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04-29-2021 05:15 PM  14 days ago
Xterra

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Man! I hate it when I am right
All my posts in this thread were spot on last year.
Mark was rather naive. Poor soul thought COVID will magically disappear back in Nov. He also believed this year will be much better.
Darn Monday morning Epidemiologist and infectious disease experts from Google university. They only troll RR to spread false information.

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04-29-2021 07:09 PM  14 days ago
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Xterra, don't be so full of yourself !!!! you also need to edumacate yourself you ARE one of the sheep for your own good go learn some real facts love......I dream of a better world, A world where a chicken's crossing a road IS NOT questioned
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04-29-2021 07:15 PM  14 days ago
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The case against politicians simply is that when they legislate for all men, they always omit themselves
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04-29-2021 07:18 PM  14 days ago
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Helimech said..
Xterra, don't be so full of yourself !!!! you also need to edumacate yourself you ARE one of the sheep for your own good go learn some real facts love......
So all the doctors I know are un-educated because they got the covid19 vaccine ?
Give it up helimech, you are so out of date and uneducated. Copy and selectively pasting stuff doesn't make you smarter than the rest of us.
The case against politicians simply is that when they legislate for all men, they always omit themselves
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04-29-2021 08:25 PM  14 days ago
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Xterra Man! I hate it when I am right
All my posts in this thread were spot on last year.
Mark was rather naive. Poor soul thought COVID will magically disappear back in Nov. He also believed this year will be much better.
Darn Monday morning Epidemiologist and infectious disease experts from Google university. They only troll RR to spread false information.
Sounds like a cult response to me. My posts this topic. The mask is coming off soon. Get vaccinated or forever hold your peace.
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04-29-2021 09:41 PM  13 days ago
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Sorry boyz but at least half of the folk at the hospital my wife works at are NOT getting the vax and neither am i. no mask never ever !!! all the way to the bank baby !!! you poor poor sheep march in lock step if you wish, as for me and my house NOT ever...... uneducation is bliss i guess or maybe i should ware 15 or 20 masks ...yeah thats the ticket more is always better .....right.......I dream of a better world, A world where a chicken's crossing a road IS NOT questioned
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04-29-2021 11:23 PM  13 days ago
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So you're saying...

Give me liberty or give me death?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Giv...r+give+me+death
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04-30-2021 12:27 AM  13 days ago
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Ignorant responses from both Heli & Mark. No cult, I did not predict the outcome, the writing was on the wall. Sorry you did not see it Mark. You tend to miss them so no surprise there.
I also spent nearly a year working directly with COVID. I thought people would care more about each other. Sadly, that is not the case.
I will give y'all another freebie. We are gonna plateau very soon. Our efforts to vaccinate at the bare minimal 75% of the population will hit the wall. We actually need close to 85% to reach heard immunity. I just do not see how we are gonna get remotely close to that figure.
Stay tuned. Revisit the thread by the end of the fall.
Man! I hate it when I am right.
PS. Masks are not gonna be mandatory in the near future. Regardless of whether we have reached reasonable vaccination rates or not. Well, that's what I think.

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04-30-2021 01:11 AM  13 days ago
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Ignorant or not, the outcome is going to let you down. Mark Ryder
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04-30-2021 01:26 AM  13 days ago
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The outcome should have let us all down. With nearly 600k deaths we should all ask ourselves, how the hell we got here. This country should have never gotten remotely close to that number. Nonetheless, here we are. We bluntly failed. Now, we need to pick the pieces and analyze all that went wrong. We must learn the lesson and be prepared for the next mean bug. I can assure you, they will come.
Wait and see how drug resistance bacteria are taking advantage of nosocomial transmissions in the era of COVID. MDR Acinetobacter, Pseudomona and Klebsiella infections will be off the charts.
It is gonna be quite a sh!t show.

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04-30-2021 01:38 AM  13 days ago
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Exterra, what happened to the flu this year virtually no cases WOW BAAAAAAHAAAAA right you're NOT loveI dream of a better world, A world where a chicken's crossing a road IS NOT questioned
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04-30-2021 04:44 AM  13 days ago
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Helimech while I think you an Mark are severely uneducated about the covid virus, I'll still risk my life trying to save yours.
Stay safe I'm out.
Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!
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04-30-2021 04:49 AM  13 days ago
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Stay safe, I'm out.Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!
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04-30-2021 12:26 PM  13 days ago
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https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm

Far from no cases. However, I do agree, this season is a record low. The actions aimed to control COVID directly impacted influenza. Keep in mind we are not conducting active surveillance and contact tracing for most infectious agents. We just do not have the bandwidth. Importantly, during the H1N1 pandemic in 2009, which was a bad influenza season, we estimated ~12k deaths. Again, we have 600k COVID-related deaths as of now. That figure by no means is final and will increase. At this point less than 700k will be a win.
Once all the dirt settles we will start to see the "sequels". That will include all your food and blood borne pathogens along with mental health issues. Add the financial crisis and we are up for a raw awakening. Again, the writing is on the wall.
The influenza "phenomenon" reminds me the cholera story. For those that remember, in the mid 90s cholera was threatening to become a pandemic. The guidelines and control measures prevented a major international catastrophe. Interestingly, we observed record low rates for almost all other infectious agents transmitting via the oral-fecal route. Bacteria, virus and parasite infections associates with that mode of transmission were reduced significantly. Not surprisingly, blood borne pathogens were not affected and incidences for all those bugs remained within expected levels or higher.
Now, go ahead and look it up on Google. That's how Google University works. I was already working in the medical field. Cholera was literally my first rodeo.

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04-30-2021 03:40 PM  13 days ago
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Covid-19 is 99.96% survivable...I'm moving on without fear..we ALL must die one day or another and then the judgment...my God is in charge ....I'm done hereI dream of a better world, A world where a chicken's crossing a road IS NOT questioned
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04-30-2021 03:44 PM  13 days ago
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1helimech Covid-19 is 99.96% survivable...I'm moving on without fear..we ALL must die one day or another and then the judgment...my God is in charge ....I'm done here
Lol you dont believe things about covid but you beleive in a God
that makes a lot of sense
ageing is manditory maturity is optional
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04-30-2021 03:56 PM  13 days ago
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I lived thru the polio period, one of my friends lived for months in an ironlung. Then Dr. Salk created the vaccine and soon polio was a distant memory. Being vaccinated works. I suppose I am one of the millions of the "blind sheep" since I have had the 2 step vacs (Pfizer). At my age I cannot take a chance.The case against politicians simply is that when they legislate for all men, they always omit themselves
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04-30-2021 04:10 PM  13 days ago
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It is nearly impossible to change someone's mind when they refused to see the scientific information. We are not the only country dealing with this issue. More astringent control measures prevented deaths in many other parts of the world.
Medicine, vaccines, novel treatments are meant to extend our life span. I want to stick around to see my kids become responsible adults and enjoy their successes. Saying we all die is in my opinion an ignorant response. Those were preventable deaths. I sure hope we, and the rest of the world, implement the necessary measures to avoid a disaster like this from happening again. We got a little taste in 2009 and we lower our guard. COVID took full advantage of our mistakes. Add the political war between the left and right and we ended up here.
Beyond sad in my opinion.
As I mentioned in my posts last year when I was actively working with COVID. Refrigeration people should stick with fridges and freezers.
Monday morning Epidemiologist and infectious disease experts trolling RR suck. Ignorance and misinformation contributed quite a bit to our current situation. Google University can be very dangerous if not taken with caution. The only thing that should disprove science is better science.

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04-30-2021 04:30 PM  13 days ago
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I want to thank Xterra for his well thought out discussion. It is nice to hear from someone who has carefully discussed this without any name calling (something that I am guilty of).The case against politicians simply is that when they legislate for all men, they always omit themselves
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04-30-2021 04:52 PM  13 days ago
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Thanks Gyro!
I truly believe name calling is childish. Bulling, yelling and name calling do not make your statement true. We are together in this mess. I originally expected a much different attitude last year. I did not see my family for months. The long hours and little impact at the beginning of the pandemic were disheartening. When I felt like crashing I played the message by President Bush several times. I found the last part of his message incredibly powerful and I quote:
Let us remember how small our differences are in the face of this shared threat. In the final analysis, we are not partisan combatants, we are human beings, equally vulnerable and equally wonderful in the sight of God. We rise or fall together and we are determined to rise. God bless you all.
I was never a huge fan. However, his message was incredibly important -words from our leaders matter. The support from my family, my love for this country and that video helped me coped with the long hours and frustration. I felt miserable when I saw how little we care for each other during the darkest hours of the pandemic. We can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Let's hang in there a little bit longer. We are almost there guys.
Stay safe!

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