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12-26-2019 07:25 PM  7 months ago
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FAA and the Amazon people
Just a thought......
Received the latest "Heads up" from the FAA regarding Remote ID.
Sounds like something we will have to buy from someone to keep doing what it is that we do. It makes me mad that the FAA wants to do all of this stuff to us fun fliers with all of this regulated crap and they disrespect all of us who spend time building helicopters or planes by labeling them as DRONES!!!! I feel that it is Amazon who is really stirring the pot here. I'm sure some of you have seen the posts regarding Amazon's intent with their airspace operating requirements. They don't care about us because we are small and have no money. They want all the airspace not used by full size aircraft so they can fill it with delivery drones!
I am not a liberal, but I think all that would be needed here would be some perceived slight against birds, insects or both. PETA could be our friends her folks! Sorry if I offended anyone with my half baked rant!
Except you AMAZON!!!!
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12-26-2019 09:24 PM  7 months ago
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Goober1228, Today's FAA notice reads:

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"We want YOU to read and comment on the Remote ID Proposal

Get ready for the next exciting step in safe drone integration! The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has issued the proposed rule for remote identification of drones.

With nearly 1.5 million drones and 155,000 remote pilots registered with the FAA, the ability to provide identification and location is essential to keeping drones safely separated from other aircraft operating in our airspace.

We encourage drone enthusiasts, and anyone interested in aviation safety, to read our Notice of Proposed Rulemaking now in the Federal Register. In the next few days, a 60-day comment period will open to receive your feedback which can help us develop a final rule that enhances safety and security in our nation’s skies.

“Drones are the fastest growing segment of transportation in our nation and it is vitally important that they are safely integrated into the national airspace,” said U.S. Transportation Secretary Elaine L. Chao.
“As a pilot, my eye is always on safety first,” said FAA Administrator Steve Dickson. “Safety is a joint responsibility between government, pilots, the drone community, the general public and many others who make our nation so creative and innovative.”

Equipping drones with remote identification technologies would build on previous steps taken by the FAA and the UAS industry to safely integrate operations, including the small UAS rule, which covers drones weighing less than 55 pounds other than model aircraft, and the Low Altitude Authorization and Notification Capability (LAANC), which automates the application and approval process for drone operators to obtain airspace authorizations.

These efforts are the foundation for more complex operations, such as beyond visual line of sight at low altitudes, as we move toward a traffic management ecosystem for drone flights separate from, but complementary to, our air traffic management system.

The proposed Remote I.D. rule would apply to all drones that are required to register with the FAA (recreational drones weighing under 0.55 pounds are not required to register), as well as to people who operate foreign civil drone in the United States."
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FAA notice states that model aircraft are excluded from remote ID as noted above.
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12-26-2019 10:36 PM  7 months ago
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"With nearly 1.5 million drones and 155,000 remote pilots registered"

I call BS on this figure.
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12-27-2019 12:16 AM  7 months ago
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BeltFedBrowning 155,000 remote pilots registered
part 107
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12-27-2019 12:32 PM  7 months ago
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Model aircraft are excluded from this list but my fear in this regard is that these regulations and requirements appear to be in the liquid state and could be subject to change in the future.
Maybe this is apples to oranges but if you folks follow John Salt (RC Helicopterfun.com), Canada has imposed draconian rule when it comes to flying . According to him, Canada's version of the faa group all model /utility unmanned aircraft together so the only flying going on there takes place in the hand full of club fields which exist up there. John's recent youtoube video highlights this fact. He claims he can't fly any of his birds unless he travels 250km or something like that.
I couldn't imagine it getting that bad here but we should all look at Canada as the worst case scenario.
This is the end of my half baked rant.
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12-27-2019 01:16 PM  7 months ago
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Recreational hobby sUAS without Remote ID will only be allowed at CBO club flying area approved by the FAA

https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-ins.../2019-28100.pdf

https://www.faa.gov/news/press_rele...fm?newsId=24534
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12-27-2019 06:05 PM  7 months ago
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Thanks for the links, after reading the rules I am understanding this much better, guess we just have to see where all of this goes.
Sounds like an opportunity for money to be made for manufacturers of transmitters and or flybarless units and controllers to integrate this remote identify technology as there will be a need for producers and monitors of said technology.
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12-27-2019 10:12 PM  7 months ago
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Dec. 27, 2018 AMA statement to FAA's ID Proposed rule:

https://contentsharing.net/actions/...PdqPVRFHehnhUD1

ACADEMY OF MODEL AERONAUTICS
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The largest model aviation association in the world!

Dear Members,

On Thursday, December 26, the FAA released its proposed rule on remote identification (remote ID) in the Federal Register. AMA is still reviewing the 319-page notice of proposed rulemaking; however, an early read indicates that we were successful in efforts to shape the proposed rule including not requiring onboard equipage for our members at our flying sites. We will continue to advocate for our members and the hobby by addressing the concerns in the proposal. We will share our full analysis in the coming days.

When the FAA announced plans to remotely identify unmanned aircraft a few years ago, the Academy immediately began advocating on behalf of our members, including shaping decisions during the 2017 Remote ID Aviation Rulemaking Committee. AMA recommended a common-sense approach to remote ID that would be quick, cost-effective and easy for the recreational UAS community to comply.

Please keep in mind that this is a proposed rule, not a final rule. While AMA was successful in shaping elements of the proposed rule, we will continue to address unnecessary burdens for both manufacturers and the recreational community in the final rule and during implementation. AMA will soon ask our members to participate in the process by providing comments to the FAA.

The FAA will begin reviewing comments and feedback in March 2020. The comment review process could take weeks or months to complete before FAA publishes a final rule and begins the lengthy implementation process. We encourage members to look for future communications from AMA for the most current information regarding this proposed rule.
In the meantime, you can read Frequently Asked Questions on our blog. As always, please contact AMA Government Affairs at (765)287-1256 or amagov@modelaircraft with any questions. You can read the entire proposed rule and FAA's announcement here.

Thank you,
Academy of Model Aeronautics

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Tel.: (800) 435-9262; Fax.: (765) 289-4248 — All rights reserved.
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01-03-2020 07:03 PM  7 months ago
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Radio controlled helicopters by nature are in compliance with proposed flying constraints. The current requirements for operating rc helicopters are in my opinion, enough. We pay a fee to get a tail number which also provides the FAA with our personal info. We would pay fines if we were reported flying unregistered aircraft. As it is now, the FAA suggests membership to FAA approved clubs to fly only (not necessary). My problem is that I perceive a forfeiture of "Free Airspace".
If I live far enough from from an airport and have acres of my land to fly my helicopters and comply with current FAA requirements (and not creating a disturbance), This should be enough! If you had something as small as a 300 size heli, you gotta shell out $$$ for an annual club membership? Come on man! I don't see future introduction into the hobby in the future to be very cheap with all of this garbage! I fear RC Helicopters are not properly regarded into what the FAA is trying to scope. So now is the time to pitch our concerns to the FAA regarding the new RESTRICTIONS.
I feel the sloppy clumsy hands of big government ruining our little niche!
If you fly planes or drones, I feel for all of you!
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01-29-2020 08:05 AM  6 months ago
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Equipping drones with remote identification technologies would build on previous steps taken by the FAA and the UAS industry to safely integrate operations, including the small UAS rule, which covers drones weighing less than 55 pounds other than model aircraft, and the Low Altitude Authorization and Notification Capability (LAANC), which automates the application and approval process for drone operators to obtain airspace authorizations.

I don’t see the exclusion of model aircraft on the official FAA press release:

https://www.faa.gov/news/press_rele...fm?newsId=24534
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01-29-2020 03:03 PM  6 months ago
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In few years from now, having successfully imposed remote identification on everything over 6 ounces and over 6" off the ground, will the powers that be impose a requirement for a remote kill switch?

I can envision a time when the federal government is able to look at a website that displays a blur of billion airborne moving objects. That is remote identification. Very nice. But how long will it take them to notice it'd be nice to be able to disable or otherwise act on those dots moving around? Seeing everything is fine but sooner or later they'll notice it isn't enough. Almost certainly a "drone" will end up where it shouldn't be. The FAA will make the case that identifying something on their site doesn't mean anything if they can't do anything about it. The cry will go out, "For the safety of the American public, we must have not just remote identification but also remote ACTION"!
"Well, nothing bad can happen now."
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01-29-2020 04:59 PM  6 months ago
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I agree with you, and this can be a concern. The government can be sloppy with their "blanket" approach to everything. Then couple it with the fact that RC helicopter's popularity has dramatically faded from the public eye,
I fear that our interests will fall through the cracks.
We don't want what happened to our friend John Salt (RC Helicopter Fun) and the draconian flight rules imposed upon him by the Canadian government!!!
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01-29-2020 06:15 PM  6 months ago
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Goober1228 We don't want what happened to our friend John Salt (RC Helicopter Fun) and the draconian flight rules imposed upon him by the Canadian government!!!
I was unfamiliar with John's troubles. I had to Google it. I suppose you are referencing something like the below vid.?.? This video is a few years old. Is there more to read somewhere else? I believe I found his website but I didn't immediately see if he has found a solution to his restrictions.

Watch at YouTube

https://www.rchelicopterfun.com/
"Well, nothing bad can happen now."
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01-30-2020 12:39 PM  6 months ago
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I Have contacted John Salt and He sent me a response. See next post.
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02-05-2020 02:22 PM  6 months ago
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After contacting John Salt (RC Helicopter Fun), He kindly responded with some sobering stuff:
"As for the RC regulations up here in the great white north; it's a mixed
up joke! Not quite as bad as what the FAA is now proposing with
electronic ID transponders on all RC aircraft; it's more like the UK BS
where EVERY RC aircraft we fly (above the 250g weight limit), requires
individual registration, identification, documentation, and a competency
test to be taken online. So if you have 20 models, you have to spend a
good deal of money to register each one and keep detailed logs for each
one for every flight and all maintenance, just as if they were full size
aircraft. If you replace a servo or re-pack the thrust bearings in your
tail rotor, Transport Canada by strict interpretation of their nonsense,
wants it documented."
This part really bothers me:
"The other big issue is the online registration process only lists
popular "drones" in their list of RC models that can be registered,
while plane, glider & heli fliers are left way out in left field. This
leaves little doubt where their focus is. Public air safety is not even
on Transport Canada's radar. They only care to cash in on the "drone"
craze and more likely, the 0 to 300 ft AGL airspace for future
commercial UAV services."
"The online competency test which I thought would be a good idea if done
correctly, has also turned out to be a joke. The biggest problem is it
has very little to do with RC aircraft, RC systems knowledge and RC
aircraft safety concepts like you find in any AMA or MAAC flying club
test. It's instead very much a copy and past of the test I took to get
my ultralight flying licence over a decade ago. Lots of questions on
weather and full size aviation radio communication protocol. Lots on the
principles of flight as well which is good, but almost all related to
full size aircraft. The little bit that is RC topic related is focused
toward quad/multi-rotors while stressing line of sight flight."

This is an example of how one country deals with it's hobby interests.
Hopefully our country will not approach it in a similar fashion.
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02-05-2020 03:16 PM  6 months ago
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https://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/...ocs/en/3197.htm

It seems that MA used by members of the MAAC in Canada are given exemptions to the drone laws.

“Those who want to operate model aircraft and who are not MAAC members can do so, but must follow the new rules by taking the online pilot exam and registering their model aircraft with TC.“
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02-06-2020 03:18 PM  6 months ago
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This concurs with what John has said as well, no remote ID, just registration and certification for vehicles flown at approved airfields (Hobby).
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