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12-17-2019 03:57 PM  71 days ago
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wjvail

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What's Going On With JR These Days?
Just wondering... In another discussion about servos, the name JR came up. It got me wondering, where is JR these days? In the below thread we discussed JR ProPo discontinuing business. Oddly enough the JR name still pops up and it seems you can still buy JR branded products. Are they out of business or not? Was it only JR America that discontinued the devlopment of JR, or did JR Japan close. In short - What's going on with Japan Radio?

https://rc.runryder.com/t825199p1/
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12-17-2019 08:13 PM  70 days ago
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They are here, https://www.deeforce.net/. The jist I got was that some of the engineers went to the new company that is no longer called JR Radio. Everything still seems to be available through them with a different name.
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12-20-2019 02:14 PM  68 days ago
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dschertz They are here, https://www.deeforce.net/. The jist I got was that some of the engineers went to the new company that is no longer called JR Radio. Everything still seems to be available through them with a different name.
Thank you for the reply. I've been doing some snooping around in an effort to see if I could find more detail.

You directly gave me the link to deeforce but Googleing JR pulls up that site pretty near the top.

From their website I pulled the below:
The History of DFA and RC Depot

RC Depot (Konishi Mokei Co., LTD), has work alongside with JR PROPO for many years. RC Depot began Dee Force Aviation (DFA) brand almost 10 years ago.

Initially, RC Depot started providing support and repair for JR PROPO products for consumers in Japan. Soon after this, RC Depot began to supply other products worldwide, and in 2016 we entered a licensed agreement with JR PROPO to manufacture JR PROPO products. This product line consisted of receivers, servos, transmitters and accessories for JR PROPO at the former JR PROPO Malaysian factory.

In early 2017 RC Depot began to develop new receivers, and servos utilizing both former JR PROPO engineers as well as new engineers in Japan.

In December of 2017, JR PROPO of Japan filed for bankruptcy, not long after, the Japanese courts from Osaka District gave an order to RC Depot not to use the brand name, JR PROPO.

Because of these events, we had decided to start using our own "DFA" label to comply with the court orders against JR PROPO brand name in March 2018.

In April 2018, RC Depot successfully purchased the JR PROPO trademarks and intellectual properties along with complete engineering drawings. RC Depot now refers to the DFA brand as “JR/DFA.”

The future is bright, and the legacy of JR PROPO endures thru DFA.
It seems JR has gone through considerable changes since this notice:
Notice of Discontinuation of JR Production April 5, 2018

Dear loyal JR Customer:

We regret to inform you that all production of JR Propo branded and engineered product has ended.

Like many other RC manufacturers of late, JR Propo Japan experienced significant financial issues starting in 2017. In an effort to sustain the brand, JR made the decision to license JR Propo products to be manufactured by Konishi Mokei Company of Japan.

While JR Japan’s intent was for this move to separate the JR brand from their financial issues so the brand could continue and thrive, due to a combination of legal actions as well as recent decisions in brand direction made by the new manufacture, JR Propo branded products will no longer be manufactured using the JR Propo name, or to the previous stringent JR design specifications.

Although Konishi Mokei has offered for JR Americas to carry their re-branded, re-engineered products, our experience working with Konishi Mokei since obtaining JR production rights has been less than satisfactory, nor is it one that we are comfortable in perpetuating.

During our time of business with Konishi Mokei, several instances occurred that have unfortunately caused our company to have a loss of confidence with regards to their business ethics, methods, and practices.

In addition, due to manufacturing and component supplier changes, specifications and material changes on newly produced products have caused many of these products in some cases to vary significantly from the original JR designs, also creating a cause for concern.

The “made in Japan” level of quality that most JR users have come to expect is simply no more now that production has been moved outside of Japan on key items.

Although many products continue to look like JR manufactured products with new labeling, we have concerns about the changes in components and design, combined with a lack of professional, long term testing.

We feel the products currently being developed and manufactured by Konishi Mokei will likely not meet the previous level of performance and quality as required by both JR, and their customers.

Please know that our company and staff are still committed to the support of our JR customers, and we have inventory on many key JR branded, JR manufactured products. We will continue to offer these products through the JR Americas website as stock allows.

Moving forward, we are pleased to announce that we will soon be announcing several additional new product brands. We believe these new product offerings will offer comparable substitutes for many currently unavailable JR products. We believe these products will be well accepted by our current and future customers.

Servicing of JR products will also continue business as usual, and we believe we can continue to keep our loyal JR customers “feeling the difference” for many years to come.

We thank you for your many years of commitment and loyalty to the JR brand, and we will continue to service and support JR as well as other exciting brands of products moving forward.

Best Regards

JR Americas.
http://www.jramericas.com/news_feed.php?#newsid69
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01-29-2020 08:06 PM  27 days ago
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I fly only DFA/JR Prop the T44 is the XG11 DFA is trying to get the JR name back on top they also bought out Carden Aircraft so they still have stuff in store! DFA services the XG11 and a lot more of the JR products line!xcell fury extreme/t-rex 450 sa
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01-30-2020 12:22 AM  27 days ago
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fergplane ...DFA is trying to get the JR name back on top they also bought out Carden Aircraft...
I hadn't heard the Caroline and Dennis had sold their business. I built a Carden CAP232 30% years ago. I still fly it. Nice kit. Dated by today's standards but still a joy to fly. I have a 3W-70B2 installed and it's my opinion that's one of the best engines I've ever known.

Anyway. Back to JR.

Here's a link:
https://www.carden-aircraft.com/
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01-30-2020 06:27 PM  27 days ago
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I think "marriage" Spektrum - JR was one of causes of this problem.

It was not a good choice.
Bad idea!

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Saludos cordiales,
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01-30-2020 07:37 PM  27 days ago
Badgerfarm

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Has anyone tried to contact them for repairs or service? I couldn't get the PDF request form to work. I used this link to get to the new site. https://www.deeforce.net/
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01-30-2020 08:15 PM  26 days ago
dschertz

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I pulled the form up. Not sure what you are having problems with. Doesn't seem to be able to fill in online though. Just print and write.
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01-31-2020 12:54 AM  26 days ago
Badgerfarm

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I thought it was a fill in the blank and submit system. I guess I'm getting lazy with all of the tech stuff around. I'll print one off and go that route. Thanks
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