these helis, you are not sure it will be oriented the way you want to inverted. You must be prepared for whatever position that may take. 20 meters is not even close to being safe first time around. Prepare for it.

There are so much more to learn in upright flight. And they are not easy. Upright flight is not just about hovering in all orientations. You can clean up forward and backwards flights. Do big graceful circuits. So much more that are impressive.
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08-09-2007 09:55 AM  12 years ago
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Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
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Looks like this forum is alive!Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-09-2007 05:42 AM  12 years ago
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Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
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I was going over the price list, very competitive.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-09-2007 03:07 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade - Blade 400
3D RTF Electric Mini Heli 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
Wolfpackin
Gino CP

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Philippines

What level are you talking about. The 400 will be easier to fly. You can easily rack up $500 with a micro over time.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-09-2007 02:16 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade - Blade 400
3D RTF Electric Mini Heli 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
Wolfpackin
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Philippines

It makes more sense marketing wise. Now they have a distinct package. Only they have that d_mn gorgeous tx and the distinct Blade look. Might be a little late in the game, but at least they did it.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-09-2007 12:43 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade - Blade 400
3D RTF Electric Mini Heli 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
Wolfpackin
Gino CP

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Philippines

Yes the micro format still has a unique place. To mod the Blade CP/P you've got to love the format. Otherwise, get a mini for the flight characteristics you want. It makes more sense. Now, with the Blade 400, it even makes more sense to move up.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-09-2007 12:19 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade - Blade 400
3D RTF Electric Mini Heli 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Locktite 761 69254 03-25-2008 05:25 AM
Wolfpackin
Gino CP

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Philippines

Interesting package. Handsome radio. Just curious why not a 450. I am assuming they are badged on blade size. Good call on the metal swash and digital servos. As usual on looks alone, it looks very marketable and would certainly attract current EFlite users.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-08-2007 05:28 AM  12 years ago
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G90 Gyro
kramerr 4 615 08-09-2007 11:30 AM
itsjojo
Gino CP

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Philippines

You can get the same performance from a Telebee.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-08-2007 02:10 AM  12 years ago
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Selling Blade CP All Brushless + HH Gyro
rilopez825 2 702 08-08-2007 02:40 AM
Vendetta
Gino CP

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Philippines

It's hoping to get sold Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-08-2007 02:09 AM  12 years ago
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can anyone help me with brushless link? 📷
rudderman 19 784 08-08-2007 02:09 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

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Philippines

Backwards flying is no different from flying forward. You just need to spend time learning it.It will probably take just as long. Of course it requires that you are proficient with all orientations. Slow piro is a good trainer.

I'm not sure about slow. I have not done piro flips yet. But it does hold its own when flipping over. Tail is quick. Piro rates can be insane. Heavy yes. But if you see my heli fly out, it is not an issue.

Hacked means hardwiring the electrical connections to a standard 4-in-1 . This is sourcing an rx throttle signal by connecting the esc servo signal and ground wires. The red wire is not connected since we want the 4-in-1 to supply rx voltage via its bec (battery eleminator circuit).

Hacked is a term used when components don't just plug and play.
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-07-2007 06:59 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Elec-Helicopters - E-Sky
E-Sky Honey Bee CP2 same as blade cp/ pro?
SuperCobra 4 859 08-07-2007 09:17 PM
SuperCobra
Gino CP

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Philippines

You need a tail esc for the gyro. A GWS ICS50 J is fine. Other than that, you can move your Blade elcectronics over to the Honeybee CP2. However, you will need ESky motors since the main motor and tail motor pinions aren't exact matches to Eflite main and tail gears.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-07-2007 02:24 AM  12 years ago
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Wow... this area is dead... 📷 ( page 1 2 )
R0XoRiZoR 38 1228 08-07-2007 09:59 PM
tryan02
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Philippines

Never say never until you try it. I too said I'll be a backyard flyer. When I started flying the micro at the field, I knew how much more the skies had to offer. It is so much safer with much more room. I found my backyard skills improving as I transitioned from field to backyard.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-07-2007 12:57 AM  12 years ago
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Wow... this area is dead... 📷 ( page 1 2 )
R0XoRiZoR 38 1228 08-07-2007 09:59 PM
tryan02
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Philippines

I understand. However, in principle, it is still "get a better heli" statement. That is no different from get a TRex. Perhaps it is not received with much resentment because, the King 2 is more feasible. The Trex line sounds condescending because the setup is more expensive.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-07-2007 12:34 AM  12 years ago
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Wow... this area is dead... 📷 ( page 1 2 )
R0XoRiZoR 38 1228 08-07-2007 09:59 PM
tryan02
Gino CP

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Philippines

Interesting. But now, it's get a King 2. I've always wondered what King 2 threads are doing in a Blade CP/CX forum.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-06-2007 11:55 PM  12 years ago
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Wow... this area is dead... 📷 ( page 1 2 )
R0XoRiZoR 38 1228 08-07-2007 09:59 PM
tryan02
Gino CP

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Philippines

I've had my micro for a little under a year. It has morphed into every possible tail variant. In the end I got it to fly the way I hoped it would be. A belt tail, a nice tail servo, and a good gyro. Needless to say I have pumped more than $1000 into mistakes, accidents, and upgrades.

Then it took one flight on my CopterX mini heli to put the micro in its place. The belt micro was nowhere near the handling of my mini.

I understand the resentment with the "oh no, there goes the TRex" line but really, until you own one, you will always be bothered with that statement.

I have no regrets spending on my micro. I learned a lot along the way and I fly a lot better. I consider that tuition fee. But will I go the same path if I were to do it all over again? No. I'd keep the cheap heli cheap then buy a great one as soon as my skills are limited by the cheap heli.
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-06-2007 03:28 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
can anyone help me with brushless link? 📷
rudderman 19 784 08-08-2007 02:09 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

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Philippines

My setup:

Spektrum AR6100 rx
11.1v 1000mah 12c lipo
ParkBEC 5v
Phoenix 25 brushless esc
Elf Hobby 4200KV brushless motor
J-Team 9T steel pinion
Freestyle Belt Mod (http://www.freestyle-hobby.com)
Hitec HS-50 tail servo

More cost effective setup:

Or just ditch the Blade and buy a Honeybee King 2, DX7, and brushless separates.

Mid level setup:

ARC 20-34-110 with HPI RS4 10T pinion
Phoenix 10 esc
G90 hh gyro
GWS ICS50-J tail esc
GWS EDP-50XC dd tail
CN-12 heatsink
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-06-2007 03:00 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
can anyone help me with brushless link? 📷
rudderman 19 784 08-08-2007 02:09 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

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Philippines

Rudderman, how far are you willing to go? What are you after, powerful punches or reliability for sport flying? There is a trade-off for each setup. A 3D machine would need a stronger tail with a strong motor.

If you are into basic hovering and forward flight, I recommend:

Hacked Phoenix 10 esc, ARC 20-34-110 motor with 10T, G90, stock or dual motor tail.

Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-06-2007 02:55 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
can anyone help me with brushless link? 📷
rudderman 19 784 08-08-2007 02:09 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

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Philippines

The CopterX is a TRex clone. It flies nowhere near a Blade. My belt modded Honeybee CP2 is the best a micro could be. Tail is very solid and precise. Heli is relatively twitchier but still very tame when I dialled in expos.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-06-2007 02:35 AM  12 years ago
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can anyone help me with brushless link? 📷
rudderman 19 784 08-08-2007 02:09 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

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Philippines

That's a funnel. I did slow ones in that video because of limited space. Out in the field, those get steep and fast. The backward circles become hurricanes.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-06-2007 02:17 AM  12 years ago
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Closed ••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
HBK2 new thread with set ups ( page 1 2 )
fenderstrat 22 1006 08-07-2007 08:36 PM
fenderstrat
Gino CP

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Philippines

Does the King 2 handle more like a micro or a mini?Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-06-2007 01:43 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
can anyone help me with brushless link? 📷
rudderman 19 784 08-08-2007 02:09 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

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Philippines

Yup been busy learning inverted. I also have a new toy, a CopterX mini heli.

Pics:

http://s97.photobucket.com/albums/l...sional%20Setup/

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeilGONgeEE
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-06-2007 01:10 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
can anyone help me with brushless link? 📷
rudderman 19 784 08-08-2007 02:09 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

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Philippines

Mild setup that will work with stock tail:

ARC 20-34-110 brushless motor (http://www.lightflightrc.com)
9-10T HPI RS4 steel pinion (http://www.lightflightrc.com)
Phoenix 10 esc (http://www.lightflightrc.com)

3D setup:

EFlite Park 370 4100kv brushless motor (http://www.horizonhobby.com)
9-11T pinion
EFlite G90 HH Gyro
GWS ICS50-J tail speed controller
GWS EDP-50XC (dd motor and prop)
CN-12 heatsink
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

08-02-2007 06:05 AM  12 years ago
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i did my first real flight!!
cplearner 10 611 08-09-2007 11:31 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

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Philippines

Nothing like the first time. You must be elated. Now you too are hooked on heli crack.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

07-31-2007 05:58 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
burn't 3 in 1? need help please 📷
kaz172 15 573 08-01-2007 01:39 AM
tryan02
Gino CP

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Philippines

To enjoy your hobby shop's Blade parts, you can get the Freestyle Belt Mod for the CP Pro. $120 for the all carbon option. The only thing that breaks in this tail is the boom. It uses 9mm arrow shafts so that will be easy to source. http://www.freestyle-hobby.com.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

07-31-2007 12:34 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Which gyro is better? esky or g90? 📷
rudderman 8 1041 09-01-2007 05:07 PM
dignlivn
Gino CP

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Philippines

For a lot less and pretty much the same performance as a G90. Go for Telebee 6g hh gyro. The ESky HH gyro is also good. But make the label face the tail or the sides and not looking up. Same with the Telebee.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

07-30-2007 12:38 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
servo/electronics question
fenderstrat 10 541 08-11-2007 01:51 AM
epoweredrc
Gino CP

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Philippines

When I am around great guys I learn a lot too. I learn that I have lots to learn.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

07-27-2007 01:28 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
GWS DD Tail Motor question 📷
jeremys 8 547 07-28-2007 03:53 AM
jeremys
Gino CP

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Philippines

If you dont mess with the screw holes, the stock motor should still line up.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

07-24-2007 04:04 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
who has a gws tail motor for sale ???
rudderman 9 612 07-24-2007 04:04 AM
Gino CP
Gino CP

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Philippines

Nah, don't have any. Been using a belt tail for months now.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

07-19-2007 12:58 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Is this possible
rudderman 7 634 07-20-2007 07:00 AM
Splatcat
Gino CP

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Philippines

The tail can probably manage a mild brushless motor like the ARC 110 form http://www.lightflightrc.com.Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 

07-19-2007 12:47 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Blade
Power cuts out mid-flight for a split second
heli-fyno 15 1189 07-21-2007 12:34 AM
heli-fyno
Gino CP

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Philippines

Why do you have a 3-in-1 if you have a belt mod? You should be using separates by now. At any rate, how you connect it will not solve the problem.

The fact remains that the belt mod mechanically loads the heli and the added tail servo draws additional amps from the bec. Truth is, you need a better and separate bec to handle the load of 4 servos and a gyro plus the parasitic load of the belt tail.
Turn on a dime. Flip like a quarter. Feel like a million bucks.
 
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