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07-17-2019 07:39 AM  3 months ago
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electriciancarl

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Well, let's get this topic going again! I've missed it.
I'm seeing a lot of talk online and on some news shows about civil war to defend our country from the socialist in government posing as Democrats.
Honestly, I have watched the power struggle between the parties for decades, a virtual stalemate, but never at the level we see today. Our country is divided like we have not seen since the last time we had a civil war. We have seen municipal, county, and state governments defy the rule of law even to the point of allowing groups like antifa and others to physically assault people with impunity and stop conservatives from publicly speaking by means of intimidation and violence.
So where is the line drawn? When does it go from rhetoric to reality?
I have asked this same question on some firearms forums and it's nearly unanimous in favor of violence to preserve democracy.
But how does it begin? What finally sets it off?
Are we going to wait for reparations to take effect, white people who never owned slaves paying blacks who have never been slaves?
Will we sit silently while racism promoted by Democrats with the sole purpose of tearing America apart destroys our way of life?
Will we wait for the confiscation of firearms?
Will we continue to remain silent while a Muslim anti-semite in the house openly and publicly spews hate speach against Jews and Christians?
I ask because many of these things are already taking place, and not a shot in Americas defense has been fired.
When is enough enough? Or have Americans lost the courage we have demonstrated throughout our history, and instead choose to kneel at the feet of socialism?
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07-21-2019 02:51 PM  3 months ago
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simple answer...
the reason we have these problems have everything to do with avoiding emotional distress or feeling of discomfort. How you ask?
#1. we've raised kids on the notion that everyone's a winner... everyone gets a trophy for trying... there are no losers and the last in the race is be just as celebrated as the first. gone are the days when you lost a team game and you took your sorry ass home without a "celebration of pizza and ice cream" and a retrospect on how to improve.
#2. we've raised kids on the notion that their failures are often due to the actions of others (see #1). And as such we should not accept such behavior from anyone at any time. That we should never need to evaluate our efforts and actions, all of which have lead to such an unfavorable result.
#3. we've raised our kids that as long as they find a supporting group, then what they share must be just because the very fact that they are not alone must then mean that their ideas are in fact legitimate. All others are simply in need of correcting or should be silenced. with the internet any view can find supporting evidence.

this is why we have pudgy non-deodorant, "el natural" blue haired weirdos screaming on college campuses that think that radical Islamists are simply "misunderstood"... that a female president is due... not because they are qualified, but simply because its "time for women to take charge"... that being a muscular man that likes to do man "things" should be shamed as being sexist cause they believe that men and women are equals in every way. That as long as we can simply share everything that act in itself will solve all our problems.
showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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07-22-2019 12:52 AM  3 months ago
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electriciancarl I'm seeing a lot of talk online and on some news shows about civil war to defend our country from the socialist in government posing as Democrats.

Honestly, I have watched the power struggle between the parties for decades, a virtual stalemate, but never at the level we see today. Our country is divided like we have not seen since the last time we had a civil war. We have seen municipal, county, and state governments defy the rule of law even to the point of allowing groups like antifa and others to physically assault people with impunity and stop conservatives from publicly speaking by means of intimidation and violence.

So where is the line drawn? When does it go from rhetoric to reality?
I have asked this same question on some firearms forums and it's nearly unanimous in favor of violence to preserve democracy.

But how does it begin? What finally sets it off? Are we going to wait for reparations to take effect, white people who never owned slaves paying blacks who have never been slaves? Will we sit silently while racism promoted by Democrats with the sole purpose of tearing America apart destroys our way of life? Will we wait for the confiscation of firearms?
Will we continue to remain silent while a Muslim anti-semite in the house openly and publicly spews hate speech against Jews and Christians?

I ask because many of these things are already taking place, and not a shot in Americas defense has been fired.

When is enough enough? Or have Americans lost the courage we have demonstrated throughout our history, and instead choose to kneel at the feet of socialism?
You ask a lot of difficult and scary questions.

My impression is that this is building to a crescendo. But in some ways I'm excited that there is finally some open discussion and push-back by average Americans. We have always had an illegal immigration problem but, for the first time in my adult life, we are talking about it. The topic of reparations has always been on a low simmer but for the first time, we can talk about it. No more hushed tones, subtle pointing, and innuendo. Democrats are forming a comity to studying the possibility of reparations and people like you and me are, for the first time, talking about it on public forums.

America's civil war was fought over state's rights. The straw that broke the camel's back was slaves rights. A few southern states had had enough of the Federal government telling them what to do. Their solution was to leave the established union and form the CSA - the Confederated States of America. Very similarly, today, a few states feel they can't live with Federal law. Despite clear Federal immigration laws, they have decided they can't and won't live with those laws and have declared themselves "sanctuary" zones. THIS is the foundation of the Civil War. Ironically, California, Colorado, New York and a few other states are the new confederates.

The people of America gave our current President a clear mandate when he was elected. Despite the USAToday posting for weeks that Hillary was going to win in a landslide, the people of America elected the person currently in office. The people of America spoke and our current President is actively working to fulfill his campaign promises. I know the people that lost the election aren't happy. I know that liberals were shocked and disappointed at Hillary's loss. Based on the last 30 years, they aren't used to loosing. I personally am coming off a 30 year political loosing streak and I can tell you from experience, those don't feel good. Still, we elected a President and it appears the People of America are getting what they wanted.

How will it end? Can't say. As I began, you ask difficult and scary questions.

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07-22-2019 08:34 AM  3 months ago
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Going back to post #2... Oregon has got a handle on this. They got it figured out.

"Oregon students will be able to take 'mental health days' off, thanks to teen activists."

I don't know. Maybe they got it right... But I have doubts.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...nts/1792221001/
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09-07-2019 08:20 PM  67 days ago
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What worries me is that most or all of our shipping ports and commercial harbors are in blue states.:I do a great decending funnel!
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09-14-2019 09:41 PM  60 days ago
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