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08-04-2019 04:18 PM  15 days ago
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Can Someone Explain the Motivation Behind Randomly Shooting People?
I woke up this morning to find headlines of shootings in El Paso and Dayton Ohio. I can't begin to get my head around the motivation for randomly shooting people in a shopping mall.

Is it simply hate? "I'm leaving the world but I'm gonna take some people with me first?"

Is it a statement? If it is, whatever they're trying to say is lost on me.

Is it maladjusted people that don't believe the world is treating them fairly? "I'll show them!"

Too many hours of 1st person video games? Too many hours surfing the dark web?

Someone tell me what there is to learn from these acts. Help me see what is going on here.
"Well, nothing bad can happen now."
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08-06-2019 02:22 AM  14 days ago
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Kunstler: "This Is Exactly What You Get In A Culture Where Anything Goes & Nothing Matters"

Hold The Teddy Bears and Candles

In a nation afflicted by fads, crazes, manias, and rages, mass murder is the jackpot for nihilists - begging the question: why does this country produce so many of them? Answer: this is exactly what you get in a culture where anything goes and nothing matters. Extract all the meaning and purpose from being here on earth, and erase as many boundaries as you can from custom and behavior, and watch what happens, especially among young men trained on video slaughter games.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...nothing-matters
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08-06-2019 02:29 PM  13 days ago
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So was the Congress woman quoted below wrong? They have asked her to resign. Are her words and opinions any different than those of Kunstler? Are her thoughts unspeakables that necessitate immediate removal from office? Even if you don't agree, aren't these comments open for discussion? If found unacceptable, the people who elected her may reconsider when her term is up rather than demand her removal.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ost/1930213001/
“Why not place the blame where it belongs?

The breakdown of the traditional American family (thank you, transgender, homosexual marriage, and drag queen advocates); fatherlessness, a subject no one discuses or believes is relevant; the ignoring of violent video games; the relaxing of laws against criminals (open borders); the acceptance of recreational marijuana; failed school policies (hello parents who defend misbehaving students); disrespect to law enforcement (thank you, Obama); hatred of our veterans (thank you, professional athletes who hate our flag and National Anthem); the Dem Congress, many members whom are open anti-Semitic; the culture, which totally ignores the importance of God and the church (until they elect a President); state officeholders, who have no interest whatsoever in learning about our Constitution and the Second Amendement; and snowflakes, who can’t accept a duly-elected President.

Did I forget anybody? The list is long. And the fury will continue.”
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08-06-2019 02:44 PM  13 days ago
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wjvail...
Even if you don't agree, aren't these comments open for discussion?
No that's not how it works in today's progressive mindset.
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08-06-2019 04:12 PM  13 days ago
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The murder rate in Chicago this year alone is higher than ALL of the mass murders combined for this year.

Why are folks not all up in arms about that ???

I guess the media doesn’t give Chicago the glorified coverage they do to the mass shootings...
Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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08-07-2019 02:23 PM  12 days ago
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JuanRodriguez...
he murder rate in Chicago this year alone is higher than ALL of the mass murders combined for this year.

Why are folks not all up in arms about that ???

I guess the media doesn’t give Chicago the glorified coverage they do to the mass shootings...
Certainly true but it's a bit of a different subject. I'm trying to get my head around the motivation for randomly killing people in a shopping mall. What is the mindset that brings someone to that point and what do they think they are achieving? "By this act, I will accomplish ____________."

Juan... Your comment speaks to how we respond to these act of a few. We seem to be able to overlook deaths by cars or violence with some explainable reason (robbery, gangs, domestic violence, etc.) but an active shooter typically results in a cry for the repeal of the 2nd amendment. https://heyjackass.com/
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08-07-2019 02:40 PM  12 days ago
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wjvail...
We seem to be able to overlook deaths by cars or violence with some explainable reason (robbery, gangs, domestic violence, etc.) but an active shooter typically results in a cry for the repeal of the 2nd amendment.
https://www.politifact.com/punditfa...mparison-mass-/
Neil deGrasse Tyson @neiltyson

In the past 48hrs, the USA horrifically lost 34 people to mass shootings.

On average, across any 48hrs, we also lose…

500 to Medical errors
300 to the Flu
250 to Suicide
200 to Car Accidents
40 to Homicide via Handgun

Often our emotions respond more to spectacle than to data.
Our liberal comrades are definitely more emotional.
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08-10-2019 04:14 PM  9 days ago
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Not that it makes the loss of innocent people in random shootings any better, but, how many innocent babies were murdered last week?
Does anyone care about that?
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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08-10-2019 07:56 PM  9 days ago
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baby uh1...
Not that it makes the loss of innocent people in random shootings any better, but, how many innocent babies were murdered last week?
Does anyone care about that?
Read up a few posts . I brought up a similar scenario but Bill wants to figure out the motivation of the random mass shootings so that he can try to wrap his head around it.....

IMHO, that ain’t gonna happen and unfortunately, there’s nothing we can do about it ....
Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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08-11-2019 02:39 PM  8 days ago
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You probably would have to be sick in the head yourself to really understand the people that do these any of these sick acts.Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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08-12-2019 01:39 AM  8 days ago
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baby uh1...
You probably would have to be sick in the head yourself to really understand the people that do these any of these sick acts.
JuanRodriguez...
IMHO, that ain’t gonna happen and unfortunately, there’s nothing we can do about it ....
I completely understand these responses. I freely admit that my quest for answers may not be something that can be found.

But I also think we have lost the fight if we don't openly and honestly ask the questions. To simply say, "Oh. Crazy guy. All questions answered. Nothing more to be learned here", does nothing to preventing it from happening again.
"Well, nothing bad can happen now."
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08-12-2019 01:59 AM  8 days ago
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Bill, you are approaching this from the wrong point of view. You are thinking the glass is half full. You have to remember there is a certain segment of society that considers the glass only partially full. Those are the ones that have problems with living in a society, that has rules and laws and as a result consequences. It is the last part that really gives them the problems. I know you live your life on the side of the law that is in the upper tier. The people in the lower tier do not fair well in our society. They tend to make the wrong judgment decisions when they have choices. Dropping out of school, running around with the wrong crowd, have troubles holding on to a job. cannot find a job because of a criminal record, get into fights, abuse drugs abuse alcohol and so on.

These are the people that have problems living, and tend to have shortened lives due to their decision making abilities. So you will never be able to understand the situation they have put themselves in from your point of view or mine and probably 95% of the people on this forum.

Bottom line, there are people that cannot live in our society.
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08-12-2019 02:18 AM  8 days ago
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wjvail...
But I also think we have lost the fight if we don't openly and honestly ask the questions. To simply say, "Oh. Crazy guy. All questions answered. Nothing more to be learned here", does nothing to preventing it from happening again.
Bill, you will never preventing this from occurring in the future, in a free society. (Once society changed and the media sensationalized these acts) Remember we are in the era of instant communication 20-30-40 years ago the news cycle lagged sometimes by weeks and by that time it was not news.

The reasoning is this is a reactionary problem. I carry and I understand I am put in to a lagging situation when I do. Just like our free society, I cannot make a move until the criminal makes his. I can anticipate what he is planning but I cannot draw until he has made it obvious what his intent is. There are a lot of good guys with a gun that are sitting in jail because of this fact. So I am behind the time stamp and I have to be smarter or faster than him. Remember never draw no a pointed gun, your arm is not faster than his finger.

I read somewhere a relative warned the police he was planning something but once again the authorities flubbed up and did nothing.

Also I have never heard one of these gun grabbers explain, how they are going to remove the guns from the criminals, only the law abiding citizens and even then maybe only 50% of those.

Their intentions are a bit light in the details area.
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08-12-2019 04:14 AM  8 days ago
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They also never explain how taking away rights will make us safer. The disturbed person bent on doing harm will find a way to do it. No gun? Just drive into a crowd, or start a fire in a crowed building. Politicians just want us to believe that they can fix the problem but history has shown that they just make it worse with their Knee-jerk "solutions" and never get to the core of the problems.
I'm not sure that any of them even want to find the real problems.
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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08-16-2019 12:44 PM  4 days ago
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They just want to feel like they did something even if they know it won't work.If it isn't beating the air up it isn't flying
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