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04-26-2020 04:11 PM  39 days ago
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Heliman40

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3 helicopters inherited, which one to keep for a beginner?
So I just inherited 3 helicopters from my late father who was pretty active flying RC most of his life. He flew these regularly up to about 8 years ago and I need some advice on which direction to go. I have a .30 gas Raptor, a 450 and 500 Trex. I am sure the experts can see that they are all modified with very good components and accessories. Now I have zero experience other than 3000 hours in civil and mil helicopter flying and helicopter maintenance. So I fully understand how they work but that's it as far as RC goes and I understand little transfers to RC flying. I think I would like to keep one of these to try out and my gut says the 500 due to it being electric and a bit bigger than the 450? I have a room full of spares, parts, engines etc for all of these so keeping it running is not an issue for the time being. Just looking for some advice on which way to go as far as learning to fly one and keeping just one of these.
Thanks for any help.
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04-26-2020 04:29 PM  39 days ago
donlynn

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You'll be sweet as, have fun, the wrong rotation will get you for a start coz you'll be working the opposite front skid. a hh tail gyro will do all the hard work for you.
small steps.
pick the one that you can plenty of spares for, or leave them on the shelf until you have learnt to fly.

I'd get the ' current ' model that every one is playing with and you can get parts easily. main shafts, fly bars , frames.

Electric is going to be a LOT easier to set up and easier to get stick time. Otherwise you need to attain carb and exhaust guru status to achieve the relaxed rc chopper buzz. I learnt rc choppers with tt raptor 30 and 50 size. I got to know my visa card number by heart buying parts and new choppers. I have a small e collective pitch chopper [ fbl100 ] and it would be a better learning choice as it bounces. and you can fly inside when its blown out. My fav was shooting autos and tail first loops.
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04-26-2020 06:29 PM  39 days ago
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PM sent. I’d be glad to help a bit.Signature
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04-26-2020 06:33 PM  39 days ago
Girard Ibanez

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Get yourself a Blade 230s RTF or BNF.

You will have more fun learning and parts ready available.

I've been out of the hobby over 12 years. I have numerous helicopters from yesteryears. Didn't want to wrench, just wanted to fly.

Bought a Blade and all these fancy electronic bells and whistle and stabilization.

Once you get the learning enjoyment out of the Blade helicopter, you will be even more passionate about being connected with your Love one helicopter and enjoy of the hobby.

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since 6/2005 to 12/2014
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04-26-2020 09:14 PM  39 days ago
Rojoalfa

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Heliman40 I would like to keep one of these to try out and my gut says the 500 due to it being electric and a bit bigger than the 450? I have a room full of spares, parts, engines etc for all of these
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... To learn how to fly, I recommend the raptor 30 glow.
One flight last more than 12 minutes. So, it is the right choice.

Electric helicopter for learning?... Mmmm... You will need a bunch of battery packs.

It is quite frustrating to learn with just one battery pack. 5 minutes practicing, 30 minutes charging... No way...

Sell the 450 and keep both raptor 30 and 500.

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Saludos cordiales,
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04-27-2020 04:43 AM  38 days ago
balsabasher

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My vote is for the 500. Keep all three as the resale market on these three helis is not very strong.Blades; what goes around, comes around!
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04-27-2020 06:50 AM  38 days ago
helitom

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Keep them all. Learn with the Raptor - get a set of training gear and an experienced instructor.The older I get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.
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04-27-2020 11:35 AM  38 days ago
Rojoalfa

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balsabasher Keep all three as the resale market on these three helis is not very strong.
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You have a point here.

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Saludos cordiales,
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04-27-2020 03:31 PM  38 days ago
Heliman40

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Well learning on the gas is what my dad recommended before he passed, I have played with glow engines a bit but I am sure there's a curve here. I have his start box and some nitro laying around. I think I will sell a couple as I would rather get my kids into RC cars which were my favorite as a kid.
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04-28-2020 09:19 AM  37 days ago
donlynn

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Don't loose hope hook up with the right instructor and a bucket of cash and you'll be sweet as. Your full size hours will help heaps and you'll have the lingo down.
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04-28-2020 11:46 AM  37 days ago
Rojoalfa

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Heliman40 Well learning on the gas is what my dad recommended before he passed
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It is all said.

Take your chance!

Now... You must beging reorganizing everything.
That batteries need attention!

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Saludos cordiales,
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05-01-2020 12:08 PM  34 days ago
Heliman40

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Well I get the rest of the stuff from my fathers estate, here it is all spread out in it's entirety. Been going through everything and found a friend who can take some of the old airplane stuff he had. My big issue is figuring out which radio works for each heli and sorting the batteries out in the mentioned above.
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05-02-2020 03:20 AM  33 days ago
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I agree knowing the battery, servos and radio is reliable is vital.
my experience is with 72 meg, pre lipo [ 10 years ago equipment] so may change. You don't mention what equipment or time spent un used.

I'd charge everything up and turn it al l on and wiggle the sticks and confirm all moving correctly. I'd put a pitch gauge on the blade and confirm my pitch curves in every flight mode.

I'd load test at about 1.5~ 2 amps each on board battery via a spare slot in the rx using a heavy duty y lead to let me connect a voltmeter also. I'd discharge until 20% charge remains. I'd compare this to the cell manufacturer spec.

Doing it at the rx means the load is through all the connections. Watch out as some nimh droop under high load but you may not see it under normal testing / light load.
During the test I'd be feeling each connection on the battery [as best you can], sw, rx for warmth [or a temp gun if I cant access] any heat above ambient = poor connection.
Keep an eye on it, make sure you don't over discharge the battery, hence the 20% remaining at completion of test.
I'd do this a few times and look for trends. I'd pull all connections apart and look for corrosion using a magnifying glass and bright light.

Repeat with the tx battery, load only needs to be 1 amp to 20% remaining. I'd check the tx battery to board connection for corrosion and feel for terminal tightness.

I put my chopper on a non conductive [wood] stand n the middle of a paddock [field], fold the tail blades and line up a blade so it catches the sun and walk a full circle around it and watch the blades and tail while wiggling the sticks. Ive added [non conductive so minimal radio effect, stick and paper taped to the blade to help visually when at long range.

I try to do this tx aerial extended [ max range ] full circle after any crash.
Aerial down walk out tail pointing toward me [less distance out the back] and count the steps, holding the radio the same way & same orientation each time before each flight session.

I've also had a buddy with on a cell phone 10 m away to the side [ not behind [reflections] of the model while I work the controls to establish max range. Could prob do this with video calling on your own with two phones.

I initially do my range test out the back so worst direction for aerial optimization. if it's no good here then no point continuing.
This is only an indicator as its only in one plane. I have my rx in thick foam for vibration consideration.
Test range was always heaps more than I could see. Only time it wasn't was when I fitted a heli approved and rated flouro light string and driver, it reduced my test range by 50 % , I figured only fly close. I wrote another chopper off that day.

If I had to go through learning via internet again, I would have bought my fbl100 [100 mm main blades] collective pitch & half a doz batteries and fly 2 packs every day easily at home first and hammer that for a while until I was ok with nose in. A new mini electric chopper including tx was ~ $100, so buy two if you cant wait for the parcel. A crash on the glow chopper cost me us$100-$500 and time rebuilding.

If you are serious I'd consider buying the same chopper, radio as your nearest quality instructor who you can connect with. New standard servos & battery and learn on that first and save your Dad's for a year. Keep any new glow plugs and spare fuel filters, pumping equipment and starters.

I consulted with a doctor as I was concerned about my heart beating so violently when I was learning , his advice was get amongst it.
Hope you have a ball.
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