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07-28-2019 12:20 AM  83 days ago
Dr.Ben

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The receiver is fine. The guideline is more directed at the fact that pretty much all new servos have power requirements the dictate lithium chemistry, and those are often fed by the same power system driving the receiver. I can check, but I would bet the receiver itself is stable down to 4 volts or less as most all have been through present day.

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07-28-2019 02:41 AM  83 days ago
JLF92677

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Bill, same power requirement as for R7008SB. R7008SB and other R70xxSB work fine with 4 and 5 cell NiCd and NiMH battery packs.
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07-28-2019 02:25 PM  82 days ago
martinhung

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What is the different between the 32mz and 18mz?I am nobody, but a RC heli freak
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07-28-2019 05:18 PM  82 days ago
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martinhung What is the different between the 32mz and 18mz?
https://futabausa.com/wp-content/up...FULL_MANUAL.pdf
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08-02-2019 02:54 PM  77 days ago
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martinhung What is the different between the 32mz and 18mz?
Good question. I've read the manual, some parts more completely than others. Here are a few things I noted:

-- It appears the radio now has what JR used to call "Model Match". Futaba calls it "Model ID". From page 41 of the manual, "For the sake of safety, this function does not operate the receiver if the model data of the model program settings that does not match the aircraft is used by mistake. " In short, you have to have both the correct model switched on and in front of you, and selected in the TX, or the RX won't respond. You can't try and fly a model with the wrong model selected in the TX.

-- There now appears to be a "User Menu". It appears to be a place for modelers to keep their most used functions. Page 123.

-- Firmware updating has changed. You no longer need to throw a switch to tell the TX to look for new firmware. PG 187

-- There appears to be a lot more use of Icons for navigation. See page 57 or 75 for examples.

-- The included RX is now the R7108SB vs the R7008SB we are currently using. It appears the new 7108 receiver allows the selection of several modes beyond the Channel Modes we already had. See page 29. I don't entirely understand these functions yet.

-- Of course there is the new "Sub-Display". Page 39. Nice!

-- T-FHSS capable. This was available on the 18MZ WC. (My radio is not a WC).

-- The telemetry section of the manual is quite long (pages 101 through 120). I didn't read this in detail looking for possible new features.

-- Best I can tell we lost the camera. I liked the camera and used for each of my models.

-- Micro USB charge port. Nice. Pg 24. A note in this section say: "Danger! Always use the included AC adapter to charge the battery. The charging circuit is built into the T32MZ."

-- MicroSD card vs Secure Digital.

-- It appears that S.Bus servos and sensors can now be programmed without a separate power supply.

I'm sure there are other features I've missed. Others please add to the list and please correct any errors I've made.

Quite frankly, at this moment, I don't see a lot difference between the 18MZ and 32. I think we will have to have faith that the transmitter as it is offered today is a framework for better things to come. Quoting from above:
The transmitter integration will appear at the end of 2019.

More cool features will be added with other future software updates. The radio is a powerful piece of hardware with lots of potential that will be realized in the future.
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08-06-2019 01:31 PM  73 days ago
flyalan

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I am quite excited about the 32MZ. The 18MZ for me was a bit heavy. I did hold the 32MZ at IRCHA (several times) and really liked the feel. The Telemetry screen for me is a big deal. I fly turbines as well and want info where I can actually see it. The Telemetry screen brightens up considerably in the sunlight making it very visible.
I have alway like JETI radios for the gimbals and screen up top. The 32MZ is comparably in gimbal feel but with better overall ergonomics (IMHO).
Yes it's pricey! It's not for everyone but if you want a high end reliable radio it is a winner. I would defiantly shy away from purchasing this overseas to same a few dollars. Warranty will not likely be honored at FutabaUSA. Personally I am very happy with Futaba USA and thankful we have them here for support.

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08-09-2019 03:01 PM  70 days ago
Rojoalfa

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Lot of channels it always confuse me when I think to spend serious money on transmitter...

When I hold my 12Z, four finger are ready to flip switches and operate sliders...Four fingers are busy on sticks... Potentiometers, good to operate on bench or doing hover but not flying.... Display, useful only on bench.

8 channels are always enough to fly rc helicopters ...

But, 32 channels...?
I need to buy more fingers !!! More fingers for what?

New technology, OK... I could understand.

I dream on a new Futaba 12Z with a colorful display... Doing some telemetry... Far away from windows...

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08-10-2019 03:21 AM  70 days ago
JLF92677

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Rojoalfa But, 32 channels...?
I need to buy more fingers !!! More fingers for what?
You don’t need more fingers... you need a LARGE scale plank so you can assign each servo a discrete channel.
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08-10-2019 05:14 AM  70 days ago
Dr.Ben

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Jet modelers for example consume extra channels like a sponge. This platform covers all disciplines, not just helicopters.

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08-13-2019 06:00 PM  66 days ago
Rojoalfa

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Yes, we know this platform is for model avionics...

My concern is... This is my sport... No just my hobby... We practice flights TPV... Third person view...

In this particular matter, I don't need a "pretty face" transmitter. I don't need to "see" its ugly face anyway.
I need a reliable brand like futaba, of course.

Plenty of channel? ... Number of servos? ... SBUS...? Flybarless...? Telemetry? Very expensive stuff?

Wait a minute!

Where is "the art of flying models in TPV".

That is why I don't like to fly drones... FPV...

Ohhhh! Good! Welcome Futaba 100MZ... "The art of your transmitter fly models without you..."
Great! Great a lot!

No wonder our "hobby" is busted by ourself.

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08-13-2019 07:26 PM  66 days ago
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Rojoalfa My concern is... This is my sport... No just my hobby... We practice flights TPV... Third person view...

In this particular matter, I don't need a "pretty face" transmitter. I don't need to "see" its ugly face anyway.
I need a reliable brand like futaba, of course.
There’s a lot of people out there that have more $$ than brains....they just “gotta have it “ !!

For you , sounds like all you need is old Heath Kit converted to 2.4
Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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08-13-2019 08:00 PM  66 days ago
Rojoalfa

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JuanRodriguez For you , sounds like all you need is old Heath Kit converted to 2.4
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Simplicity...
That is the key.

Freedom from complexity...
Absence of luxury and pretentiousness...

Very bad things that busted our hobby.

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08-13-2019 09:38 PM  66 days ago
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Rojoalfa Simplicity...
That is the key.

Freedom from complexity...
Absence of luxury and pretentiousness...

Very bad things that busted our hobby.
While I understand what you're saying, I don't know if I completely agree. Let's be honest, we are all flying remote control model helicopters and having come from control line airplanes, everything about this branch of the hobby is hopelessly complex. I still fly C/L airplanes just for their simplicity. There isn't as much as a receiver pack to charge. Lines, fuel, glove, glow plug heater - you're flying. When you're done for the day, roll up the lines, wipe the plane down and go home. Job done. Now compare that to a R/C helicopter.

Going on... I find infinite joy in my 18MZ. Do I need all of its features? Certainly not. I'm the first to admit that. I don't need telemetry any more than I need a model helicopter. With that said, I find great satisfaction in programming a new model on its gloriously large screen. Having flown R/C before end point adjustment, expo, servo reversing, etc, I can tell you don't need a LCD screen on a transmitter to fly a model aircraft; but, I personally believe it's a lot more enjoyable with a programmable transmitter. Same for its butter smooth sticks. Are they required? No. Does it make me happy every time I wiggle them? Absolutely.

Anyway. It up to each individual to choose their own level of complexity. There is a continuum with few gaps from rubber powered free flight models through $20,000+ turbines. Pick your pain.
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08-13-2019 10:28 PM  66 days ago
Rojoalfa

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wjvail Pick your pain.
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Very good!

Every one of us, pick our pain... And enjoy it.

BTW, I like that 18MZ... My kind of transmitter... Obviously more powerful that my very old 12Z...

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08-13-2019 11:29 PM  66 days ago
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I just wish the 32MZ would be more future proof. For example, transmitting module to be upgradable when new protocol comes out.
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08-13-2019 11:42 PM  66 days ago
wjvail

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knightofcarnage I just wish the 32MZ would be more future proof. For example, transmitting module to be upgradable when new protocol comes out.
I still have my 14MZ for exactly the reason you mention. When new it was 72mHz. With a 2.4gHz module (and about 50 new receivers) I was able to extend its useful life.

With an exchangeable RF module I'm able to move backwards to 72mHz and forwards to whatever becomes available. It might be the last Futaba we see for a while with a RF model that can be replaced.
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08-14-2019 12:36 AM  66 days ago
wjvail

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Recently a friend of mine pointed out to me a small note on the Futaba USA website. Look closely and you'll see the note "Hobby Version". Any thoughts on what that might mean? Is there another version? An industrial or commercial version perhaps?

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08-14-2019 12:48 AM  66 days ago
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wjvail Recently a friend of mine pointed out to me a small note on the Futaba USA website. Look closely and you'll see the note "Hobby Version". Any thoughts on what that might mean? Is there another version? An industrial or commercial version perhaps?
Probably a foreign to English translation issue .....
Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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08-14-2019 01:03 AM  66 days ago
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JuanRodriguez Probably a foreign to English translation issue .....
Curious error. ホビー版 (Hobī-ban) directly translates to "Hobby version" and vice versa. Are you suggesting they meant to say "Model Product" or something similar?
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08-14-2019 01:14 AM  66 days ago
JuanRodriguez

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wjvail Curious error. ホビー版 (Hobī-ban) directly translates to "Hobby version" and vice versa. Are you suggesting they meant to say "Model Product" or something similar?
That would be my guess .....
Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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