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12-13-2007 05:37 PM  11 years ago
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Closed ••🚁Helicopter Align
Weird One
Flatstuff 15 907 12-16-2007 06:01 PM
Flatstuff
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Hi

Sounds like your govenor packed up (assuming one is fitted) and the underlying throttle curve is very high.
Higher head speed would certainly cause tail wag but not sure on the rotation.

Cheers
Bob J
 

12-13-2007 04:46 PM  11 years ago
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New video of the T Rex 500
bobj 2 802 12-13-2007 05:24 PM
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New video of the T Rex 500
Hi

Here's a short video of Align pilot Trevor Burley getting to grips with his new T Rex 500.

http://www.trextuning.com/blog/?page_id=159

Cheers
Bob
Align UK
 

12-12-2007 11:31 AM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix: Bad physics or bad settings? ( page 1 2 3 )
MrMel 58 2964 12-14-2007 01:54 AM
tnbulldog
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Hi MrMel

I understand what you are saying about the models behaviour in funnels but this is a very difficult area of flight to cover completely as almost every model can behave differently.

How much the model will pitch up (or down) depends on many factors, including but not limited to the following, head speed, flybar weight, bell ratio, hiller ratio, paddle section/size,
Main blade make, weight, CG, damping, size/shape of canopy, tightness of control system, quality of servo’s.

I have flown models which fly very close to how the sim models in Phoenix react I have also flown ones which are a little different but never so far away from it that it’s a problem and the
sim models are then of no use for practise.

As a bench mark I have revisited Real flite, Reflex and Aerofly from time to time and I am very confident that Phoenix is still way ahead of all of these overall, sure there are always going to be one feature or another which one sim will be clearly better than the rest on but one of the great things about the Phoenix sim is the guys behind it are very reactive and if they see a area of weakness in their product they will move heaven and earth to improve it.
You only have to look at their track record of updates to see this, while others wait a year or two before making a update (which they normal charge for!) the Phoenix guys do this for free not because the product won’t survive with out it or desperately needs this update but because they genuinely want to make the best sim out there, how many other companies react so quickly to valid customer feedback!?

I think we all focus too much on wanting the perfect product when in reality this doesn’t exist in any field, airliners crash, space shuttles blow up, Cars break down, computers lock up constantly, come back in say 100 years and everything will be vastly improved but still not perfect, if were still flying models in 100 years then I am sure Phoenix will still be ahead of the game

Cheers
Bob Johnston
 

11-19-2007 11:10 AM  11 years ago
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H60157 New Tail Rotor Hub TREX 600 600N 📷
duceduc 5 1313 12-10-2007 03:07 AM
MarshallB
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Hi Guys

There is no difference, previosly you could not buy the hub on it's own only as a complete tail hub assembly with the grips and bearings, Align have now released replacement hubs on their own,that's all there is to it.

I think there is some confusion caused because the 600E first came with a none thrusted raced tail hub assembly and the tail hub assembly which is standard on the Nitro's was first offered as a upgrade for the std 600E if you follow!

Cheers
Bob J
 

11-14-2007 02:27 PM  11 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Wow! Phoenix is Incredible! ( page 1 2 )
LJS 29 2317 11-19-2007 02:17 PM
LJS
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Hi

You wrote
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but is it just me, or do almost all of the helicopters within the same subsetting (scale, sport, etc..) feel the same in the air? For example, the trex600 feels like the other '3d' perfomance heli's.
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There is a difference between all the 3D models but as they are all representing well set up 3D models they will have a similar feel to them, I know the pitch on the 600N is not quite as sharp as it can be in the real world and this is something that will be worked on for future updates.
However I feel it's close enough not to be a issue and the Phoenix sim is still easily ahead of the competition and likely to stay that way for a long time.

Cheers
Bob J
 

10-28-2007 08:09 PM  11 years ago
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Help a new 600 Pro owner
v58 fuy 12 873 10-30-2007 01:30 PM
Bond007
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Hi

Your going to love this model:-)

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1) I see a lot of people say to use the metal blade grips as the dampners last longer in the head - is this really necessary or can I use the standard plastic grips?
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The damping is stiffer with the Ali grips and the dampers do last a bit longer but the model is fine with the plastic grips, I prefure the feel of it with plastic grips and the new spindle support which also helps the dampers last longer.
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2) Which dampners should I use for my level of flying and experience, should they be the grey ones or the black ones?
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Go with the black ones, the centre sleeve I mentioned above comes with even harder black dampers but might not be totally needed.
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3) Because my Raptor was the Titan I have 2 sets of new condition 620mm blades - can I run these on the 600N Pro with the std tail blades supplied? Or do I have to run 600mm only?
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No sorry you can't run 620mm blades so your going to have to sell these on and get some 600mm jobs, there a much bigger choice of 600mm blades available anyway.

Cheers
Bob J
 

10-16-2007 03:06 PM  12 years ago
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600 N how many in your club ? 📷 ( page 1 2 )
Simon - R 37 1631 10-16-2007 11:07 PM
Danny Calderone
bobj

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Hi

My local club is probably not typical but every one who is flying regular and confidently is flying at least one 600N, it's only the beginners that are still mainly flying a mix of other makes but even they are starting to find out how good the 600N is:-)

Cheers
Bob J
 

10-10-2007 03:02 PM  12 years ago
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Closed ••🚁Helicopter 🗓️Events
Charmouth 2007 ( page 1 2 )
ba board 23 1331 10-14-2007 06:58 PM
TAFFYBOY
bobj

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Hi
You wrote}
quieter than I remember from previous meets.
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Maybe you went to a different site to the rest of us, it was heaving with nearly three rows of cars parked up.
Flight line was packed all weekend, if you mean scale stuff then maybe there wasn't much but I didn't bother to go down that end and check:-)

It was a long wait to get a transmitter out and then you had to fight to get a flight spot but bloody great fun all the same.

Cheers
Bob J
 

09-29-2007 10:52 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Align
trex 700 power source?
wlfk 1 677 09-29-2007 10:52 AM
bobj
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Hi

The 700 will be Nitro only and is a 90 class model, please don't get too hyped about this model yet as it is a while off, the main thing is to make sure the model is really as good as it can be before release.

Cheers
Bob J
 

09-21-2007 03:01 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Main Discussion
They have got to be having a bath. 📷 ( page 1 2 3 )
TOSH 49 3894 09-25-2007 08:10 PM
Furious Predator
bobj

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Hi Tosh

Just had my Align night blades glowing away on my desk for 90 mins, one light is just starting to dim now.

There is no option on chargers and we have considered taking the mains charger out and just supplying with the 12v charger which would be the correct and legal thing to do or do we leave the mains in there so you have a option.
We have not yet supplied any of these to the trade so these didn't come from us anyway:-)
Not yet flown with them but looking forward to it.

Cheers
Bob
 

09-17-2007 02:09 PM  12 years ago
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Colin McRae feared dead in full scale heli crash***Confirmed****
A. Bundy 16 1121 09-18-2007 12:05 AM
HEILI FLYER
bobj

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I never really followed Rallying that closely but Colin always impressed, I was really depressed when I heard on Saturday afternoon and even more so when they confirmed it was him and his young son:-(

Bob J
 

09-15-2007 01:52 PM  12 years ago
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Plastic fan recall???
RLHeli 7 753 09-15-2007 02:29 PM
RLHeli
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Hi

I have never checked the balence on the fan, I did check the fan hub for run out once out of interest but as it is basically a Hyper hub it was very good so never checked anything again.
50 sized models should aways be plug and play which my Nitro's certainly are:-)

Cheers
Bob J
 

09-15-2007 11:31 AM  12 years ago
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Plastic fan recall???
RLHeli 7 753 09-15-2007 02:29 PM
RLHeli
bobj

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Hi

I am still using the std plastic fan in both my Pro's, one has GV-1 magnets just super glued in and is fine, the second one has aftermarket magnets like the CSM ones which are a little deeper, I just drilled the holes in the fan all the way though and again superglued them in place, this is fine also.
Yep the std fan needs a little bit of specail care but can and does work fine, I suspect Align will start packing kits with the improved fan in the future.

Cheers
Bob
 

08-26-2007 09:58 AM  12 years ago
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Strange sounds from 600n Sport - Resolved ( page 1 2 3 )
Magnazan 56 3523 09-01-2007 08:48 AM
Magnazan
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Hi

It could just be your tail belt is a little loose and slapping the inside of the boom, sound travels though the heli so it is some times very difficult to work out the origen of the sound.

If it is the MP breaking up which is very unlikely on the new MP5 then contact your dealer as CY stand behind their products and this would be replaced no issues.

Cheers
Bob J
 

08-12-2007 11:00 PM  12 years ago
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Closed ••🚁Helicopter Align
tail still wagging 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
micknick 119 6410 09-30-2007 09:16 PM
micknick
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Hi

The number one problem guys have with the 600N tail is using too big a servo arm, it only needs to be about 13 or 14mm (haven't actauly measured mine!) as the gearing on the tail linkage is high, I can run 30% gain on the 611 gyro with this set up at 2100 on the head.
Tail is very locked in!

It so helps stabilise the tail if you glue the plastic horizontal fin clamp on to the boom so it can't slip.

Cheers
Bob J
 

08-11-2007 12:00 AM  12 years ago
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Phoenix Simulator 📷
TREX in IRAQ 16 1891 08-12-2007 02:07 PM
Jungle Bob
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Hi

The default 6EX settings are screwed up, you need to reverse a few channels on your TX. I think these are the throttle, pitch and elevator from memory.
Sorry can't remember for sure as have had a few beers now:-)

Cheers
Bob J
 

08-06-2007 06:30 PM  12 years ago
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Muscle pipe 5 or Zimmerman
rappy raptor 13 938 08-10-2007 07:44 PM
turboomni
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Hi

The MP5 50 could never be called load, maybe you heared a old MP2?
I don't think the Zimmermann would be much quiter than a MP5 50 but would certainly be a good deal less power, if your into F3C type flying then maybe the Zimmermann would be a option but for every one else the MP5 50 is the kiddie!

Cheers
Bob
 

08-03-2007 10:58 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix 1.04 Update 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
maller 327 26089 03-25-2008 07:41 PM
JAGNZ
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Hi

That was a "proper" mid air:-)

It was so impressive I don't think either myself or Danny really minded although Danny's model got the worst of it as my blades cut into his frames.
Mine was not badly damaged at all actually, just looked like it had a bloody good boom strike.

Cheers
Bob
 

08-03-2007 12:50 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix 1.04 Update 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
maller 327 26089 03-25-2008 07:41 PM
JAGNZ
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Hi Barney

I was down with the Phoenix guys on Wednesday, the gravity has been increased a little now:-)
600N is done in sport, 3D and extreme versions, as are a few of the other models.
The Mini Titan is done as well.

Not sure when they plan to release this latest update as they want to check a few other things before hand.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-31-2007 01:15 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix 1.04 Update 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
maller 327 26089 03-25-2008 07:41 PM
JAGNZ
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Hi

My plank flying is not really that current as I only fly one a few times a year but have certainly flown them a LOT in the past, stall speed and how nasty the stall is very dependant on wing loading, wing section, aspect ratio, and wash out.
Also a engine with good throttle responce and a fine pitched prop will allow you to recover from the on set of stall very quickly with just a blip of throttle.
So if the planks in Phoenix have a low aspect ratio and low wing loading then expect a low stall speed and docile stall.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-26-2007 10:34 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Align
Align 90 📷
Nick Jones 18 2438 07-30-2007 05:48 PM
philip 01
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Hi Guys

There is "NO" time scale on the 90, it will happen but the development time might be longer than most think as it will be something a little bit special and has to be right.
If there was any offical or even unoffical word from Align then you lot would be ready to kill them when it isn't out in two weeks!
The 500 is still some time off but certainly closer than the 90/700, expect the 500 in a few months maybe.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-26-2007 10:25 PM  12 years ago
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•🌌Off Topics Jokes-Puzzles-Riddles
Lion attack
maxpower097 15 1266 09-17-2007 08:47 PM
Sp00ky
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the lion had to be there, they didn't!

If it was a cull then fair play but it doesn't look like it to me!

Poor Lion:-(
 

07-26-2007 09:17 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix - Are autos really this easy ( page 1 2 )
nheather 26 1588 07-28-2007 12:58 PM
EricW
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Hi Nigel

I only got to play with the latest release tonight as have been playing catch up after 3DM.

The auto's are fairly good on this and still way ahead of any other sim I have tried, do not confuse the amount of energy available when you hit the throttle hold in the hover with whats left after a real auto.
Yes there is currenty a little too much hang time when hitting the hold from the hover but go try a real auto from a 100ft of so up and you will find the energy remaining is about right.
As a training aid hitting the hold from a low hover is of little help in a sim but having a sim that is capable of accurate simulations of a real auto is.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-26-2007 09:11 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix - Are autos really this easy ( page 1 2 )
nheather 26 1588 07-28-2007 12:58 PM
EricW
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Hi Mike

Been able to do a blade stop is a very minor thing as it is not something that many will ever consider doing in real life, sure it can be worked on it later versions though.
Realflight won't even let you stop the blades or get the head speed below about 600rpm!

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-25-2007 05:09 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Align
600N - Bearings Quality 📷
Caseyho04 13 1140 07-26-2007 04:04 PM
Arky
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Hi

Just fly it dude, don't worry about any slop in the dampers or anything else this model is meant to fly and be low maintainence and it certainly is!
The reason for plastic main shaft bearing blocks is so the bearings will last way longer and a bad bearing will not cause a vibration in the model.
Just fly it, mine had gone 9 gallons with almost no maintainence, pity it munched it's way though Danny's coming the other way at 3DM:-)

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-25-2007 12:57 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix - Are autos really this easy ( page 1 2 )
nheather 26 1588 07-28-2007 12:58 PM
EricW
bobj

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Hi Nigel

Which release of 1.04 do you have?

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-17-2007 01:45 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix 1.04 Update 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
maller 327 26089 03-25-2008 07:41 PM
JAGNZ
bobj

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Hi David

No that's not what I am saying at all, apoligies if that how it came across.
There is a sports version of the Rappy 50 and even a Rappy 30 to give wider coverage, there are many more models planned but the Phoenix guys commited to this upgrade a while back and that is what they had to focus on for the time been.
As I said there is some middle ground and there almost certainly will be more "sports" set up models in the near future.

The auto's are improved for all sorts of auto's not just the 3D type, getting it right for 3D auto's is just the best way of making sure it works for all auto's, you should find it a great help for practising auto's now.
As I said hitting throttle hold in the hover from a high head speed is of limited use in the real world other than letting you practise lowering the model gently to the ground by good collective management.
The 1.04C sim should be of great help to practise standard 45 degree decent auto's.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-17-2007 12:27 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix 1.04 Update 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
maller 327 26089 03-25-2008 07:41 PM
JAGNZ
bobj

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Hi

I would just like to pass comment on a few issues raised over 1.04

There have a been a lot of comments over the power of the 50 sized models, remember these are set up to be 3D models producing the most possible power available from the Hyper with a decent muffler and 30% Nitro, an issue with a Sim v the real world is there is so much less feed back you can't over pitch the models and fly the pitch so much on the sim.
So to get the same initial punch on the collective you have to set it so the model will not load too badly but give a decent initial climb out, this does mean you will have more sustained power than you get in the real world but I have not found a way around this yet, comments certainly welcome on this if any one thinks they can improve on this then great, that’s why it’s a beta.

It does bring up a interesting question, should there be several versions of each model in the sim, “full on” 3D version, 3D version with a crap engine, crap gyro version, crap servo version, crap servo's, gyro and engine, crap blades, etc etc or should the models be set up to perform as best they can?
I think there is some middle ground as always and maybe there should be multiple versions of each model but this takes time to do so it won't happen overnight.

As for the auto performance, this was raised from the amount of reserve I had set following some last minute beta testing by others, but still you will find the actual reserve is about right for full on auto’s, hitting the hold in the hover will give a over the top hang time but this is a not real life situation, ok yes you can do this but what’s the point, go and try full on aerobatic auto’s and you will find it does this way better than any other sim out there.

I understand the auto reserve will be reset back to how I had it on the next update shortly.

Auto's on a sim are still much harder than in real life just because of the limitations of any sim (your effectively looking though a small window at the heli and have no real feeling as to where your looking) we (the Phoenix guys and myself) worked very hard to increase the feedback on the auto on the sim and I think there is more we can do but it takes time and effort beyond this update.
Remember one of the reasons Phoenix have risen so quick to be the top sim is they listen and updating the sim is a constant process.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-15-2007 10:40 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix 1.04 Update 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
maller 327 26089 03-25-2008 07:41 PM
JAGNZ
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Hi Guys

The 600N will have to wait until after the Masters now, just not enough hours in the day at the mo.
Still it could easily be out in under two weeks which isn't too long to wait.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-11-2007 04:14 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Align
600N balance 📷
tchavei 11 1155 07-12-2007 11:59 PM
tchavei
bobj

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Hi Tony

Really don't worry about the CG on a heli, unless it is massively out it will make very little difference, I slight trim difference between upright/inverted and that's it.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-11-2007 12:37 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix 1.04 Update 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
maller 327 26089 03-25-2008 07:41 PM
JAGNZ
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Hi Joe

Sorry I have no idea on that but will try to find out, I have been working on getting the flight model right including much improved auto's and sounds.

Barney, I am sure Ade wouldn't do such a thing:-)

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-11-2007 10:54 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Radio - Spektrum DSM
Who has the dx7 in stock in the UK
Snake Rimmer 13 786 07-15-2007 10:10 PM
lib435
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Hi

Yes a large shipment of DX7's hit the UK a few days ago at long long last so every one should be back in stock of them now, I know we are:-)

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-10-2007 06:11 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix 1.04 Update 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
maller 327 26089 03-25-2008 07:41 PM
JAGNZ
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Hi Matt

The release should be a couple of days away at most unless they find any last second bugs.
The 600N may not make it on to the Beta release but most likely will be a downloadable model shortly afterwards.
1.04 is a BIG change from the earlier version, far more work they at first thought with far more changes:-)

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-09-2007 09:46 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix 1.04 Update 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
maller 327 26089 03-25-2008 07:41 PM
JAGNZ
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Hi

While I don't know for sure the actual release date I am heading down to the Phoenix guys again right now to help them give it more or less a final polish and check over, can't think it will be many more days now unless we find some thing unexpected but that never happens with software does it:-)

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-07-2007 09:18 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Main Discussion
MK HeliClub Fly-in 7th and 8th July Updated 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Patriot 94 5220 07-18-2007 06:35 PM
DOKEY
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Hi Tosh

Drink lots of water then, see you all this afternoon.
Forecast is sunny but a little breezy, this should drop later in the day and tomorrow is looking even better with light winds.
Bring sun screen:-)

Cheers
Bob
 

07-06-2007 11:02 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Main Discussion
MK HeliClub Fly-in 7th and 8th July Updated 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Patriot 94 5220 07-18-2007 06:35 PM
DOKEY
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Sam the man

Bring some breakfast with you, last nights cold Thai would be fine for me after a few of Patriot's beers:-)

See you there

Bob
 

07-06-2007 10:50 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Thunder - Raptor E325
Radix Blades problem
mickynoise 16 980 07-10-2007 11:16 AM
mickynoise
bobj

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Hi

Just a thought, the noise could be a slightly loose tail belt hitting the inside of the boom.
You might well be getting a higher head speed with the Radix because of their lower drag and more stable nature so this could be setting up a wave in the tail belt at certain RPM's.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-06-2007 10:27 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix GyroTail letting go??
ghettotige 2 495 07-06-2007 10:27 PM
bobj
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Hi

The tail is much improved in the upcoming 1.04 release, the problem is in the real world depending on model, gyro and set up tails can and do blow out but given a good set up and gyro you have to try very hard to make it happen.

The default 3D type models will have much stronger tails now.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-06-2007 08:30 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Main Discussion
MK HeliClub Fly-in 7th and 8th July Updated 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Patriot 94 5220 07-18-2007 06:35 PM
DOKEY
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What????????????

I heard the MK club were providing free Beer, not sure if I will come if I have got to drink my own Beer:-)))))))))))

Looking forward to it.

Bob J
 

07-05-2007 08:33 PM  12 years ago
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MK HeliClub Fly-in 7th and 8th July Updated 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Patriot 94 5220 07-18-2007 06:35 PM
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Hi
-----------------------
Weather looks good so please turn up for the two days, don't forget the beer for Saturday night Bob
------------------------

What Beer, I never drink personally:-)

I did say I would book some good weather which given the recent stuff wasn't easy to do but it is now book and it will be good at the weekend!

Cheers
Bob
 

07-04-2007 01:55 PM  12 years ago
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Last Question, promise! 📷
MJHiscott92504 4 576 07-04-2007 03:50 PM
MJHiscott92504
bobj

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Hi

The 6amp job.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-04-2007 12:28 PM  12 years ago
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Align TT question?
MJHiscott92504 6 591 07-04-2007 03:55 PM
MJHiscott92504
bobj

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Hi

I don't know any one how has done this but the tube drive support is made from rubber so very flexible and it shouldn't be a problem to do this as it should pretty much self centre.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-04-2007 08:38 AM  12 years ago
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MK HeliClub Fly-in 7th and 8th July Updated 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Patriot 94 5220 07-18-2007 06:35 PM
DOKEY
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Hi

Weather still looking good for the weekend, count me in unless is throws it down all day.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-04-2007 08:36 AM  12 years ago
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Damn this English weather 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Yug 2078 74426 09-12-2007 01:35 AM
Yug
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Still looking good for the MK fly-in this weekend, I should get a job with the Metoffice:-)

Bob (fingers still crossed but starting to feel smug) J
 

07-02-2007 11:07 AM  12 years ago
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ATG Curtis and Align 6V regulator ?
djedje 3 552 07-02-2007 12:42 PM
djedje
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Hi

I would be very suprised if it doesn't most electronics can take 6v, it is only some servo's which are not happy on this.

Best regards
Bob J
 

07-02-2007 09:53 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix 1.04 Update 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
maller 327 26089 03-25-2008 07:41 PM
JAGNZ
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Hi Guys

It's going to be a few more days yet, I am down with the Phoenix guys tomorrow and then it will go out on a limited release to a selected few for final checking then general beta release.
I would think it will be available by the end of the week but there is no point in doing this until it is as good as we can get it so please hold on a few more days, it will be worth the wait:-)

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-01-2007 01:26 PM  12 years ago
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Damn this English weather 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Yug 2078 74426 09-12-2007 01:35 AM
Yug
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Hi

My prediction is holding up so far, it looks like the MK fly-in next week end might just get decent weather:-)

Latest chart is looking good, not great but better than we have seen for a long time.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-01-2007 11:20 AM  12 years ago
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Flying without the engine fan cover ( page 1 2 )
ejdeleon 24 1687 07-01-2007 11:39 PM
Ozydego
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Hi

You could always night fly with out the fan cover, no need for lights on the heli as I am sure the engine will be glowing enough to light up everything:-)

You really do need that cover.

Cheers
Bob J
 

07-01-2007 11:16 AM  12 years ago
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Keeping up Appearance's 📷
colsy 7 1063 07-02-2007 11:12 AM
DEFILER
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Don't they look sweet:-)

So do I get to break them both for you next weekend at MK assuming it actually stops raining by then:-)))

Cheers
Bob
 

06-29-2007 01:36 PM  12 years ago
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Damn this English weather 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Yug 2078 74426 09-12-2007 01:35 AM
Yug
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Hi Simon

Do some bloody work then, I have to:-(

Or come up here and spend yourself happy:-)))

Cheers
Bob
 

06-29-2007 08:17 AM  12 years ago
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Damn this English weather 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Yug 2078 74426 09-12-2007 01:35 AM
Yug
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Hi

I am going to stick my neck out and say it looks like summer might just start by late next week but this is a llloooonnnggg range optmistic hope at best.
Would be about time!

Cheers
Bob J
 

06-26-2007 12:56 PM  12 years ago
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What don't you like about your 600n? Every heli need a bitch thread;) 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 )
whirlyspud 76 5541 07-07-2007 11:22 PM
blt4ice
bobj

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Hi

No issues with my 600N's as such but I am sure they are responsible for the the crappy weather in the UK, all I want to do it fly these models a LOT but it won't stop raining:-(

Cheers
Bob (in the very damp UK)J
 

06-25-2007 07:01 PM  12 years ago
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One way seized ( page 1 2 3 )
Azlum 47 3414 06-28-2007 03:04 AM
bsc
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Hi

Fairly sure it's the Japanese bearing that causes the problem, the German bearings seem to be holding up fine.

Problem is once a bearing has failed in the housing is damages the housing so the new bearing will also fair after a while.

Cheers
Bob J
 

06-24-2007 08:21 PM  12 years ago
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Closed ••🚁Helicopter Flybarless Rotor Head Systems
T-REX 600 "CycLock 1 CCPM Manager" - Flybarless System!!! 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 )
phanliu 65 11460 09-27-2007 09:11 AM
neconico
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Hi Trev

You wrote
"Practise time now"

Your assuming that the rain might actually stop one day, only stopped on and off for about a hour or so today, still managed to get 6 flights in so I am happy.

Cheers
Bob
 

06-24-2007 10:05 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Radio - Servo - Gyro - Gov - Batt
Gy611 Limit setting
Helijockey 9 631 06-24-2007 07:05 PM
Helijockey
bobj

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Hi

If you can get the travel up that high with out binding then your servo arm is too small and as has been said the limits should be about the same so things must be very off centre.

Cheers
Bob J
 

06-24-2007 09:00 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix 1.04 Update 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
maller 327 26089 03-25-2008 07:41 PM
JAGNZ
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Hi

That I don't know for sure but will be getting to test and work on the new version in a couple of days:-)
Adey Law might have better idea on this currently!?

Cheers
Bob
 

06-23-2007 10:55 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Computer - Phoenix
Phoenix 1.04 Update 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
maller 327 26089 03-25-2008 07:41 PM
JAGNZ
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Hi Rotor Shark

OK what Heli's would you like to see added to Phoenix, a good chunk of the most popular ones are already available and the T Rex 600 Nitro will be added very soon.

If there is enough demand for a model I am sure it can be added in a reasonable time scale.

Cheers
Bob J
 

06-22-2007 12:59 AM  12 years ago
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few questions about the trex nitro.
scottc 2 490 06-22-2007 12:59 AM
bobj
bobj

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Hi

The stock paddles work very well with a good mix of stability but plenty enough responce for 3D stuff.
You do need to cover them with the supplied stickers.

Cheers
Bob J
 

06-21-2007 01:51 PM  12 years ago
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Recieved 2 Trex600N's Yesterday, And Both Already Built 📷
Boothie 11 1339 06-21-2007 11:56 PM
Jasper7
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Hi Chris

It would be rude not to:-)

You would love the way it flies!

Cheers
Bob
 

06-20-2007 11:12 PM  12 years ago
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T-REX 600 N ... CSM FLY-BAR-LESS conversion! (clutch mod) 📷
hayabusa 18 1874 06-24-2007 11:41 PM
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Hi

Patriot is correct in saying what I meant was you will loose a lot of resolution with out gearing down the input.
I suspect with your current set up that you will end up with a very compressed swash travel, I am sure the gyro's will cope with this but the model won't be able to fly as accurately as it could do.
It's a bit like putting a 30mm servo arm on your tail servo, it will work but probably not ideal:-)

Cheers
Bob
 

06-19-2007 09:03 PM  12 years ago
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T-REX 600 N ... CSM FLY-BAR-LESS conversion! (clutch mod) 📷
hayabusa 18 1874 06-24-2007 11:41 PM
hayabusa
bobj

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Hi

I am sure it will work as is but I suspect you need to gear the input down with either mixer arms or a much longer arm on the blade grips, your going to loose a lot of resolution with the current set up I sespect.

Cheers
Bob J
 

06-16-2007 03:25 PM  12 years ago
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600n tail glitch !!!SOLVED!!! 📷
Angus540t 19 1516 06-17-2007 04:20 PM
trex600pup
bobj

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Hi

------------
as for the fin clamp, it moves like a SOB im gonna fix it right now, but why dose this cause a problem?
------------

Cose what happens is the clamp slips randomly so the tail of the model flex's effectively going around in small jerks rather than the same rate as the rest of the model, this really confuses the gyro.
A loose clamp or even boom support end will always degrade tail performance.
The more rigid the model is along it's total length the better the gyro can function.

Cheers
Bob J
 

06-16-2007 02:02 PM  12 years ago
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600n tail glitch !!!SOLVED!!! 📷
Angus540t 19 1516 06-17-2007 04:20 PM
trex600pup
bobj

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United Kingdom

Hi

The mechanical gain/advantage is high on the Align models so they do not need a very big servo arm compared to some.

Use shortish servo arm lenghts and expect slightly lower gains than you get in other models but the tail hold and power should be very good, mine will not break loose what ever I do.
Also as I already stated it is very important that the horizontal fin clamp can not move, tightening it up well is not enough with the plastic clamp, glue the sucker in place!

Cheers
Bob J
 

06-16-2007 11:42 AM  12 years ago
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600n tail glitch !!!SOLVED!!! 📷
Angus540t 19 1516 06-17-2007 04:20 PM
trex600pup
bobj

rrVeteran

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Hi

As Barney said, move the servo arm in a hole and if your using the supplied plastic fin clamp, take it off, degrease everything and refit it with slow Zap or epoxy.

Cheers
Bob J
 

06-15-2007 09:18 PM  12 years ago
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Removed
heli-hurley 2 641 06-15-2007 09:23 PM
Real Raptors
bobj

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Hi

If this was for one of the 600 Nitro sports (belt drive) then they have not made it to the UK yet, they will be in the UK on Monday and with RRaptors on Tuesday.

Cheers
Bob J
 

06-15-2007 01:17 PM  12 years ago
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UK, flying feild and shop!
lajwab 2 475 06-15-2007 01:17 PM
bobj
bobj

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Hi

We (Skyline Models) are just about the other side of London from you, about a 50 Mile drive, about 1 to 1 and a half hours drive depending on traffic.

Cheers
Bob J
 

06-12-2007 06:54 PM  12 years ago
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Dampers
GScott 14 1174 06-15-2007 12:56 AM
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Hi

My dampers in the Nitro get some play in them quickly after only a couple of flights but it really isn't a problem and I have had the same dampers in for over 3 gallons now, sure there is some play but overal the head is still rigid and I have no nodding issues with them like this.

Don't worry about it too much and just fly the model!

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-27-2007 09:22 PM  12 years ago
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engine removal 📷
Maxime 6 1045 05-27-2007 09:50 PM
Barney
bobj

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Hi Maxime

Sounds like you need to invest in a good set of hex drivers, a few of the better sets give you straight and ball ends.
The ball ends allows you to wizz out bolts that you can't get to with a straight end like the engine mount bolts on most heli's.

UpdateRC have some on their website http://www.updaterc.com/V2/catalog/...roducts_id=3905

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-26-2007 11:24 PM  12 years ago
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Align 6A Bec with 9252s
harveyhugo 12 1139 05-29-2007 11:39 PM
Stealth
bobj

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Hi

Only have about a gallon and a half though my 600N with the 6amp Reg velcro'ed to the side frame, been good so far.

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-26-2007 12:09 PM  12 years ago
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Closed ••🚁Helicopter Main Discussion
The ST NEOTS FLYIN at Graveley on sunday 3rd of June ((uk)) all welcome 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
Nightstalker 81 3428 06-11-2007 09:59 PM
nivlek
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Hi Steve

Easy, make's it sound like I am dead:-)

I didn't realise until very recently that I had cocked up my dates and it's my GF's sons birthday which I won't be able to get out of.

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-25-2007 10:45 AM  12 years ago
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Anyone solved the canopy rubbing yet? - Solved. 📷
Eury 10 1527 05-25-2007 09:14 PM
mickeyapples
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Hi Guys

I don't think I am seeing this with mine, I have Futaba S9255 servo's fitted with 28mm servo arms, I can see very slight marks on the inside of the canopy where it must contact the arm at times in flight but no real issue here as they are not binding as such.

You are putting the linkage balls on the inside of the arms!?
Also presume you have fittted the rubber canopy buffers?

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-25-2007 09:12 AM  12 years ago
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Tail issue 📷
tcast305 19 1925 05-27-2007 11:13 PM
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Hi

Following what Barney said about the fin clamp, try degreasing it and the boom underneath it and bonding to the boom with either slow Zap or epoxy, any movement in the fin clamp will upset the gyro.

Also as I said earlier if you haven't already done it make sure your gyro is in 3D mode.

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-24-2007 03:51 PM  12 years ago
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So no one has ran into any problems with the new kit yet? ( page 1 2 3 )
QuantumPSI 41 4518 05-24-2007 06:28 PM
Chief_Wilson
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Hi Barney

Hope you get some calmer weather to try it in soon, not looking good over the Bank Holiday though:-(

I had mine on the outer hole but JK said to use the inner one, can't say I noticed a great deal of difference, it might be more pronouced with lighter paddles.

Cheers
Bob
 

05-24-2007 02:19 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Align
600N UK availability ?
Rbush 15 1405 05-27-2007 03:02 PM
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Hi

Another small batch left Align today heading for Align UK and should be here on Tuesday, it is not big enough to cover all back orders but should make a few happy.

We are pushing Align as hard as we can and they are working hard to get kits out the door as fast as they can, just hang in there, it's very worth the wait.

Cheers
Bob
 

05-24-2007 12:14 PM  12 years ago
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Tail issue 📷
tcast305 19 1925 05-27-2007 11:13 PM
tcast305
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Hi

My tail played up a little to start with in the way your have, in the end I have ended up with 27% gain and the hold is just fine, I know others are using a slightly shorter arm to allow higher values.
The biggest difference I noticed was I set mine up in a big hurry and only later found the gyro was still in F3C mode, switching to 3D mode made the tail much more stable.

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-24-2007 11:23 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Align
So no one has ran into any problems with the new kit yet? ( page 1 2 3 )
QuantumPSI 41 4518 05-24-2007 06:28 PM
Chief_Wilson
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Hi Barney

You didn't say what main blades you are using, I am using Radix with the stock paddles and although it is ok my 600E with Radix again but Stubz paddles has far quicker cyclic so much more fun.
Both have plenty of stability in FFF so maybe it's your main blades!?
My 600N will be getting either Stubz when the next batch is in or the Align V paddle type paddles.
My swash is about max out as much as possible, interestingly with the stock paddles I din't find the need for any Expo at all, I have some on with the Stubz.
I still haven't fitted a govenor but it's running about 2150 on the head and as much collective as I can get so probably +-14.

I am still using the stock plastic fin clamp, I fitted this with a smear of slow Zap under it and it's holding up fine.
I wanted to fly the kit stock for a while to make sure everything works fine and holds up well!

BTW I am sure you won't want to know this but the past two evenings have been wonderful down here, warm bright and zero wind:-)

Cheers
Bob
 

05-23-2007 10:08 PM  12 years ago
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600N UK availability ?
Rbush 15 1405 05-27-2007 03:02 PM
sam tse
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Hi

The 600N has gone from existing only in CAD at the start of the year to hitting the market by 4 months later so Align have moved very quickly on this indeed.
However it is one of the most antisapated models ever so demand is amazingly high (I know how many back orders Align have for it!) and they have had supply problems with a few parts because of this demand.
The models are coming though but in limited quantitiies, the good news is the supply can only improve from now on.

I think what your trying to say is Align have a history of rapidly developing and inproving their products, I don't see anything wrong with that, they wouldn't have grabbed the market as strongly if they hadn't.

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-23-2007 10:41 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Align
So no one has ran into any problems with the new kit yet? ( page 1 2 3 )
QuantumPSI 41 4518 05-24-2007 06:28 PM
Chief_Wilson
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Hi Barney

Just looked at my model after your comments and my cyclic servo arms are at a total distance of 28mm (hole centre to hole centre) speaking to Jason the other night he was adament that 30mm is the best option.
My 600E is slightly wider at about 32mm and this is a little too much and I can feel the lose of resolution between this and the Nitro, must change it soon.
My roll servo's are not touching the canopy as such but you can see slight marks on the inside of the canopy where they are just touching some times in flight when the canopy wobbles but not enough to cuase a problem.
I am using Futaba S9255 servo's but just looked at some Hi-Tec HS 6965HB's and these have about a 3mm higher mounting so the servo arms will be pushed out another 3mm which might explain why yours are rubbing.
If you have space between the two servo's you might be able to mount them with the lugs inside the frames to move them in a little.

Regarding the tail you might find your servo arm is too big, the gearing is quite high on the tail so you only need about a 14mm arm (at least on a Futaba gyro)

My regulator is velcro'ed to the side frame and although the LED's aren't highly visable I can see them enough to check them at the end of the flight.
It's in the same location as the one pictured on Jason's website http://www.jkheli.com/

Cheers
Bob
 

05-22-2007 10:21 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Align - T-REX 600
Which Battery Connector for 600? 📷
rdr4evr69 8 628 05-23-2007 02:44 AM
airboss
bobj

rrVeteran

United Kingdom

Hi

Yep Deans are the best all round option really.

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-21-2007 08:10 PM  12 years ago
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600N crash cost - when will non-Pro be out
v58 fuy 17 1435 05-21-2007 08:45 PM
RonHill
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Hi David

--------------------
That's what I wanted to hear basically some time in June for the non-Pro - great.

Don't get me wrong I've seen the Pro up close in person and it's a lovely machine, but am I wrong before making a purchase to consider what the crash cost will be?

The average club flier into sport/aerobatic/mild 3D will crash from time to time and needs to think about the costs involved. Align make great flying heli's just remember that a lot of people buying the 600N will be current Raptor fliers.
--------------------
I for one plan to put a plastic canopy on mine for every day use, the inescapeable fact is if you fly it enough it will crash sooner or later and I plan to fly mine a lot, the std painted glass canopy is very nice and almost too nice to trash so for every day flying it will get a plastic jobbie and the glass one for best/fly-in's.

You could always go for the pro version and put a belt drive on it and save the tube drive parts for when your flying is at a level when you will appreciate the difference (BTW the tube drive version auto's amazingly)

I sure we will see a lot of guys mixing and matching parts to get it exactly what they need out the model.

The plastic canopy is planned to be in white but I am trying to talk Align in to a yellow canopy as I think it looks better and certainly stands out better against our cloudy skies than white.
----------------------

Don't ban me cos I'll have a non-Pro version as soon as there out.
----------------------

I really do hope we have a massive stack of non Pro versions soon, don't think they will hang around for long:-)

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-21-2007 06:41 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Align
600N crash cost - when will non-Pro be out
v58 fuy 17 1435 05-21-2007 08:45 PM
RonHill
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Hi David

Not meant to be flaming but the way you presented your post did line it up to come in for a little flack.
Cherry picking the "the" most expensive parts which probably won't get broken in most crash's and then comparing it to a Raptor with out a carbon base plate (have you seen how much the genuine TT one costs!) and a good boom strike will take out the tail belt which is 20 quid, the 600 tube drive is 12 quid in round figures.
Yes your right a plastic canopy and belt drive is always going to be cheaper to run but you do get what you pay for.

The sport version is due out on the 5th of June but I expect it might run a few day late, Align have already moulded the plastic canopy and it's lighter than the glass one which is already not a bad weight.

Cheers
Bob J
Align UK
 

05-21-2007 05:56 PM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter Main Discussion
Something strange happened, any ideas ?
Yug 13 1065 05-22-2007 05:26 AM
Butch
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Hi Guy

I can certainly see that with the weights all the way in you would loose a lot of the flybar stability and on my 600E with the weights in/off that although the model tracked ok it was hard work to lock in to things like tornado's, fitting the weights on and all the way out didn't really slow the cyclic rate but gave a big improvement in accuracy so I didn't have to work so hard with things.

I can't see that it would cause the model to loop but it might well reach a critical state where the flybar does not have enough mass to stop the model pitching up strongly at a certain airspeed.

Flown the 600N yet?

Cheers
Bob
 

05-17-2007 10:57 AM  12 years ago
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••🚁Helicopter e-Align
t-rex v2
cheechmymarin 4 552 05-17-2007 03:17 PM
Pistol Pete
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Hi

I think you mean the T Rex SE V2 and the 430XL motor, if so then I am sure there are more powerful options but try the kit motor first with a decent pack and you will be suprised it has plenty of power anyway.

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-17-2007 09:22 AM  12 years ago
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Torque tube installation ?
Yug 4 1416 05-17-2007 03:56 PM
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Hi Guy

I used a little thread lock between the bearing and tube and then let it set for a few hours, I also smeared a little grease on the inside of the boom so the bearing carrier could slide down the boom easily.

Cheers
Bob
 

05-17-2007 12:05 AM  12 years ago
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Is the 600 Nitro available in UK? 📷 ( page 1 2 )
Peter G 28 2511 05-23-2007 10:55 PM
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Oops

Post edits.

Bob
 

05-16-2007 11:34 PM  12 years ago
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Is the 600 Nitro available in UK? 📷 ( page 1 2 )
Peter G 28 2511 05-23-2007 10:55 PM
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Hi

I think it is "UN"likely you will find one on a shelf for the next month or two, the only way to get one is to put your name down with some one and wait a while.

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-10-2007 06:18 PM  12 years ago
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T-REX 600 The waiting is over. Here is the Trex 600 Nitro Pro 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
aamwood 366 31480 06-13-2007 08:01 AM
trex600pup
bobj

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Hi

Like the Raptor 60/90 pinned ends but the tube is ali.

Cheers
Bob (out of here) J
 

05-10-2007 05:45 PM  12 years ago
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aamwood 366 31480 06-13-2007 08:01 AM
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Did someone mention test flying in the rain??

Ar but I will be spin drying it shortly, that's if it stops raining!

Bob
 

05-10-2007 05:30 PM  12 years ago
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aamwood 366 31480 06-13-2007 08:01 AM
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bobj

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Hi

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Well I found something I don't like (and I don't even have one yet). And that's the plastic cross members. I was hoping to have to use machine screws with ali cross members. I don't mind the plastic frame blocks, but definitely would have preferred ali bars going through them instead of having to use self tapping screws directly into the part. Just a preference though...
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The frame joining blocks are plastic which is good as lighter and kinder on the mast bearings, they do have Ali insurts in them so the M3 screws go into these and are not selftappers.
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Little disappointed to see self tapping screws on a $600 kit

Also, I don't like the plastic bell hiller mixers (or any of the plastic parts in the head for that matter, except grips), but I'll replace those
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Nothing wrong with the right plastic used in the right place, if metal is so good why aren't we all waiting on Quick WW heli:-)

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-10-2007 03:00 PM  12 years ago
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aamwood 366 31480 06-13-2007 08:01 AM
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bobj

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Hi Guy

The scales we have here definitely weigh a little over but on these mine came out at 3.367KG ready to fly including a blade caddy but no fuel.
So I think the 3.2kG quoted weight is probably about right.

Cheers
Bob
 

05-10-2007 02:22 PM  12 years ago
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aamwood 366 31480 06-13-2007 08:01 AM
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Hi

Just came back from first test flight of my nitro in the rain and wind!
Looking good, engine was already run in so no messing about with that.
First impressions are just how I thought it would be based on flying my 600E and seeing all the video's, I have the stock paddles on and these feel a little slow for my preference so will be putting something a little more agressive on in time.
The set up was a very quick one last night so I need to spend time getting the last 5% out of the model and giving it a check over now but so far very very good:-)

Photo's will be posted on the Align UK website soon.

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-10-2007 11:17 AM  12 years ago
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T-REX 600 The waiting is over. Here is the Trex 600 Nitro Pro 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
aamwood 366 31480 06-13-2007 08:01 AM
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Hi

Steve, yes engine drops in and out with out having to remove base plate or skids, Guy, yes design by JK those who have a Synergy will notice the strong JK influence on this model.
Barry, I think the holes are drilled for the GV-1 sensor and no bracket is supplied in the kit or needed if fitting a GV-1, sure you could adapted something for other makes easy enough.
Not fitted a govenor to mine yet as I normaly fly 50 sized with out one but will slap one in when I have more time.

Cheers
Bob
 

05-10-2007 11:00 AM  12 years ago
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T-REX 600 The waiting is over. Here is the Trex 600 Nitro Pro 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
aamwood 366 31480 06-13-2007 08:01 AM
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bobj

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Hi Yug

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Thanks. Just had a look through the manual and was most pleased to see how the machine is designed. It seems alot of thought has gone into the layout of this heli and looks as if many of the things that one would like to see on a heli have been dealt with here. Just got to play the waiting game now
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yes the build was both a pleasant and interesting experience, all heli's have good and bad ideas on them, I am still looking for the bad ideas on this one, haven't found them yet:-)
Test flight in a few hours.

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-10-2007 09:27 AM  12 years ago
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T-REX 600 The waiting is over. Here is the Trex 600 Nitro Pro 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
aamwood 366 31480 06-13-2007 08:01 AM
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Hi all

Not sure if this is the finished production manual but sure it will be of some interest.

http://www.alignuk.com/manuals/align600n.pdf

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-09-2007 01:00 PM  12 years ago
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aamwood 366 31480 06-13-2007 08:01 AM
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bobj

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Hi

Well my one is built but I am out of time and need to go do some catch up at work, the radio and engine will be in later today so test flight this evening or most likely tomorrow.

very pleasing straight forward build, very impressed with the whole thing so far, can't wait to get it in the air:-)

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-08-2007 06:11 PM  12 years ago
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aamwood 366 31480 06-13-2007 08:01 AM
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bobj

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Hi

Perks of the job:-)

Or put it another way so I have a good understanding of the product so can give decent tech support on it when you all get yours.

Cheers
Bob (Align UK) J
 

05-08-2007 05:25 PM  12 years ago
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T-REX 600 The waiting is over. Here is the Trex 600 Nitro Pro 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
aamwood 366 31480 06-13-2007 08:01 AM
trex600pup
bobj

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United Kingdom

Hi

Only seen the white canopy in the flesh so far, looks good but should look even better when I get a chance to build the model tonight:-)

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-08-2007 01:01 PM  12 years ago
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T-REX 600 The waiting is over. Here is the Trex 600 Nitro Pro 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
aamwood 366 31480 06-13-2007 08:01 AM
trex600pup
bobj

rrVeteran

United Kingdom

Hi

Got my first look in a 600 Nitro pro kit today, very impressed with it.

Whole clutch/fan assembly is must bigger than a Rappy, big pinion gear for lots of tooth contact, fan hub is basically the same design as a Hyper hub, the top of the pinion gear is threaded so a slime nut spins down to lock the pinion to the bearing like the Raptor 60/90, pinion bearing is also a lot bigger than a Rappy one.
Blade grips are beefed up.
Boom supports are now factory assembled and pinned!

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-08-2007 11:23 AM  12 years ago
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new curtis youngblood pipe mp-2 50?
ronlaw 4 651 05-09-2007 02:23 AM
The man
bobj

rrVeteran

United Kingdom

Hi

It will be the MP5 50 sized and directly replaces the MP2 50 sized.
It will only be available in one ratio as the old high ratio for the older JR models is no longer required.

Cheers
Bob J
 

05-05-2007 11:22 AM  12 years ago
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T-REX 600 The waiting is over. Here is the Trex 600 Nitro Pro 📷 ( page 1 2 3 4 ... Last page )
aamwood 366 31480 06-13-2007 08:01 AM
trex600pup
bobj

rrVeteran

United Kingdom

Hi Dave

Please remember Align's own site is for the their home market only and should be used for reference only, I don't think there has been a price increase Globaly so this probably just applies to their own market.

Cheers
Bob J
 
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