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12-24-2018 05:02 PM  11 months ago
BeltFedBrowning

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It almost seemed toward the end that technology was becoming the hobby.
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12-24-2018 06:12 PM  11 months ago
Heli_Splatter

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BeltFedBrowning It almost seemed toward the end that technology was becoming the hobby.
The technology is what I enjoy the most about helicopters. What I don't like is the plankers bitching about everything helo pilots do. It has been a constant rub for 15 years at my field.
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12-24-2018 06:46 PM  11 months ago
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There is no one to blame but ourselves for the decline of the hobby.

It sure is easy to blame others, cost, technology, insert your favorite excuse here _____, and here____, and here ____, (as modelers we love excuses), but at the of the day the hobby has never been cheaper, easier, and offered so many options.

What is hard is recruiting. How many visited a local school this year and put on a demo? How many visited more than one school? How many invited their local scouting group to come out to the field? How many reached out to more than five local scouting groups? How many of you started or participated in a mall show or something else to promote the hobby or your club?

I hear all the same complaints over and over from several members in my club, but when it's time to roll up your sleeves and do real work, they are nowhere to be found; funny how that works.
  
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12-24-2018 09:27 PM  11 months ago
Heli Fanatix

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Planes point at heli > heli point at drones > be interesting to see the next progression

FYI
For every Technological advancement .. is followed by a Revolution [conflict]
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12-25-2018 11:58 AM  11 months ago
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Heli_Splatter The technology is what I enjoy the most about helicopters.
Me too, it was 100% the technology that made me give helis a try after flying planes for many years. it's nut that people bitch about there being too much technology when RC flying (and especially helis) is by it's nature a technological hobby.
For sure it's not technology that stops people coming into the hobby because the very same technology (electronic flight control systems) that you find in modern helis are also to be found in the fastest growing sector of the hobby (quads/drones).. Technology hasn't harmed their growth, in fact the very opposite, it's the amazing technology and how easy it makes them to fly that is the attraction.

Of course not everyone see it the same, some just arent comfortable with modern computerised technology and that's fine, you can still build a flybar heli if that's what you prefer.
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12-25-2018 05:12 PM  11 months ago
BeltFedBrowning

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Smoggie Technology hasn't harmed their growth
Are you referring to helis or drones? I would agree that the technology has made drones popular
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12-25-2018 05:39 PM  11 months ago
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Very easy diagnosis - no kids in the hobby. You can make up a hundred reasons why this is but the reason doesn't matter; no kids in the hobby.

My club of about 85 people has two teenagers, neither of which I've ever seen at the flying filed. Beyond those two our youngest pilots (only a few in number) are in their mid/late 40's. Virtually every time I go flying (at least three times a week) everyone at the field looks like me (I'm 75).
The older I get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.
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12-25-2018 08:25 PM  11 months ago
Heli Fanatix

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Boils down to not an influx of "New Interest"
- teenagers [adolescents]
- adults
- mid life crisiees
- retirees
- RC Hobby not growing

Coupled with the fact that there other "Options"
- Unbox and fly
- Enables instant gratification
- All the fun with minimal effort
- Almost no learning curve

The folks that complain don't want to learn fall in the above mentioned category. Those that understand and know what they want doesn’t complain and do what & learn what needs to be done.

Technology has made it simple for these type of Diseases of Attitude to gain Altitude [where they might of never had it off the ground] causing all kinds of havoc.
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12-25-2018 10:13 PM  11 months ago
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I don't think it's the expense. I am returning to the hobbie after more than a dozen years, and it costs much less to get started than it did then. I think a part of the problem is constantly discontinued helis and parts for those machines. When eflight makes a perfectly good machine worthless for lack of parts support (blade 400), which is intentional to cause you to buy a new one, people walk away rather than get ripped off again. A big thank you to companies like Align who still support things I flew more than a decade ago.
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12-26-2018 12:13 AM  11 months ago
Nitro Bird

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What makes you think that is has gone bust? You must not attend any events and see all of the people flying and having a good time.
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12-26-2018 12:56 AM  11 months ago
RM3

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Nitro Bird You must not attend any events and see all of the people flying and having a good time.
think of the retraction in the hobby like this... imagine the hobby like a bunch of ponds and puddles.... and now it hasn't rained in months and the water is drying up.... you're still in the deepest part so as far as you know, so your still surrounded by water... but for the rest of us out where the waters edge used to be years ago, the water has long since pulled away.

I quit going to the club field, good people, but no helis, and no youth. and honestly the're just too depressing to be around. model stores all all but gone, and the ones that have stayed (like the chain called Hobby Town) simply do not carry anything bigger than your OTC blade brand 250 class. even drones are seeing a pull back, it was a fad and it too is going away except for those interested in photography, or aerial video.

there was nothing wrong with the advancements in the technology, like FBL or high capacity LIPOs... they made it easier to fly for those that had the skills. But for those that wanted to be 3D heros, it was frustrating and expensive buying all the en vogue tech. they quickly gave up and went onto other things.

todays youth (like my son) simply are not interested in anything that involves dedication, time and sacrificial money. Its all about the latest smart phones, instagram and twitter... Facebook is for "old people"... its almost like a drug addiction and manufacturers have found the key to keeping the youth from aspiring to be great at anything that involves work... they have found the way to keep them locked to the screen and craving the attention it demands.

The hobby will survive, but it will be a very obscure hobby with a handfull of dedicated members and manufacturers (likely small high price very low volume stuff)

...people stll build model ships in bottles you know... we are simply the next in line.
showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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12-26-2018 12:21 PM  10 months ago
Smoggie

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BeltFedBrowning Are you referring to helis or drones? I would agree that the technology has made drones popular
Yes, that's precisely what I was referring too. There are a few in the hobby who would like to blame 'technology' and specifically the flybarless controller for the decline in popularity of the hobby.
This to me is delusional. Expecting the hobby to 'stand still' based on technology from 40 years ago, which these guys view through their rose tinted rear view mirror as some sort of utopian age, is just crazy.
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12-26-2018 12:28 PM  10 months ago
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In my case it is time, I work long hours through the week now as the economy dictates, days where I could shoot down the field for a couple of hours in work time are long gone, my kids are no longer kids so I have even less time, and I have gotten older and probably more grumpier lol, as I dont want to be standing in a field in the cold, ankle deep in mud...

I still fly the plank when I can and my faithful fury tempest, the turbine comes out on odd occasion, most of my hellies are no longer made, so downtime in event of accident is out for the rest of the year..

I dont think the hobby has gone bust I just think people have moved on,
All The Best
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12-26-2018 03:47 PM  10 months ago
RM3

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MattJen I dont think the hobby has gone bust I just think people have moved on,
This seems to me a very reasonable assertion ... the people that where part of the RC heli boom have indeed moved on. The hobby ‘s current problem is replacing those of us that are aging out of it. We simply do not have enough youth coming in to support even the current lot of manufacturers or online forums.
showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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12-26-2018 04:27 PM  10 months ago
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RM3 We simply do not have enough youth coming in to support even the current lot of manufacturers or online forums.
Absolutely,if you could fly our helicopters not drones or little toys, via an app we might have more interest.

My lads like the engineering but just cant be bothered with it, to them standing in a field in all weathers when they can be at home playing Rainbow 6 siege with his all his mates and other friends across the world in warmth..

half of them cannot hold a proper conversation or have any social skills. ( Rant Over LOL )
All The Best
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12-26-2018 04:38 PM  10 months ago
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Well it seems the future is all about simulated killing for fun, communicating using suggestive memes, pretending to be something your not by means of online identities and generally being incapable of doing anything for yourself without the use of a phone. Instead of working with our hands being outside and enjoying each others company

God help us all
showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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12-26-2018 07:18 PM  10 months ago
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RM3 Well it seems the future is all about simulated killing for fun, communicating using suggestive memes, pretending to be something your not by means of online identities and generally being incapable of doing anything for yourself without the use of a phone. Instead of working with our hands being outside and enjoying each others company
So, what is your real name ?? And I really don’t think that picture is really you , is it ??? LOL !
Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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12-26-2018 08:10 PM  10 months ago
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People are lazy in general. It's the modern world. As technology increases so will the laziness.

Don't worry about what the others are doing.

Our time is limited don't waste it on negativity.
spending time, paying attention
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12-26-2018 09:00 PM  10 months ago
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I no longer really care about what other people are doing. We need to just do what makes us happy as individuals.

What makes me happy? Two models. My Ergo 30 and my Freya. I’ve recently sold three of my helicopters, all FBL and now only have two remaining which are both flybar because they are the most enjoyable for me to fly. I have no interest in the digital side of this hobby anymore as it takes the true magic out of it. I really love the way a good flybar helicopter flies and my next helicopter will be a flybar Quest Neo Caliber 120-720.

I’m not alone in this because I recently discovered a group of flybar fliers who live nearby me who all share the same interest. We are all back doing what we originally entered the hobby for. I have at least three friends who fly multiple JR Ergo 30 and 60 helicopters and we all love them.

Mass produced FBL 3d has almost ruined this hobby for me and I can’t wait to see it disappear for ever. Just my 2 cents.
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12-26-2018 09:03 PM  10 months ago
BeltFedBrowning

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I get strange looks at the field when I tell them I don't have a driven tail for autos
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