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12-05-2019 01:21 AM  6 months ago
drdot

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Hi...

RappyTappy right on target...
My next move is to start an anti FAA website..I will be asking full scale pilots to give me dirt on ANY misfeasance by the FAA..I intend to do all I can to discredit this ridiculous regulatory body..
Antifa is good at doxxing..gonna take a page from their book.
Good times, boys....

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12-05-2019 01:34 AM  6 months ago
revmix

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drdot this ridiculous regulatory body
follow the law & not your belief so hence the FAR
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12-05-2019 02:19 AM  6 months ago
1helimech

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......I dream of a better world, A world where a chicken's crossing a road IS NOT questioned
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12-05-2019 02:45 AM  6 months ago
revmix

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1helimech still
the fact is FAR part 101.41 & any personal take is just foolish so go by the hobby rules
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12-29-2019 05:10 PM  5 months ago
AirWolfRC

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Got this from another forum I'm on . . . applies here

Hi Guys,

I’m feeling a little more optimistic about the FAA proposals. I asked the COO for the company I fly for now and his wife out to dinner last evening with my wife. One of the topics of conversation was the sweeping overreach of the FAA.

My good friend and colleague is an Air Force Academy graduate, former fighter pilot instructor and airline pilot prior to becoming a partner and COO for the company I contract with now. John is the chief liaison with the FAA for the company and serves on a major FAA advisory panel. He has been aware of these draconian proposals for months he said.

I won’t attempt to transcribe the details of our discussion and I wouldn’t want to tell any tales out of school anyway, but I can offer the bottom line of what he told me for what’s it’s worth. John is quite confident that the proposal as it’s written now will be not accepted by union and senior FAA officials.

John’s reasoning is the FAA is already overburdened and said officials will not want to add to their work load by signing off on more rules that they have neither the manpower, nor the operating budget, to enforce. Especially since AMA members have had a fifty year plus track record of not posing a problem.

I asked John how confident he is about this? He replied “very confident”. Even though John’s not an RC hobby guy, he’s asked me to teach him to fly RC sometime and he concurs wholeheartedly that the new proposals are ridiculous and totally unnecessary as far as we RC hobbyists are concerned.

My friend and colleague is a very straight shooter, literally as well as figuratively (Olympic class marksman), so I’m feeling somewhat better about it even though no one’s crystal ball is infallible. For my part, I’m circulating the you tube video Jim provided to everyone I can think of and urging them to protest adamantly at every opportunity. I hope everyone else does the same.
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12-29-2019 05:51 PM  5 months ago
Andy from Sandy

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he concurs wholeheartedly that the new proposals are ridiculous and totally unnecessary as far as we RC hobbyists are concerned.
Of course but the legislation comes about through the ignorance of those that know no better and not in the hobby.

It is clearly flogging a dead horse to talk about any law is introduced because of a minority that will affect the majority.
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12-30-2019 02:30 AM  5 months ago
drdot

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Check out thw new nprm...These people are trying to destroy the hobby.....We need to do anything we can to stop them...If you have any dirt on the FAA please send it to me.

John..
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12-31-2019 02:07 AM  5 months ago
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Listening heretrex 700fbl cal30,minititan,, trx600fbl,trex250,logo 500,Velocity N2
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12-31-2019 04:04 AM  5 months ago
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drdot Check out thw new nprm...These people are trying to destroy the hobby.....We need to do anything we can to stop them...If you have any dirt on the FAA please send it to me.

John..
Do we really need any more dirt beyond the already well known and publicized failure of the FAA by allowing the Boeing folks to self certify the 737 Max, thereby being responsible directly for the deaths of hundreds of people?
I only need ONE more heli... just one more than I have... :)
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12-31-2019 06:50 AM  5 months ago
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fivespeed Do we really need any more dirt beyond the already well known and publicized failure of the FAA by allowing the Boeing folks to self certify the 737 Max, thereby being responsible directly for the deaths of hundreds of people?
Actually; all we can get. These people (FAA) aren't the final arbiter of the best use of available airspace in the US. They can't keep any of these pilots and aircraft from destroying aircraft, killing people and damaging property. Their record speaks for itself but I believe if a little is enough, more is better. Model Aviation has NOTHING that compares with the FAA's dismal record of safety, education or regulation. Imagine a certificated Part 107 pilot and I use that term very loosely, can get a certificate with ZERO flight hours and NO dual instruction. How can this be?

There are 989,927,637,811,200 cubic feet of airspace in the CONUS. I have to believe there will be room for some modeling flying in that space.
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12-31-2019 04:04 PM  5 months ago
fivespeed

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TMoore Actually; all we can get. These people (FAA) aren't the final arbiter of the best use of available airspace in the US. They can't keep any of these pilots and aircraft from destroying aircraft, killing people and damaging property. Their record speaks for itself but I believe if a little is enough, more is better. Model Aviation has NOTHING that compares with the FAA's dismal record of safety, education or regulation. Imagine a certificated Part 107 pilot and I use that term very loosely, can get a certificate with ZERO flight hours and NO dual instruction. How can this be?

There are 989,927,637,811,200 cubic feet of airspace in the CONUS. I have to believe there will be room for some modeling flying in that space.
Good points!
I only need ONE more heli... just one more than I have... :)
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01-01-2020 03:49 AM  5 months ago
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The general public needs to be aware that this regulation will allow commercial drones en masse to be flying over peoples houses and heads. Use the FAA's fire, fear mongering drones to the general public, against them. We need more than the hobby community to defeat this...Still buyin' and flyin' then crashing and cryin'
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01-07-2020 05:47 AM  5 months ago
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To paraphrase Groucho Marx; Remote ID is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.Part 107.
The only ZERO flight hour certificate in the world.
It's like getting a driver's license without the driver's test.
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01-07-2020 03:39 PM  5 months ago
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01-10-2020 08:27 PM  4 months ago
RappyTappy

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In the proposed rule, it is stated that after 3 years, all RC aircraft will have to have remote ID manufactured into it or not be allowed to be sold. So, my question is, what about indoor RC flight for foamies, small helis, small drones for racing ECT?

Indoor RC flight is completely ignored and forgotten about. Does the FAA control the air inside structures now too?

There have been drone FPV racing competitions inside large warehouses or closed air stadiums. Plenty of model shows with a indoor flight area netted off that I've seen even 700 size helis fly in!

The FAA has gone drunk with power! This does nothing to stop bad people from doing bad things !
Still buyin' and flyin' then crashing and cryin'
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01-10-2020 08:55 PM  4 months ago
AirWolfRC

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The FAA has gone drunk with power! This does nothing to stop bad people from doing bad things !

I completely agree - - they think that existing laws aren't enough
- - must be democrats !
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01-11-2020 04:11 PM  4 months ago
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Must be Republicans!!!
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01-21-2020 12:52 PM  4 months ago
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OK fellas it's all over but the shouting. Once you open up the door to these ass holes you should just go and hang your selves. This write in campaign is a waste of time.These feds already have their minds made up and me and you are not going to stand in their way. Too many payola's in too many peoples pockets for us to make any difference. I guess my guns and my airplanes will make me two different ways the feds will want to see me about their laws.trex 700fbl cal30,minititan,, trx600fbl,trex250,logo 500,Velocity N2
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01-21-2020 04:28 PM  4 months ago
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There was a "drone operations" meeting late last week at my local regional airport. The Airport Director conducts it every year, and invites the FAA, TSA, USAF and local University UAS pilots to present.

It was informative, but I was most interested in the FAA guy's talk. He basically said all of this stuff is coming. The knowledge test is a go, but not implemented yet. It's the remoteID part that I'm struggling with. The FAA Seems hell-bent on making this a reality. That, and the fact that you can't just go fly like we could the past 50 years. This guy said you're going to have to be at an authorized field....According to him, even a test-hover in your back yard will be against regs (unless your back yard is an authorized site, whatever that criteria and certification is).

He mentioned training programs by FAA offices to get your local sherrif/police officers knowledgeable on the regs. He claimed that this has been slowly ramping up, and everyone has just been relaxed on the enforcement part. This will change very soon, according to him.

We'll see how it shakes out, but I get the feeling that it is about to get real uncomfortable for RC hobbyists. Just putting your registration number on the model isn't enough...you have to have your registration card AND the proof of knowledge test (if/when that is ever created) on your person when flying at an approved site. This guy was an FAA enforcement guy too.

One of the more eyebrow-raising parts was the USAF safety officer's notes on drone sightings by pilots at the local AF Base. Several >10,000' sightings. They can't see it on radar, and at the speeds the T38s are going...not good. They'll never see it.

Overall, a good informative meeting. Especially for those drone folk who's skillset is defined by a credit card. There were a lot of those, too.
J. B. Jones
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01-22-2020 10:54 AM  4 months ago
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would be great if all of model aviation folks tookup freeflight building and just start turning loose class A,B,C freeflight models loose all over America and upset the system and the powergrab. No control, just big balsa and tissue one time use let'em go freeflight planes floating all over any altitude the thermals take them too, we don't need no stinkin' 400 feet.RapRexSynLogo Pilot
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