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10-05-2019 03:26 AM  10 months ago
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Brain 2 and Ikon 2
Is there any difference between the Brain 2 and Ikon 2? They both have the same exact specs and two different models.
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10-05-2019 03:36 AM  10 months ago
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No they are the same. They both use the same programing.Put the woman and children to bed it's time to go fly!
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10-05-2019 12:07 PM  10 months ago
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Thanks! I was told last week that I should try the Brain that I would like it better than the sk540 I’ve been using. So I’ve been looking into it, hence the question because it seems like the ikon is readily available every where where as the Brain is limited.
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10-05-2019 05:35 PM  10 months ago
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I don’t own an Ikon or Brain FBL, but it is my understanding the the two are the same and that the Ikon is just the registered name under the USA distributor HeliDirect.
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10-05-2019 07:36 PM  10 months ago
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Okay! Thanks for the info.
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10-06-2019 10:05 PM  10 months ago
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I dumped my SK540 and SK720BE 6 years ago for the Brain and never looked back. I am now using only Brain2 and iKON2 and they are even better than the older models.
All models include logging and built-in support to telemetry and remote configuration from the transmitter
Other than the color of their cases, the iKON2 / Brain2 are 100% identical. They are both manufactured and developed by the same company: MSH Electronics
https://www.ikonflybarless.com/
https://www.msh-electronics.com/

MSH Electronics is based in Italy, but they ship worldwide.
They upgrade their firmware about 2 times per year and there is no charge for upgrades or new features.
Direct access to the developers is through their Facebook group or the HF site: https://www.helifreak.com/forumdisplay.php?f=308
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10-06-2019 11:41 PM  10 months ago
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I have replaced 4 out of 5 of my Breastx units with iKon/Brain units. I did it for the rescue feature alone, but found the system easy to use and very advanced. If you need help setting up a Brain there are lots of folks here who can help you too."Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground." J. Taylor
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10-07-2019 01:24 AM  10 months ago
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Thanks guys! Looks like it’s time for an upgrade.
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01-27-2020 01:17 AM  6 months ago
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Mobil app
WTH??!!?? The mobil app cost $10. Must have taken a page from Mikado. Here is our very best FBL unit. But you have to pay extra to be able to use its functionality.

Ok....feel better now.
www.redstickrc.net ama#: 968515
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01-27-2020 01:53 PM  6 months ago
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raholek But you have to pay extra to be able to use its functionality.
I understand the sentiment and I had similar thoughts when I went to the app store and found its price wasn't included with the purchase of a gyro.

But time has passed and I've come to realize that the iKon is a great gyro with MANY features and at only $250 bucks, it is not overpriced. By contrast the new Futaba gyro is comfortably over $400 and lacks most of the iKon's features - one of which is Bluetooth and a phone app (purchased separately). I would gladly pay hardware manufactures a few dollars to add phone app capability.

In the end I gave 'em 10 bucks and moved on.
"Well, nothing bad can happen now."
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01-27-2020 02:37 PM  6 months ago
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Allow me a few clarifications:
The Brain2 versions are not two but six (and the iKon2 versions are also six).
For all versions is offered free of charge (and therefore included in the price) the Windows configuration software that can be downloaded for free from websites.
All versions can also be adjusted directly from menus on the screen of Spektrum, Jeti, Graupner, FrSky transmitters (functions included for free).
All versions can also fine tuned using Dials and/or potentiometers of the transmitters (functions included for free).

The standard version of Brain2 control units costs from Amain 164.99 USD (iKon2 version costs from Helidirect 164.99 USD).

As explained above, no Android or iOS applications for tablet / Smartphone are required or necessary to operate the control units.
But for those who want "also" these (optional) options there are the versions with integrated Bluetooth Brain2+BT that from Amain cost 199,99 USD (or iKon2+BT that from Helidirect cost 199,99
If you want, you can buy the external Bluetooth dongle later. However, please note that due to the casing and screws, the on board connector, the independent voltage regulator, the LEDs, the connection cable with two connectors, and the packaging, a standard Brain2 plus a Bluetooth dongle will cost more than the Brain2+BT version in which Bluetooth is integrated in the same case.
https://www.msh-electronics.com
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02-05-2020 05:06 PM  6 months ago
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rik For all versions is offered free of charge (and therefore included in the price) the Windows configuration software that can be downloaded for free from websites.
All versions can also be adjusted directly from menus on the screen of Spektrum, Jeti, Graupner, FrSky transmitters (functions included for free).
All versions can also fine tuned using Dials and/or potentiometers of the transmitters (functions included for free).
RIK,
More of just a frustrated RANT. While I was complaining I bought another Bluetooth IKON2. I still get frustrated with buying systems that require external software (at an additional charge) to operate the FBL units functions. Your software is an added function (mobile access), but Mikado requires you to upgrade to the pro software to use the GOV functions for my Nitros(added fee). Yes your product is great and at a better price point. Sorry if this seems a direct assault on your company, but I am still of the opinion that paying after the fact for functions of a product sucks. Put it into the price of purchase. Even though I know your company probably has to pay to develop and maintain the software at a cost to you I like to pay upfront.

My Ikons have the neat lil Bluetooth icon on them. I was surprised that the software cost, because I assumed it was part of the upgrade. Great product and I will give up the $10. But you will have to forgive my complaints. Kinda like getting home with a toy and being sure the batteries were included and not finding them in the package.

I hope your company does well and is around for a long time. Yours will be my go to FBL unit for builds. Forgive my grumpy/frugal nature.

Best Wishes,
Ricky Klusman
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02-07-2020 09:27 PM  6 months ago
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raholek My Ikons have the neat lil Bluetooth icon on them. I was surprised that the software cost, because I assumed it was part of the upgrade.
There is no charge for the Windows or the Android app.
There is no charge for the remote setup from your transmitter (if you have any of the radio brands that support telemetry).
Also, you may not be taking into consideration the costs associated with developing something for iOS and then getting into the Apple App Store vs Android. It ain't free.
Since there is no charge for upgrades, I'm not sure how it would be part of the upgrade.
Personally, I don't normally use Android or iOS.
But all my Brain2 / iKON2 have BT. And I use a Windows 10 laptop with the $25 BT / USB adapter to program / upgrade / download logs. I didn't expect MSH Electronics to send me the BT / USB dongle for free.
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I thought Skookums 720 was the best gyro out there for years. Bought a Ikon2 and Brain2, by far the easiest and best gyro I have ever used, love em.
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