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05-22-2020 08:04 PM  9 months ago
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Xterra, I can appreciate your position as some type of medical professional, but this is more that a medical Pandemic. This is a political pandemic causing a rift right through our country dividing it in half. It is obvious to a blind person the democrats are perpetuating this just as far as they can. When someone is arrested in the ocean for wind surfing or a mother is arrested for playing with her child out doors it is political. When they lock the doors of restrooms and place porta-poties outside the restrooms with no way to wash your hands it is political. The democrats are making a Blatant effort to disrupt as many lives as they can. They pass a stimulus bill with soo much pork in it such as millions going to the Kennedy center it is political. When the CDC cannot figure out if we should wear masks and states they were mistaken about being mistaken it is political. Now they are saying this virus cannot be transmitted by inanimate objects and dies in the suns UV rays they shut down many parks and oceans pools it is political.

I do not have a problem with the medical aspect in fact I am traveling to NIH in Bethesda MD. next week. I am against all of the political pandemic we the American people are being subject to. it is a obvious and the nose on your face.

I have a saying when you own a backhoe, your yard is full of holes. That means when your are a medical professional all you can see is the medical side of this pandemic. Medical people are not economics majors and I am not either. BUT we cannot shut down the entire 'countries economic system' for almost a full year until the presidential election is over. I am hoping the democrats are pissing enough people off we are going to be a guaranteed to get a red wave. People are not completely stupid to see what they are doing. This is destroying more lives in the collateral damage. We are going to win the battle but lose the war in the end.
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05-22-2020 11:51 PM  9 months ago
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Agree, we can't keep the country closed. I would like to see the guys at the helm issuing guidance so we can go back to our new normality, whatever that is. Georgia seems to be doing fine. I am hoping the summer might help us a bit too.
In the meantime I am going back to do my part, that's the only thing I can control.
As I always say, Be good, be safe, have fun. Life is too damn short.
PS. I have never seen anything like this in my career. I always considered influenza a mean bug. Well, this covid thing took meanness to the Jedi level.

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05-30-2020 02:12 PM  9 months ago
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Well (It is a deep subject) I think I nailed it from the start! The Corona thing is BS! I do not have access to all of the news articles on this computer that prove my points. If you need them I will go out and find them again. The CDC admitted they were cooking the books on the numbers. They admitted they were inflating the numbers counting murdered people and the numbers of flu deaths dropped to zero. The suicide rate tripled. 30-40 million people are unemployed. Masks do nothing and the virus does not spread on hard surfaces. The deaths in NY are attributed to moving CV patients into nursing homes. The death rate in Texas is .005%. Hospitals are closing due to lack of patients. The death rate in children is 0 / 100,000

The WHO has now been defunded for being a political hack for the Chinese communist party. We were contributing 450M to the WHO when China was contributing 40M. The CV task force has been shown to be guessing on every thing what was predicted like the death rate being 4.0% when in reality is just a fraction of that. They kept changing their minds on how to navigate what turned out to be a political pandemic.

Now do not get me wrong people do die and the medical professionals (You know who you are) have been exposed to it on a daily basis, still need to take cautions. Would I want to work there NO! (But I did work in the petrochemical market and many people died in my line of work and I had draconian safety measures, I had to take every single day I went to work) And still do. I had to wear a hard hat, steel toed boots, FRC clothing, wear monogoggles, carry a respirator and an 5 min emergency escape bottle. for 8-16 hours a day. (I also had to wear hearing protection, but still lost my hearing)

This (political pandemic) is going to go down in history as the single greatest farce ever pulled on the American public. I think it will be viewed as a test to see how many Constitutional Rights can be taken away from the American public. Every day some politician tries to stretch the imagination of stupidity, such and putting yellow barrier tape across a swing set and jungle gym and sent police out to arrest the group of family's that removed it. The officer in the video has a tat "WE THE PEOPLE" Hitler needed many of the cops we have today! We have always said when(Not if) the SHTF the police will have common sense and not enforce illegal laws. This theory has been disproven in the past few months seeing a mother put in hand cuffs in front of her daughter at an empty play ground for violating an illegal stay at home order. Mind you not a law, a directive (Big difference)

If you may notice the CV pandemic has been cured apparently in the past 3 days by looters not wearing face masks or social distancing in the news media.

I used to think I lived in the greatest country in the world ever, due to the number of people that tried to break into it every year trying to support their families. But then politicians arrest, fine and put in jail a nail salon owner that is just trying to support her family, or take away a barbers license from a 78 year old barber.

This country has turned completely up-side-down and is full of sheeple that are afraid to walk around without a mask to protect them from a political pandemic. Masks first of all do nothing for the general public medically and absolutely nothing politically.

It turns out I could have saved this entire country 3 months of heartache by buying every Man, Woman & child a set of ear plugs.
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05-30-2020 02:24 PM  9 months ago
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
only problem with the First amendment is that any crackpot can spew misinformation
ageing is manditory maturity is optional
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05-31-2020 01:24 PM  9 months ago
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You are absolutely correct about free speech & IDIOTS absorbing the spewed misinformation
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05-31-2020 03:38 PM  9 months ago
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We still have been registering more than 1000 deaths per day. CDC was not "cooking" data. Some local public state labs were not distinguishing between serological and molecular testing. CDC collects data provided locally and publish it. The total count is affected but it is Significantly underestimated to begging with. Regardless, that is a big mistake. The number of deaths and severe cases is not affected though. I agree the response from the task force has been far from perfect. We were just not well prepared for this thingy. Nobody in the world was. This is not an issue affecting ol' USA exclusively. Countries like Peru, Spain and Italy implemented much more aggressive control measures. Main stream news are only following the new big thing. In this country we are still fighting COVID, Influenza, Hepatitis among many others regardless of what you see in the new. Just because it is not in the news, it does not mean we are not fighting Ebola and Polio outside the States.
Pilots and refrigeration people (you know who you are) do not make good Epidemiologists or Economists. As I always say, mean bugs look pretty harmless from your armchair. Monday morning Epidemiologists are a dime a dozen

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06-06-2020 08:45 PM  8 months ago
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I am a front line medical professional, a good friend of mine has been working as a volunteer (unpaid) er doctor in New York for 4 weeks during part of April and may. Anyone who says the covid 19 is fake is an idiot. Death rate in New York if a person gets it who’s over 70 and on a vent is 90%
Thanks to all the protesters and party folks and others without masks and those people who think its a “fake virus” and do nothing to stop the spread of this thing I’m sure we will get a second surge.
Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!
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06-07-2020 02:25 PM  8 months ago
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Classic, Do other people ever die in your hospital of non-CV? Do people over 70 ever die in your hospital? Do people die of the flu in your hospital? Do you understand almost 3m people die in this country every year.

We have never said people do not die of CV. You as medical professional should already know this, and working in NY you are at the epicenter of CV unfortunately. It is not my fault NY decided to close most of their hospitals and were overloaded by CV patients which were eventually transferred to nursing homes which KILL OFF many that should not have died. A decision by your governor. If you add up the deaths nation wide it is almost equal to the 3 states surrounding NYC NY, NJ, & MA. Because your epicenter of your world has a problem with over crowding doesn't mean the rest of the country has a problem. Sweden did not shut down and their death rate is comparable to the US. All of these facts have come out since this political pandemic came up. I am sorry I did not reference the news storied but you are smart enough to look them up yourself. In Texas the death rate from CV is .005% and the stupid governor which is a republican still will not open the state 100%. There are soo many sheeple following this BS. Yesterday is saw a man riding a bicycle on a deserted street wearing a Fing mask.

Do not call me an IDIOT for not believing people die from this political pandemic but this has turned into a farce. The expert that predicted the millions & millions of deaths was proven wrong on the first pandemic, then doubled down on this one and has been proven wrong again. He should be taken out a "Tarred & Feathered" I have a saying "When you own a backhoe, your yard is full of holes" that is like you cannot see the forest for all of the trees.

Bottom line do people die from this? Yes. Should we have shut down the country F-NO! This is going to viewed in years and the biggest farce ever perpetrated on the America public in the history of the nation! Nancy, "The political pandemic is fading out, release the rioters" We have 5 months before the election and the dimwits are not done, wait for the next one to be released. The rioters cannot last 5 more months
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06-07-2020 02:29 PM  8 months ago
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Did you see the news broadcast that said we still have to SD, wear masks and all of the other BS for all of the general public, but that (Literally) does not pertain to the protesters. (I wish I could find the pic but it wound not phase you) I saw a pic of 200,000 protesters walking down a street thinking the CV took a holiday, for that period of time.
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06-07-2020 03:54 PM  8 months ago
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Jerry.. That mindset seems to be global (except probably South America who's getting their arses kicked right now). With this attitude Covid-19 will NEVER go away.. At 66, I've become a Hermit (almost).. Where can I go where its safe?? Over here, we don't get the elbow room you guys do.

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06-07-2020 05:10 PM  8 months ago
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So what I am hearing during flu season you hibernated in your home so you would not catch it. I think that is a excellent idea and I hope you never catch the flu (Which has not been eradicated in over 100 years. READ MY LIPS. CV is real, and people die from it, unfortunately. Continue reading. Secondly when this first arrived we did not know what we were up against. We all sheltered in place, we did, but now that some of the facts are coming out. It is nothing like what was predicted! At that point adults would admit their mistakes and move on but not 50% of the governors or people. A blind man can see how this group is continuing to dive the plane into the earth even after the engines have been restarted.

Look that the 0 -21 group they are Zero per 100,000 read that ZERO. but yet schools are still closed. Why are they not back in for summer classes. BECAUSE the pilot is still diving the plane at the ground.
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06-07-2020 05:18 PM  8 months ago
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WHY did you NEVER hear about the homeless CV problem, They live in filth and close contact with each other. I never heard one story about how they were dying in mass. How about all of the grieving people could not attend a funeral of a loved one or visit in the nursing home (My FIL is in a nursing home) How about the 40 positive tests that came from a nursing home, to be retested to find out ALL were false positives. And now there is going to be a funeral in Houston for a person very few knew and there are going to be 200,000 people marching arm-in-arm. I can see blatant STUPID ISM when I see it.

I will finish up people die of CV.
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06-08-2020 01:31 AM  8 months ago
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This is from the Washington Times a Liberal rag if I have ever seen one that substantiates what I have been posting for the past 2 months.

CV is a hoax in the general terms. Do people die? YES! Before you come back at me whining but people are dying.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/...Iqsf3XYEkgF3YxM
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06-08-2020 12:35 PM  8 months ago
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I also want to add that the authors of the medical study of the dangers of Hydroxychloroquine were found to be FICTION WRITTERS. The whole study was found to be bogus.
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06-08-2020 02:51 PM  8 months ago
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Jerry,
you like putting words in other peoples mouths, I never said people aren't dying of other illnesses. And I never said I worked in NY, my friend does. I work for a hospital in the Midwest that has not been overwhelmed like NY was.
My point is, which you seem to ignore, is that CV19 is a powder keg that if it ever "goes off" the U.S could have a much worse situation on its hands then what NY did, it could very easy overwhelm the health care system.
Do I agree with you that the U.S does not have enough hospitals, Yes!
I don't want to see the hospitals overwhelmed in the U.S like they were in Italy.
Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!
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06-08-2020 02:51 PM  8 months ago
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Jerry K I also want to add that the authors of the medical study of the dangers of hydroxychloroquine were found to be FICTION WRITTERS
Jerry... Are you saying this stuff might work against Covid??
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06-08-2020 02:57 PM  8 months ago
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Jerry K I also want to add that the authors of the medical study of the dangers of Hydroxychloroquine were found to be FICTION WRITTERS. The whole study was found to be bogus.
considering the drug was invented in 1955
I think the medical experts know more than you an the other Trumpeteers
That are spouting off about this drug

If this drug was so great dont you think the Doctors that are not left wing libs would say so

You really believe this crap your spewing that its a big conspiracy by the left to do what ?

kill all of there old left wing voting friends and relatives also while taking out some old right wing voters

You need to stop and think about all this stuff a LOT more

I vote Republican but I dont believe 25% of the crap that your spewing
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06-08-2020 04:18 PM  8 months ago
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I am not spouting off about the drug and I do not know if it is effective. I just reported the study on the dangers was written by a fiction writer. I also wanted to point out I do not believe people die, they do I am pointing out the sky is not falling, chicken littles. Taking off for DC gotta go
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06-08-2020 09:59 PM  8 months ago
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^^^^^^^^
Your claim is false. All authors listed on both papers in Lancet and NEJM are MDs:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scien...1806?via%3Dihub

The company, Surgisphere, is not providing their sources for their database so it could be peer reviewed. As a result, the entire study was voluntarily withdrawn by all authors (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/...1324-6/fulltext) with the exemption of Sapan Desai (CEO Surgisphere). That's how science works, other groups will eventually find out if your reports have merit. All the authors from those two papers will be severely criticized by the scientific community. They will lose their affiliations and better start looking for a second career. I am actually surprised Didier, the senior author from the first paper describing the use of HC for COVID, still has a job. Anyways, non-scientist (you know who you are), only read Yahoo or similar sources instead of the actual papers published in the corresponding scientific-medical journal.
HC will not be the solution for COVID, that is clear:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/324...+bmj&from_pos=2

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/324...+bmj&from_pos=3

The Lancet and NEJM papers only delayed the findings. What it is sad is that WHO stopped their trials based on those manuscripts. I hope the authors of the papers are terminated by their institutions asap.
Again, refrigeration people do not make good MD, scientists or Epidemiologist. Better stick to freezers and fridges I guess.
PS. On homeless population:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?te...ess+coronavirus

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06-08-2020 10:08 PM  8 months ago
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QUOTE : Again, refrigeration people do not make good MD, scientists or Epidemiologist. Better stick to freezers and fridges I guess.

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