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08-25-2019 03:07 AM  53 days ago
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utahbob

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the hobby needs a boost
The hobby really seems to be dryin up..ordered some parts from a Mfg. That usually gets stuff to me out here in Utah in three days..that was on the 9th of Aug.; been told they might be another week or so..we need to get more folks flyin! and buyin!; maybe we could get some Hondurans into the game..or after the "reparations" are paid out there'll be some new pilots!..seriously though what our hobby has needed for a long time is mainstream exposure..we need a modern day Bruce Brown..some of you older guys remember what he did for Surfing and Motorcycle racing with his documentary movies..I know we have some Hollywood connected helifolks (pc) who might be interested in showcasing our hobby..cause our source for products might disappear!
I do a great decending funnel!
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08-25-2019 05:48 AM  53 days ago
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Rc helis have become over complicated, especially with the advent of the Fly barless units. With most of the good hobby shops out of business. There is no one that can teach or mentor these people. Have a beginner program a radio,set up a fbl unit or set up a heli, good luck. The golden years are nothing but a memory. I don’t think the hobby will make a comeback.
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08-25-2019 12:32 PM  52 days ago
Jerry K

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You both being up good points, but the hobby is dying because of, attention span along with a few others that are socially related. The younger generation is different. Their attention span is much to short for this hobby. The other problem is instant gratification and then there is "no losers" proposition. Helis definitely has losers, crash and you will experience defeat. The hobby is dying because there is no feed stock coming in to supplement the older generation dropping out. I have been in this hobby 50 years, I am losing interest after all the facets I have been involved in (Sport, racing, 40%, Jets, FPV, Helis just to name a few) Where is my replacement? They came in a year ago and have already departed to the next shinny trinket.

ARF as great as they are, also killed the sport big time! (Let me see where did all of the accessory manufactures go) In years past we spent untold hours to build our wares to take them out to the field to show them off, at what we had created. We valued our prize workmanship, and displayed it with pride. Now for a few pieces of gold on Friday you can have a plane built by some Chinese underpaid worker, receive it on Monday, assemble it on Tuesday and Wednesday, show it off on Thursday, fly it on Friday crash it on Saturday them. What have you lost a few pieces of gold and 1 week. No skin off your nose!

Stick a fork in it, because it is done. This hobby cannot survive without manufactures, and the manufactures cannot survive on the few left. IT IS DEAD!!! Funeral on Friday.

Here is a post that supports my theory.

"Did the whole Google search thing saw a couple good things. The 24 is a little bit scarce but still looking for somebody with a proven tried-and-true motor battery Electronics hardware setup like some of these videos. Just want to go to HK and get it all in one click"

"Give me some part numbers or descriptions of Motors ESC trim tabs propellers everything. I don't want to sit here guessing I want a proven set up. Thanks"

Lets break this down! He purchased a ARF (Almost Ready to Float) boat but it under performed in his opinion. So he goes on the interweb and sees all these videos of boats like his, that haul a$$ and he wants his to do the same. (Does he go do a search for the components himself) $hit NO! He goes on a forum and asks others to do the work for him, to make a list of parts so he can go to hobbyKing to purchase with 'One click' and have them the next day.

He is not a hobbyist! He is a thrill seeker, and when he blows up his first 150.00 battery because he drained to zero will be gone.

And you wonder why the RC hobby is dying???
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08-25-2019 02:07 PM  52 days ago
banshee rider

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Lets see here the OP posts what he thinks may help the hobby
I dont think it needs any help

the next two posts state what ruined the hobby
neither of which is accurate

The hobby isnt ruined

Flybarless and Bindnfly caused a huge boom in the hobby
they didnt hurt the hobby

Now the hobby is going back or has gone back to what it was before the boom

The way I see it is the people involved in it now are the serious hobby people not the follow the latest fad people

Go-Karts were the rage in the early mid sixties snowmobiles were in the 70s
monster trucks mid/late 70s ect.ect.

Now how many of your friends/neighbors have a racing Kart or a snowmobile ?

Everybody had them back then now only the serious people have them
but there still here

same thing has now happened with R.C. Helicopters

The hobby isnt going to disappear just the latest fad followers have left and moved on

And I for one am very happy they have

The hobby doesnt need to be huge like it was a few years ago

Most people I know that are in the hobby are still enjoying it and will continue too

Since the hobby has been "dyeing" for last several years

The funflys are becoming more personalized again and not so commercialized
Thats a good thing to me
ageing is manditory maturity is optional
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08-25-2019 03:16 PM  52 days ago
Jerry K

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Ok, I can see your supposition, but like I posted. The hobby cannot survive without manufactures and the manufactures cannot survive without customers. Go to the field and you do not see noobs coming in as fast as old farts are dropping out. It is simply a numbers game and the hand writing is on the chalk board.
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08-25-2019 05:08 PM  52 days ago
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Watch at Vimeo

Ban the Ban.
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08-25-2019 05:18 PM  52 days ago
utahbob

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Yeah who would want to build their own heli from scratch these days..I have a complete machine shop but would not want to do that..the great helis that we fly are made only because they can make a living by selling them..if demand drops too much..they will do something else. If I was making a documentary vid about our hobby I would include the above vid!..very well done and gets one motivated to fly heli's.I do a great decending funnel!
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08-25-2019 06:24 PM  52 days ago
Jerry K

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That is a great video for the simple reason, it is not 5 min of boring 3d flying. Let me explain. I appreciate a great pilot for the skill level he has over me, but after about 2 min of hard core flying I am yawing saying great so he can do things I cannot do, or ever do.

This video showcases his talents in a way that the entire video was a pleasure to watch. vs. 1 min of impressive flying 1 min of what else can he do, and 1 min of land already. So this one goes in the fantastic video file, that does not have 1 hard core 3D video.
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08-25-2019 06:35 PM  52 days ago
Rockin Bird

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I hope it keeps hanging on,because I would love to see my,little grandchildren learn the hobby.That sweet smell of "Nitro"
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08-25-2019 08:59 PM  52 days ago
Rojoalfa

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Time has change my friends...

I can't figure out the hobby for the future... Virtual reality?

Flying a helicopter with a helmet, glasses and headphones...and a tube on our nose to smell nitro?

Let's enjoy the present!

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Saludos cordiales,
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08-30-2019 07:34 AM  48 days ago
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I feel that since drones have come rather late down the line in the scheme of events , especially the self built ones, have made one feel that he (she) is both an accomplished engineer and pilot at the same time .
The RC helicopter was too simple .
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08-30-2019 10:28 PM  47 days ago
RM3

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my RC flying site is vacant 90% of the time... even the old plankers are becoming bed ridden.

technology gave us a boost and also pulled away the younger folk that dont like to crash and blow thru $200 worth of spare parts doing it.

bottom line: it costs money to play this game and mistakes are expensive and finding a place to play is getting more and more difficult.

$300 will buy you a good used Xbox and for a few more dollars endless Fortnite adventures with your pals any time regardless of the weather or time of day all in the comfort of your 1 bedroom rat hole apartment... loose a game and your out $0 loose a game every hour each day... still out only $0.

but the mental stimulation is still there

its a new world out there. the hobby has simply returned to pre-2006 levels and fallen further away into obscurity. the RC car guys seem to have remained steady though
showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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08-31-2019 12:46 PM  46 days ago
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I don't know about having a main stream spokes person. We had Bruce Jenner and looked what happened to him. We had Jeff Dunham but that didn't grow into anything, I guess "Walter" put the kiabosh on helicopter flying or "Achmed" thought quads had more potential for his pursuits.RapRexSynLogo Pilot
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08-31-2019 03:31 PM  46 days ago
utahbob

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Jeff Dunham..I forgot about him..he was doing a column for the heli mag.; he might be perfect to make a documentary film for our hobby..he's been flyin them for years.I do a great decending funnel!
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09-01-2019 05:54 PM  45 days ago
Jerry K

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Here is a news story that puts Helis in a positive light. I am not sure this would be enough to fix the problem but they never mentioned the word 'Drone' which in itself is a positive.

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/r...igh-flying-fun#
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09-01-2019 08:11 PM  45 days ago
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Your Hobby never dies until you give it up... who cares if your hobby is growing or fading as long as you are participating you're keeping it alive.

I think allot of us got spoiled and forget what it was like before 2005, we were witness to the evolution of the model helicopter and I am glad to have seen it happen.
spending time, paying attention
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09-02-2019 02:36 AM  45 days ago
Rockin Bird

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Whats up ICUR12 ?That sweet smell of "Nitro"
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09-02-2019 05:22 AM  45 days ago
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Since my divorce and my Dad passing away. I moved in with Mom, Since she's not ready to move back to the city I help out by taking care of a huge property... Lot's of room for my 600N and I love having my own flying area but in the winter it's a lonely view while I wait for spring.spending time, paying attention
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09-02-2019 05:55 AM  45 days ago
PaulBowen

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It’s a great hobby and I’ll hopefully never stop doing it. It’s challenging and that’s great but we always need the right balance of challenge vs ease to keep us interested. I recently sold my electric helicopters and now only fly an Ergo 30 and a Quest Neo Caliber ZG.

I found the rampant commercialisation and 3D worshiping really irritating and thankful it has died off. A German manufacturer of plastic electric helicopters became particularly annoying. I owned one when they had a fly bar, before the marketing machine went out of control.

When hobbies become extremely popular they become crass and unsustainable because they rely on an endless supply of thrill seekers and show offs with very short attention spans.

It’s great to see gasser helicopters are so popular at the moment which could be a sign of the potential monotony of a good electric setup. Scale helicopters are also very popular in Europe, although one needs very deep pockets and lots of time for that side of the hobby.

The frustration of this hobby can be crippling sometimes but it’s also what makes it interesting.

Happy hovering!
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09-02-2019 08:58 AM  44 days ago
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it's not easy, but we're both flying. me and son
although we are at the airport for exotics
it takes a lot of time and patience, getting parts ... you know it
but - those moments together with the young pilot
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