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09-03-2019 07:20 PM  12 days ago
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RFCxPerT

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What size is best to practice 3D
Regardless of cost, is a 600+ or 700 size much better and faster to learn all 3D maneuvers than a 500 size (forget about 450 size)? I don't care about the brands.
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09-03-2019 07:31 PM  12 days ago
RM3

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the smaller the heli... the harder. the most important aspect to learning 3D... time on the sticks with orientation practice drills, inverted and nose in being the most important also practice with traveling pirouettes in all the moves (8s, loops, circuits) ... and all while keeping the moves within a predefined "box"... staying in the box is the hardest part... most can 3D all over the place, some make the excuse of calling it "big air"... the real pros can do a full 3D routine within a tennis courtshowing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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09-03-2019 09:31 PM  12 days ago
Steff Giguere

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If I was to start over again, I would start with a 550 size, or around that.Team Synergy, Rail blades, Team Scorpion, V-Team
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09-03-2019 10:18 PM  12 days ago
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a 500 is more agile than a 550 but the 550 is more stable requires less corrections when doing maneuvers. IMO my 600N doesn't feel more stable feels almost the same as the 550. tried my buddies 700 and thought it was slower maneuvering, less agile. I can see why they are the favorite size, to me it was almost too stable and slower moving. I'll say one thing for the micro class and that they do teach you how to do corrections fast which I believe is necessary for 3D.spending time, paying attention
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09-03-2019 11:41 PM  12 days ago
RFCxPerT

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I agreed with you. The 450 is faster than it looks, which requires 2x attention. That's why I only try new maneuvers with it then master them with 500+ size.
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09-04-2019 12:42 AM  11 days ago
Rojoalfa

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To learn... The best helicopter is class 30, glow...
Every session is 15 min.

Electric? No way... You need a bunch of lipo packs...
Every session... 5 min.

When you are learning, you need much time with your helicopter and not charging Lipos.

If you can, the best choice is a gasser helicopter.
Every session? 30 min.

You are going to get tired and your heli, with plenty of gas and a pack charged, is going to be waiting for you...

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Saludos cordiales,
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09-04-2019 12:44 AM  11 days ago
ICUR1-2

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If you can fly the 450 well enough to notice how 500 feels bigger wait until you try the 550 size my 500 feels like my 450 used to in comparison.

I like the agility of the 500 (425 blades) but the 550 is fast becoming my new favorite.

my 500 gets 6:30 I land with 35% left if I get aggressive enough I can drop it to 5 min with 25% left
the 550 gets 6 min
the 600N with gets 10+ min with header tank still full
If you're worried about flight time get 3-4 packs and fly non stop

The nice thing about electric is that it always starts when your ready
spending time, paying attention
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09-04-2019 12:49 AM  11 days ago
Rojoalfa

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Ohhh... You mean 3D...

Well, the smaller, the better.

Crashes are cheaper...

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Saludos cordiales,
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09-04-2019 01:56 AM  11 days ago
utahbob

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My two main birds are 550sx and 480 extreme..I've been flying them just about every weekend for 3 yrs..I think the 550 has been the best tool for learning and Has helped me to learn to fly my little monster 480..they are super reliable!I do a great decending funnel!
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09-05-2019 05:53 PM  10 days ago
DemetriusUSN

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Your 500 size is perfect for learning, not too big, not too small and parts aren’t expensive.Minicopter Diabolo 800, Minicopter Triabolo 700, Minicopter Diabolo 700, Minicopter Diabolo 600, Minicopter Diabolo 550, Goblin 770
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09-06-2019 03:58 AM  9 days ago
RFCxPerT

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I started out with an used .45 nitro and after an engine failure in mid air hovering, I upgraded to 0.61 size stretched swinging 700mm blades, and definitely it felt much more stable but never flipped it upside down yet because of the cost factor lingering in the back of my mind. Also the bigger size has been very intimidating for 3D stuff so I got cold feet at the last minute lol

Without a slight doubt I've known most of us started out successfully with a 450 or smaller simply due to a single reason: COST COST COST lol.

I did too after continuously being intimidated by the 600+ size. So that was my op: forget cost what would be best?

After days of hard labor away with cleaning, loctite, building, setting up, tuning a brand new kit, I again opted out to take her for a new 3D tryout even I could afford a re-kit but all that labor gone up in smoke within minutes got me think it over

So regardless of cost I still believe 600+ size is better if not the best to learn 3D professionally, not a squirrely 3D
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09-06-2019 06:46 AM  9 days ago
heli4fun

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Sounds like you answered your own question, and you already had reservations on what heli size best meets your needs .Others will have different opinions,but the only right answer for you is what you feel best about.
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09-06-2019 04:01 PM  9 days ago
Rockin Bird

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Easy ,the simulator.That sweet smell of "Nitro"
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09-07-2019 08:04 AM  8 days ago
SkySurfer

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+1 for the Sim. Buy a 550 once you nail things down on the sim.
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09-15-2019 04:47 PM  7 hours ago
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550 gets my vote. Stable and powerful.I have a 3D heli, I don't understand why it doesn't do 3D.
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09-15-2019 08:37 PM  3 hours ago
dschertz

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When I started some flips and what not I was using a Sceadu .37, I could do what I wanted to do, but I noticed it was somewhat lacking of power for a recovery. The .60-.90 size was better or now it would be a 700 size. I think a 600 size now would be sufficient. Depends if you are worried on cost. I have noticed the bigger the more stable it is.
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