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04-08-2020 03:41 PM  15 months ago
wjvail

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banshee rider The who would be us American citizens
At the moment, I'm waiting to see if he corrects me and points out that the 2,000 deaths yesterday was a global number and not US domestic.
Pretty simple
No. Not simple. Not simple at all.
The why would be to prevent unneeded deaths
Using 2015 numbers, 56 million people die globally annually. Dividing by 364, somewhere around 150,000 people die daily. So yesterday 2,000 people died and 1.3% of them had the flu. Is that out of the ordinary?
banshee rider but by all of your posts on this subject
I would say that your looking for some other nefarious reason
that doesnt exist except in the TIN FOIL Hat REGIMES
Again, no. No tinfoil here. Thank you very little for asking.

If you notice, I'm not telling you anything. I'm asking open-ended questions. If you see something nefarious, it's because you don't like the answers you come up with. If there is a nefarious reason, I'm willing to listen. If not, I need to know that too. I'm trying to understand why the world has utterly stopped.
banshee rider And even if you do come up with something that fits whatever theory that suits you
then what?
you going to start a revolution ?
Hmm... I'm trying to learn what there is to learn. At the moment I don't have a "theory". I have questions. Do you think a revolution would be required?

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04-08-2020 04:18 PM  15 months ago
banshee rider

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LOL wjvail

I am not going be PC
Your full of S^&*
You can side step it
You can dance all around it
You can choose your words very carefully
You can try to justify all these posts however you want

But the bottom line is your looking for some grand scheme of some kind
by someone or a group of someones

It is so obvious even Ray Charles could see it

I am done here
ageing is manditory maturity is optional
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04-08-2020 06:52 PM  15 months ago
Al Austria

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04-08-2020 07:07 PM  15 months ago
Al Austria

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Xterra is correct.

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04-08-2020 07:12 PM  15 months ago
Al Austria

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Yesterday, 7,300+ people(worldwide) died due to COVID-19

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04-08-2020 07:27 PM  15 months ago
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... and just getting started.
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04-08-2020 07:30 PM  15 months ago
wjvail

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banshee rider LOL wjvail
I hardly think this is funny, but if I amuse you, so be it. You don't think I care do you?
banshee rider I am not going be PC
Your full of S^&*
You can side step it
You can dance all around it
You can choose your words very carefully
You can try to justify all these posts however you want

But the bottom line is your looking for some grand scheme of some kind
by someone or a group of someones

It is so obvious even Ray Charles could see it
You believe what you want. For those following along, these are not my thoughts or words. I am not "looking for some grand scheme of some kind..." These are someone else's rantings. I'm looking for understanding and knowledge.
banshee rider I am done here
You haven't added anything of value to the conversation. You have only thrown out supposition and insults. As you can imagine, I won't be sorry to see you go.
"Well, nothing bad can happen now."
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04-09-2020 02:16 AM  15 months ago
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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/201...ases-in-us.html

This is really sad. I never thought I would see an event like this in USA, let alone the world.
I do not even know what are we discussing here anymore. Wj you aren't flying anywhere on April. Be thankful if you come back to work in May. This is coming all from the top. The prez is not happy, but the timeline is up to the virus. We can only stay home and hope he goes away while we get our act together. Without a vaccine or an effective therapy we are going nowhere. And please, for all that is holly, do not get me started with the chloroquine story.
I am grabbing another drink. Too many hours in the shop today, I am out of steam.

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04-09-2020 02:57 AM  15 months ago
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Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience
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04-09-2020 03:09 AM  15 months ago
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https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-re...1-pandemic.html

You can compare the numbers CDC estimated for the influenza 2009 event. I hope that suffice to clarify your questions

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04-09-2020 03:19 AM  15 months ago
Al Austria

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6,400+ deaths worldwide due to COVID-19 today:

1,900+ deaths in the US due to COVID-19 today:

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04-09-2020 03:42 AM  15 months ago
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wjvail But assuming the 2,000 number is correct, is that in addition to the 7,700 Americans that statistically die everyday? Are you saying 9,700 died Americans died yesterday? Or are you saying the typical 7,700 Americans died yesterday and 26% had the flu?

Going on, I need to know more about the 2,000 that you suggest died yesterday. I need to know who they were and how they lived. We have decimated our society and economy. I need to know why and for whom.
(inside the USA) that is how many here feel, was it really the Corona that did the job,
it went from 3000 to 6000 in like 2 or 3 days, then 3 days later it was up to 10,000.

we may be wrong up here but we don't see it working like that
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04-09-2020 04:03 AM  15 months ago
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Gearhead (inside the USA) that is how many here feel, was it really the Corona that did the job,
it went from 3000 to 6000 in like 2 or 3 days, then 3 days later it was up to 10,000.
Those day to day growth rates within the US(i.e. ~1,000-1,333 new deaths per day)appear consistent with what data has been showing.

Daily new deaths in the US:

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04-09-2020 03:44 PM  15 months ago
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We all know death is sad. Of the 2000 that have died in the past 3 mo how many would have contributed to the 700,000 that would have died in the same 3 mo period? I am a numbers guy, 2.8M die every year of non-corona. So if 700,000 in 3 mo and 2,000 have died of Corona where is the problem. Are these numbers lying to us.
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04-09-2020 04:00 PM  15 months ago
Al Austria

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Jerry K Of the 2000 that have died in the past 3 mo
In the US, ~15,000 people have died due to COVID-19 in less than 1 month:
Jerry K Are these numbers lying to us.
It's data, it has no motives.
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04-09-2020 06:22 PM  15 months ago
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They didn't die in Houston! So what is your proposal? Do you realize our economy is a huge Domino field. Once it begins falling there will be NO stopping it. Our economy is built on $$$ and if this goes no tooo much longer the US is going to collapse and tyranny is going to follow. You think 2000 deaths is a problem wait until a segment of the US begins rioting & looting death will follow. Watch some of the movies made about what it will look like. Escape from New York can be reality. I do not have much empathy for people that want to live like ants.

Our society was difficult enough to live in and it will not take much to set the masses off. Think in the future, we cannot take tooo much more of this because once it begins there will be no stopping it.

Our economy is built on oil also. O&G took a death blow, without it the economy will collapse also. This is a double whammy. If Exxon & Chevron cannot make money they will shut down the refinery's. I work in O&G Chemicals I know how the chemical plants work. Every single chemical plant is linked to another plant or refinery. It looks like a spider web and when one shuts down 6 more shut down behind it. Talk about bad for the country this is another domino field intertwined into the US economy.

The question is when will this end? You, the 'sky is falling shut down the economy people', because 2000 people have died will see the end result unless we get back to work!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just talked with one small business owner and he is asking for a 50K forgivable loan. Multiply that by 1M and where is all this money going to come from??? You think taxes are bad now wait for the 60% tax rate to cone in the next few years.
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04-09-2020 06:33 PM  15 months ago
Al Austria

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Jerry K They didn't die in Houston!
OK
Jerry K So what is your proposal? Do you realize our economy is a huge Domino field. Once it begins falling there will be NO stopping it. Our economy is built on $$$ and if this goes no tooo much longer the US is going to collapse and tyranny is going to follow. You think 2000 deaths is a problem wait until a segment of the US begins rioting & looting death will follow. Watch some of the movies made about what it will look like. Escape from New York can be reality. I do not have much empathy for people that want to live like ants.
Our society was difficult enough to live in and it will not take much to set the masses off. Think in the future, we cannot take tooo much more of this because once it begins there will be no stopping it.
Our economy is built on oil also. O&G took a death blow, without it the economy will collapse also. This is a double whammy. If Exxon & Chevron cannot make money they will shut down the refinery's. I work in O&G Chemicals I know how the chemical plants work. Every single chemical plant is linked to another plant or refinery. It looks like a spider web and when one shuts down 6 more shut down behind it. Talk about bad for the country this is another domino field intertwined into the US economy.
The question is when will this end? You, the 'sky is falling shut down the economy people', because 2000 people have died will see the end result unless we get back to work!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just talked with one small business owner and he is asking for a 50K forgivable loan. Multiply that by 1M and where is all this money going to come from??? You think taxes are bad now wait for the 60% tax rate to cone in the next few years.
I'm just relaying the data, everyone can interpret it however they desire.

For reference:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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04-09-2020 06:42 PM  15 months ago
Jerry K

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I don't need you to relay the data I can surf myself. I know the data as well as you .

You didn't answer the hard question! WHAT is your proposal???

I explained what will happen if we do not shut down this farce. There will not be anything left to wake up to.
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04-09-2020 07:28 PM  15 months ago
Al Austria

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Jerry K You didn't answer the hard question! WHAT is your proposal???
This is an easy question. The answer is that I DON'T have a proposal for the actions that we should take to maximize the preservation of both the economy, as well as human life. I recognize that I am too dumb to solve that.

I only intend to relay the data so that everyone feels empowered to form their own opinions and can take the actions they deem most appropriate, regardless of whether or not they align with my position on the matter.
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04-09-2020 08:16 PM  15 months ago
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Where are the hourly death tolls on the 50k suicide deaths this country experiences every year? Do we as a society not care about those people that have problems dealing with life? I know more people that have died from suicide than Corona. That bothers me much more.

This is a media farce to the ninth degree and all of the sheeple are falling head over heals for it.
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