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02-04-2021 01:24 AM  8 months ago
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Reaper1

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Turbine power on vario 120 or not
What the power difference in turbine and electric and the flying time is the same on flight on the 120
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02-04-2021 02:04 AM  8 months ago
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well, i am ot sure what the flight time difference is but i know Sandy seem to fly his Vario E120 electric for a pretty good amount of time. Either way, i prefer electric power over turbine in a helicopter. Usually quieter, cleaner neater setup. turbines never seem to have a scale looking exhaust stack as it sometimes exit the fuselage at an angle that isnt correct and oversized in some cases and my buddy Pat puts it best when he says the trubine helos sound like a fighter jet more than it does a heli. Just my opinion of course ;-)drive a rotary, fly a rotorcraft
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02-04-2021 02:13 PM  8 months ago
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If you're going to go the turbine route, you need to consider where you can fly it. In my case, I bought a turbine helicopter not realizing most of the r/c club fields in my area are former land fills and turbines are not allowed. Luckily I found a club field where I can fly it, however it's 1 hour drive from my home. You will also need to get your turbine waiver to fly at a club field and/or funfly event.
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02-08-2021 10:37 AM  8 months ago
MattJen

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lt1pwr If you're going to go the turbine route, you need to consider where you can fly it. In my case, I bought a turbine helicopter not realizing most of the r/c club fields in my area are former land fills and turbines are not allowed. Luckily I found a club field where I can fly it, however it's 1 hour drive from my home. You will also need to get your turbine waiver to fly at a club field and/or funfly event.
There is no candidate "best" power choice. Each have strengths & weaknesses, pros & cons; and what you eventually decide to purchase will be based on what your needs are.
I like Electric, more powerful, lighter, less hassle with noise and fuel and ancillaries.. Probably cheaper to..as no bearing service intervals like turbines where you have to ship across the world.
Most of the large scale in my club are electric.. the only thing people liked about my turbine was the smell LOL.
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02-09-2021 11:36 AM  8 months ago
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Sorry Matt, but I don't agree.

By the time you have multiple packs of Lipo's and a decent motor, ESC & charging system - you are into Turbine money area.
You don't have the multiple charging issues of many LiPo's to charge and constantly keep a check on.
As long as you have your fuel and a good battery on the turbine, you can fly all day if needed.
As for the weight different - it's not that much at all.

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02-09-2021 12:14 PM  8 months ago
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As long as you have you fuelled a good battery on the turbine, you can fly all day if needed.

And that start-up is so sweet!
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02-09-2021 03:04 PM  8 months ago
MattJen

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modtron Sorry Matt, but I don't agree.

By the time you have multiple packs of Lipo's and a decent motor, ESC & charging system - you are into Turbine money area.
You don't have the multiple charging issues of many LiPo's to charge and constantly keep a check on.
As long as you have your fuel and a good battery on the turbine, you can fly all day if needed.
As for the weight different - it's not that much at all.
Fair enough, we all have an opinion I respect yours, it was not my intention to hijack the thread or turn it into an electric verses IC or argue with someone of your knowledge and experience, i did say I would go Electric, and it is Probably cheaper to.

I probably would question that a motor and speed controller , mechanics and a few sets of lypos are near the turbine price 3800/Euros/ $4600 ( pht3-3) but it has been a while since i purchased anything substantial, so the jury is out on that one.. but i have seen pilots use other mechanics and retro fit with some design a much more economical set of mechanics..

As to weight yeah i Know there is a 3 kilo difference between turbine and electric version of Ec120, 3 kilo in my opinion is a fair weight.

Electric motors are much more powerful and with electric you dont have to try and counteract residual thrust of a single stage turbine.
I would have electric over turbine that is despite my bad luck with lypos, some of the motors on a 3d flyers machine at my club are double the power of my WrenMW54 two stage turbine.

I have found that Lypo batteries are much cheaper now, you can get 6 cell 35-70c for £60.00 you dont need to fly top of the range stuff in my opinion like optipower.

I am sure we all stop after a flight for a bit of B/S and chat in the pits especially after a flying a turbine, ( i know i do)that's the joy of a club...

As said - the original poster was asking for opinions i gave mine as did others.. just my opinion..
I fly both... The turbine is awesome for smell and thrill factor.. but for simplicity I like electrics and the accossiated tech with it.

Keep safe all.
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