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11-07-2018 03:23 AM  8 days agoPost 1
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11-07-2018 10:14 AM  8 days agoPost 2
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WoooHooooo! Texas and Florida stays red! The two most expensive races (minus presidential) ever and the still lost! Ha, Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

But a side of me weeps that Beto got as many votes as he did...very disturbing.

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11-07-2018 01:22 PM  8 days agoPost 3
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And Americans voted to put THIS back in charge....very, very discouraging...

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11-07-2018 02:44 PM  8 days agoPost 4
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It might have been close until California weighed in with their 54 seats. There is a LOT of red on this chart but most of the population (legal or otherwise) lives in the blue so that is where the seats are.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2018/results/house

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11-07-2018 04:58 PM  8 days agoPost 5
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and that there folks is why we need to bar people on welfare and without citizenship from voting... all they do is vote for more welfare and less law enforcement... perpetuating the very problems they are inundated with and keeping their masters rich.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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11-07-2018 09:13 PM  7 days agoPost 6
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Actually, if you will check the specs, more uneducated and poor vote Republican. The Democratic vote is usually more educated. No I am not creating alternative facts, these are just facts.

There are many studies/polls that show this, but here is one from Pew in March of 2018:

When it comes to education, the parties have switched places over the past two decades.
According to a Pew Research Center poll released this week, Democrats are now the party of college graduates, especially those with post-graduate work. Meanwhile, people with a high-school degree or less, by far the larger group, slightly lean toward Republicans.
Both preferences are the reverse of what they were in the 1990s.
According to Pew, 54 percent of college graduates either identified as Democrats or leaned Democratic, compared to 39 percent who identified or leaned Republican. One-third of Americans have a college degree.

Just 25 years ago, those numbers were perfectly reversed in the Pew survey, with the GOP holding a 54-39 advantage among people with college degrees.The discrepancy becomes even greater when Pew distilled the sample down to people who have post-graduate education — at least some work toward a master’s, doctorate, law or similar degree. In that group, Democrats had a 2-to-1 edge, by 63 percent to 31 percent. In 1994, the two parties were almost evenly divided, with the Democratic lead just 47-45.“While some of this shift took place a decade ago, postgraduate voters’ affiliation with and leaning to the Democratic Party have grown substantially just over the past few years, from 55% in 2015 to 63% in 2017,” Pew wrote.
Pew did not attempt to explain the shift among the well-educated to Democrats, though Republicans over the past several decades have become increasingly skeptical of the higher education industry, seeing it as a politically-correct enclave inherently hostile to them.

At the same time, though, the working class and those with less formal education have been shifting Republican, especially among whites.The latest Pew survey showed that 47 percent of people whose highest educational achievement is a high-school diploma at least leaned Republican, while 45 percent favored the Democrats to some degree.In 1994, those numbers were also nearly reversed, with Democrats holding a 47-42 advantage. And like the shift among the post-graduate-educated, this shift has also been a recent phenomenon, as Democrats held that same 47-42 lead as recently as 2014.
These partisanship changes intersect with with race, as they have occurred almost entirely among whites, as the Democrats have consistently had an overwhelming advantage among minorities — at all educational levels — for decades.

Despite their strong advantage among the college-educated as a whole, the Democratic lead among white college graduates with no postgraduate work is only 49 percent to 46 percent. However, as recently as 2015, the GOP had the edge, and a more-substantial one at that — 51 percent to 43 percent.

“By contrast,” Pew noted, “white voters with no more than a high school education have moved more to the GOP over the last 10 years, though there has been little change since 2015. As recently as 2009, these voters were divided in leaned partisanship. Since then, Republicans have held significant advantages, including a 23-percentage-point lead in 2017 (58% Republican, 35% Democratic).”
The Pew study, which is based on interviews with 10,245 registered voters in 2017, has an error margin of 1.1 percentage points.

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11-07-2018 10:23 PM  7 days agoPost 7
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chas1025
Actually, if you will check the specs, more uneducated and poor vote Republican. The Democratic vote is usually more educated.
Not in Texas... look at the border areas... all blue except for 5, the other blue are tree hugging weirdo central Austin, Shoot you in the face Houston, and crack pipe Dallas... you mean to tell me all the "no speakally engrish" crowd I have to deal with when visiting family are educated and well off?

last time I checked the poorest and overcrowded areas are predominantly democratic. the rich educated in these "areas" make up only a tiny fraction of the population.

every time you mention the word "republican", rich SOB is often uttered by a democrat in response.

those studies must have been the same source for the predictions that Hillary had a 98% chance of winning in 2016...

High school students and college students are often too stupid to know anything about the reality of political affiliation, quite honestly due to experience and mental maturity, people under the age of 25 really have little business voting... Bernie Sanders a political contender ring a bell?

how bout Pelosi and Waters, their areas? another reason the Pew research center is full of peanut filled cat $hit.

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11-07-2018 11:04 PM  7 days agoPost 8
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chas1025
Actually, if you will check the specs, more uneducated and poor vote Republican. The Democratic vote is usually more educated. No I am not creating alternative facts, these are just facts.
Our kids getting out of college are real smart. The indoctrination is insidious. I am under-educated, poor and vote republican.

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11-07-2018 11:45 PM  7 days agoPost 9
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People that vote Democrat are a prime example of educated dummies

education and intelligence
are two totally separate things

ageing is manditory maturity is optional

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11-08-2018 02:20 AM  7 days agoPost 10
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I feel kids coming out of college are very intelligent. I do not think they are the downfall of society, I am amazed at the new creations and ideas that are coming out of young minds now.

This does not change the facts of voting statistics. Many years ago the Republican party was the party of education and success, now it has become the party of fear, loathing, and despair.

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11-08-2018 02:41 AM  7 days agoPost 11
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Aren't Universities the places where they invented "safe spaces" with crayons and coloring books? Something has gone very very wrong.

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11-08-2018 03:58 AM  7 days agoPost 12
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Aren't Universities the places where they invented "safe spaces" with crayons and coloring books? Something has gone very very wrong.
my God don't say that, some one will get up set

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11-08-2018 10:50 AM  7 days agoPost 13
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Aren't Universities the places where they invented "safe spaces" with crayons and coloring books? Something has gone very very wrong.
Yeah "safe space" thats where "snowflakes" go out of despair and fear of the
loathsome people that expect them to work and be contributing members of society

These safe spaces were invented by Universities and are used when the flakes cant organize a demonstration/riot in time to vent there frustrations on working peoples businesses and property by destroying them

ageing is manditory maturity is optional

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11-08-2018 02:00 PM  7 days agoPost 14
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Actually, if you will check the specs, more uneducated and poor vote Republican. The Democratic vote is usually more educated. No I am not creating alternative facts, these are just facts.

There are many studies/polls that show this, but here is one from Pew in March of 2018:

When it comes to education, the parties have switched places over the past two decades.
At the risk of repeating myself... "There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics". The quote suggest that a statistic is somewhere below a damn lie.

I find it less than coincidental that Pew's findings nearly parallel the trust's own transformation. Just because it is called a "Charitable Trust" doesn't mean it isn't a political organization. I suggest some reading. Here is a start. https://www.influencewatch.org/non-...ritable-trusts/

But beyond Pew, statistics can give the appearance of being simple to understand facts when they are anything but. Here is an example:

White people represent 64% of the American population but only 39% of the people incarcerated. Or put another way, 450 out of 100,000 white people in America are in prison. Blacks and Hispanics represent 29% of the American population and nearly 60% of the prison population. Or, 2,306 blacks out of 100,000 are in prison.* Quod Erat Demonstrandum. QED. I have proven that Blacks and Hispanics are less desirable citizens in America. The statistics seem to present an indisputable fact.

'nough said.

But it's hardly that simple. Maybe what these statistics have measured is the relative wealth of the prison population and all these statistics imply is that Blacks and Hispanics are poorer. Maybe it isn't that Blacks and Hispanics are less law-abiding, maybe it's that they are more impoverished.

Maybe my simple statistics have uncovered this: Being impoverished leads to a greater risk of imprisonment. Acquiring wealth in America has moved from making things to knowing things. Getting a job that pays money in America is now more reliant on what you can do with your head than your hands. Maybe the prison statistics reflects this shift and nothing more. People that don't or can't work with their heads are having more difficulty finding jobs, are increasingly living below the poverty level, and are more likely to end up in the prison system. In short - making money in America is now about using your head. Failure to do so leads to poverty which leads to prison. Ipso facto. I've proven Hispanics and Blacks aren't as smart.

Depending on your perspective, maybe the only thing exposed by the statistics I presented is a racial bias of police.?.? Some would look at these same statistics and use them as irrefutable proof of the bias of the law. How else could you intemperate them?

All of a sudden very simply prison statistics seem more available for interpretation.

The quote from Pew has a LOT of statistic in it. You suggest that Pew has measured a shift to Democrats being the educated and intelligent party. Maybe. Or, maybe all they have measured is a shift of the demographics of college students. I certainly don't know, but maybe all they have uncovered is a movement of dimwits into higher education. Is it possible that the PEW research confirms that what were uneducated Democrats 20 years ago, are now College Democrats? Just because someone has a college degree in coaching doesn't mean they have moved into the ranks of great thinkers.

The Democratic party is pushing for free college education for all. If that comes to be and every prison inmate goes to college, a group that I would suggest is registered as Democrat, could you then say statistics prove the Democratic party is rapidly becoming the party of the educated? Could you concluded a shift in the demographics of Democratic party? Or, would you conclude a shift in what it means to be "educated"?

Alright. That was a long post to say there are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.

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* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incar...e_United_States

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11-08-2018 02:42 PM  7 days agoPost 15
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Is it possible that the PEW research confirms that 20 years ago what were uneducated Democrats, are now College Democrats? Just because someone has a college degree in coaching doesn't mean someone has moved into the ranks of the great thinkers.
Having gone back to college 6 years ago after being in the military I can attest that for my area that most young college graduates are only "book" smart... but have no experience and have very little ability to tie cause and effect based on historical and real world evidence. Its not only that... more and more graduates are going to liberal studies and avoiding STEM degrees altogether because they fear or hate the idea of doing alot of math and science classes...
This is why in my area over half of the graduating class are business majors. The year I graduated I was the only one in that semester to earn a Computer science degree... the same happened a year later when I earned my Masters in Information Systems... More and more college students are avoiding degrees that actually require hard work in favor of softer degrees where creativity and imagination are valued.... then proceed to bitch when they cant find a job, go back to college AGAIN and go get another worthless degree... building up student debt and living with mom and dad till their early 30s.
Until a college graduate that works a real job whom is exposed to more than one culture (besides their own) only then do they realize that liberal policies that first seemed the right thing to do actually lead to socialism and a failed state... then they lean to the side of "conservatives" when they become aware that people are taking advantage of them, taking their hard earned money for nothing in return... and the harder they work the more freeloaders take from them.

just my 2 cents

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11-08-2018 03:08 PM  7 days agoPost 16
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If a horse wears blinders, it only sees what is in front of him, his world is small. He is afraid of what he cannot see. Take off the blinders and the world becomes an incredible place of opportunity and beauty. Education takes off the blinders and opens up the world to possibility.

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11-08-2018 03:16 PM  7 days agoPost 17
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chas1025
If a horse wears blinders, it only sees what is in front of him, his world is small. He is afraid of what he cannot see. Take off the blinders and the world becomes an incredible place of opportunity and beauty. Education takes off the blinders and opens up the world to possibility.
I am afraid of your logic. 60+ million deplorables and counting.

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11-08-2018 03:32 PM  7 days agoPost 18
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chas1025
If a horse wears blinders, it only sees what is in front of him, his world is small. He is afraid of what he cannot see. Take off the blinders and the world becomes an incredible place of opportunity and beauty. Education takes off the blinders and opens up the world to possibility.
Lovely. Complete BS but it'd make a nice refrigerator magnet.

I went to college and have a BS in Pure and Applied Mathematics. Just before graduating, and still without a job, I choose to take the courses required to become a teacher. My thinking was that with a teaching certificate, I'll always be able to get a job. To have a teaching certificate you had to declare a minor. I declared Physics.

When I was in the teaching curriculum, 60% of the students were Physical Education majors with a declared minor in Coaching. While I was taking Number Theory and Real Analysis, 60% of the people around me were in their 4th year of college with "labs" in ping-pong.

As you might guess I didn't see people exposed to a world of incredible opportunity and beauty. I saw uneducated lazy people in their 3rd year of college approaching a state of panic as they realized they weren't going to find a job with a PE degree.

"Well, Nothing bad can happen now."

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11-08-2018 04:14 PM  7 days agoPost 19
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Another great refrigerator magnet: Hehehe

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11-08-2018 04:23 PM  7 days agoPost 20
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Education takes off the blinders and opens up the world to possibility.
or it can put the blinders on... education is given by educators... and bias by an educator can effectively brainwash a student due to the trust a student (often very impressionable too) places in the educator to be truthful and un-biased.

Education was never meant to teach you what to think... it was meant to teach you to think for yourself by giving you the tools to do so. Today we are seeing many teachers at highschool and below fall victim to avoiding conflict... therefore they essentially are controlled by students and parents, which in turn leads to the whole everybody wins BS, everyone gets a trophy, and no one fails... the administrators care about numbers, the more students they get, the more money they receive. How do I know this? My mother retired from a highschool in South Texas after 30 years of service, My step mother after 25 years as a HS teacher.

In colleges and universities professors and adjucts are often subjected to course reviews submitted by students... this essentially leads professors without tenure to fall into a need to be favored by the students... basically becomes a popularity contest to keep their job if in a professional track. How do I know this? my wife has been a University professor for the last 6 years and sees it first hand. If the professor earns tenure they then have a permanent job... they then see themselves as leaders, and often impart their views upon their students, and students in their drive to get the best grades reciprocate by affirming the professors beliefs.

What we often end up with is with very politically biased professors with no experience outside their university... they become kings and queens, high pay, little responsibility, and savor molding young minds into their image... we then end up with students that are nothing more than reflections of the professors they favored.

To truely open up the world of possibility one needs only do one thing early in life:

Join the military and serve in multiple duty stations around the world in both combat and support roles for at least 8 - 15 years. you get to not only experience different cultures around the world, but also work with different races and socio-economic levels of people from your own country both military and civilian. You will then experience the world in its raw form, the people both rich and poor, both kind and evil... and it will open your eyes to the truth.

this anger over the lack of a Blue wave, this anger to bring down the President at all costs, is all based in fact due to lack of exposure to the world for what it truly is and how people really are at their core. and none of this can be learnt by sitting at home and finding studies on the internet that support your views and theories.

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