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07-31-2019 11:49 AM  22 days ago
onebigjunker

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ADHD, and that's why you were not at IRCHA, I would bet. and that's your choice so why complain you either chose to go or you stay home!work hard, play even harder!!!!
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07-31-2019 02:11 PM  22 days ago
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I'm not really sure why that has anything to do with whether I was there or not, so your statement doesn't really mean anything. I don't see my post as a complaint, more of just a matter of fact. I didn't start the thread, I'm only commenting.
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07-31-2019 04:59 PM  22 days ago
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I'm hearing a lot of grumblings about cost and pilot attendance. As one of the CD's for Heli Spring Fling and Heli Mowdown in Virginia, I can honestly tell you, $125 is a really good deal for pretty much a whole week of flying. There is a lot involved with organizing an event and sure they can charge a lesser fee, but the atmosphere and experience would not be the same. We spend upwards of thousands of dollars on our hobby, but complain about $125? That could be a set of blades you damage on a maiden flight and forget about a week later versus the memories you'll remember at an IRCHA Jamboree and lifelong friendships you'll create.

As far as the attendance is concerned, who cares how many people registered? How does attendance affect your own personal experience at the event? Personally, I like the lower attendance because flight stations were only about 2-3 deep meaning more flying. I remember the hey-day of this event with over 1000 registrations (inflated numbers? who knows, lol), I don't know about you, but waiting in a line of 10 pilots under the sun was not fun for me, we would have to drive to another site just to get some flying in.

Bottom line, this year was probably the best IRCHA I've attended. Most events ran as scheduled, pilots flew safely, and IRCHA Police even had smiles on their faces. The board did an amazing job running this event without a "President", they made IRCHA Great Again!
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07-31-2019 07:44 PM  22 days ago
onebigjunker

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I agree ninjapleasework hard, play even harder!!!!
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08-01-2019 12:58 AM  22 days ago
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Ninjaplease, you are spot on w. your post. The grumblings are probably because we have never paid anywhere near that. In all the years I have went, think maybe it was as high as$70, and had your choice of non-member registration. This was a bit of sticker-shock' when I first seen the new fees, myself. But you are right, a pair of 700 blades would cover that, in just one crash/tipover

As for attendance, yeah you could tell it was way down everywhere (except at the Oxy tent Sat afternoon for the giveaways, think most of the attendees were there,jeez) But you nailed it on the wait times at the cones in years past......several pilots deep in 90* muggies...that is why I changed the way I have done my flying the last several years, mostly at site 3.

NOT this year, most of my flying was done on the main flightline, NICE! And yes, the Ircha crew looked to do fine w/o their 'pres'.

Another fine event in the books, that comes and GOES way too quickly!!

Mike H and Mike S, pleasure as always!
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08-01-2019 02:42 AM  22 days ago
Chuck Bole

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Site 3..
My only bitch about the whole thing.
The dates were moved from last year because of the "Rocketeers". Well lo and behold, I think I remember hearing site 3 was closed to flying. At least for one day, because of rocket launching activities..

They going to follow us around constantly now?

chuck
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08-01-2019 01:07 PM  21 days ago
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It's almost as if the AMA is attempting to court new members at the detriment of their existing....

Tried it before with drones.
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08-02-2019 10:40 AM  20 days ago
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A comfortable IRCHA. The new normal for last year and this year is between 500-600 pilots. Those numbers are comparable to the 2007-2008 numbers before the 2.4ghz, Align, SAB, Mikado explosion years of 2009-2015.
I was pleased with the number of vendors attending, showing us what the current models are for now. Also some consolidation/revival of some of the helicopters from years past, ie, Protos, Compass, Minature, some explanation is available in latest issue of AMA magazine article of German Helicopter Show.
Hopefully the new IRCHA board will communicate more and get flying site prep and date troubles with AMA worked out for 2020.
Good to see Mark Ryder & RunRyder back, he is our bridge for attendees and those that couldn't make it to IRCHA, not everyone uses FB and sorry but HF is a PITA to use. Back to the workbench and flying field until we get to do it again.
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08-02-2019 04:35 PM  20 days ago
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NinjaPlease...
As one of the CD's for Heli Spring Fling and Heli Mowdown in Virginia, I can honestly tell you, $125 is a really good deal for pretty much a whole week of flying. There is a lot involved with organizing an event and sure they can charge a lesser fee, but the atmosphere and experience would not be the same. We spend upwards of thousands of dollars on our hobby, but complain about $125? That could be a set of blades you damage on a maiden flight and forget about a week later versus the memories you'll remember at an IRCHA Jamboree and lifelong friendships you'll create.
Hmmm... Maybe. The only thing I might add is that a set of quality 710 blades cost $135 in 2003. 16 years latter they are about $115. If the price of blades had increased at the same rate as IRCHA landing fees, blades would be $500 a set.

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08-03-2019 06:20 AM  19 days ago
NinjaPlease

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wjvail...
Hmmm... Maybe. The only thing I might add is that a set of quality 710 blades cost $135 in 2003. 16 years latter they are about $115. If the price of blades had increased at the same rate as IRCHA landing fees, blades would be $500 a set.
Really? I think you're missing the whole point. We're talking $25/day if you showed up on Wednesday. Your blade inflation is based on wooden blades vs Carbon Fiber. The event is about having fun and brotherhood (or sisterhood). Bottom line is, if you can't afford it, you can't afford it, but if you can, more power to you. Personally, I could barely afford it, but scraping up the loot to be able to go was well worth it for my son and I to see friends we only see once a year at IRCHA. People forget that this is a hobby, the friends that have become like family are the reason we go to big events, otherwise, we can fly at any local club or "illegaly" at any open field.

I get it, money is a big deal for a lot of people, including myself. However, there are some things and experiences in life that are worth it and that's priceless.
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08-03-2019 08:04 AM  19 days ago
wjvail

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NinjaPlease...
Really? I think you're missing the whole point. We're talking $25/day if you showed up on Wednesday. Your blade inflation is based on wooden blades vs Carbon Fiber. The event is about having fun and brotherhood (or sisterhood). Bottom line is, if you can't afford it, you can't afford it, but if you can, more power to you. Personally, I could barely afford it, but scraping up the loot to be able to go was well worth it for my son and I to see friends we only see once a year at IRCHA. People forget that this is a hobby, the friends that have become like family are the reason we go to big events, otherwise, we can fly at any local club or "illegaly" at any open field.

I get it, money is a big deal for a lot of people, including myself. However, there are some things and experiences in life that are worth it and that's priceless.
Well I think I do get the point... I make a decent living and while I'm certainly not rich, I squander $125 a week and never notice it. Furthermore, I don't go to IRCHA. Again, not because I can't afford it - I don't go because I travel for a living and a week off for me is NOT traveling. So from and personal perspective, 1. $125 isn't much, and 2. I don't pay it.

My interest in this is largely what you yourself hinted at. I've been flying models for 50 years and a lot of who I am today is thanks to modeling. I feel I have a responsibility to the hobby. I feel the need to leave it in better condition than when I found it. Much of what I do is so that the next generation will have the opportunities to fly, design and create models I did. My interest in this thread, even though I don't attend the event, is that I would like to see modeling flourish. I would like to see events like IRCHA available to all. Is $125 excessive? Not to me. I spend $1,000 a year on servos. But there are people that will have to sacrifice to manage these landing fees or not attend at all. Increasing landing fees 5 fold over 15 years, when most other items in this hobby have stayed level or actually declined (including blades), is NOT growing the hobby.

So. Since the event seemed to go well this year, and because the general consensus it that the landing fees weren't extravagant, and because no matter what the fees I likely won't go, I encourage IRCHA to increase the attendance fee. Maybe something closer to $250.?.?
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08-03-2019 12:54 PM  19 days ago
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One of the best IRCHA events for me. Almost everyone I talked to took advantage of the early registration and paid. $100, not $125. It’s now like a multi-day fun fly on steroids vs an out of control circus event. Best part, it’s elective! Attend only if you want. The swampy grass end should have been cut, that was disappointing. Mosquitos could carry you away. It had dried out in most areas, no reason it should not have been cut even mid-week, if needed, for an event this size.Tom
CAUTION - my posts are based on my experiences, yours may be different.
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08-03-2019 01:11 PM  19 days ago
NinjaPlease

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wjvail...
I spend $1,000 a year on servos. But there are people that will have to sacrifice to manage these landing fees or not attend at all. Increasing landing fees 5 fold over 15 years, when most other items in this hobby have stayed level or actually declined (including blades), is NOT growing the hobby.
Well good for you that you can afford the hobby, I can't comment on the prices of helis fron 50 years ago as I was just being conceived. However, at least we can agree that $125 is not much, but unless I'm reading what your saying wrong, I don't believe an event like IRCHA is a reason the hobby is NOT growing. In fact, I'm not on the negative mindset of the hobby dying, at least in the area I fly in. The events I CD for actually grow in attendance in upwards of 100 registered pilots year after year. To grow the hobby, we need to positively influence anyone interested, young or old. Unfortunately, there are tenfold more things in this generation to peak people's interest.

We can go back and forth all day about this topic, but it's cutting into my flying time. So to you sir, a good day and happy flying!
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08-09-2019 02:57 AM  14 days ago
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great event this year... EASY hundo pre-reg... SO WORTH IT..

It was Better then years past.. it was the VERY BEST FUN FLY I have been to in YEARS.. lots of flying.. talked to a few vendors, bought some stuff.. won some stuff.. THANK YOU IRCHA!

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