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10-10-2018 05:49 AM  11 days agoPost 1
dilberteinstein

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https://hooktube.com/watch?v=QdyUeOJn5Aw

I can't the above video to play here, so you'll have to click on the above link to get it to play. It will play at hooktube or youtube.

Enjoy

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10-10-2018 04:24 PM  11 days agoPost 2
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what's new? more partisan theatrics. That's all.

I'm not interested in left vs. right. I'm interested in good ideas for social policies to prevail. I'm interested in good organic economic growth. I'm interested in a healthier society and improving quality of life.

All of those things are NOT dependent on a single person, but our collective efforts. This is what's wrong with society today.

Notice how everything he said was about 'us' democrats and 'them' republicans. Notice how everything was portrayed to hinge on the candidate, rather than ideas.

When you strip it down, this is nothing more than a cheap push to mobilize democrats. Not uplifting, but it can be effective.
The tactic is to create a sense of urgency, time is running out, the stakes are high, you are the underdog. To complement the tactic, inject some anger. You are going to lose, they are laughing at you, nobody believes you can do it.

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10-10-2018 08:29 PM  11 days agoPost 3
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When you strip it down, this is nothing more than a cheap push to mobilize democrats. Not uplifting, but it can be effective.
The tactic is to create a sense of urgency, time is running out, the stakes are high, you are the underdog. To complement the tactic, inject some anger. You are going to lose, they are laughing at you, nobody believes you can do it
well as I always say, it takes a dirty man to do a dirty job and Mike is up for it as usual

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10-10-2018 09:20 PM  11 days agoPost 4
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Jabba the FatA$$ has spoken . . . does anyone actually care?

The only reason I see it as at all party related, is because the Dimotards appear to be the only ones trying to float unconstitutional/communist/socialist/violation of personal freedoms/massively destructive agendas. Honestly, I have not seen a single idea from a Dim that wasn't full retard bad in many, many years . . . I see none of that from the other side, just a desire to adhere to the laws of the US and the Constitution upon which they are founded.

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10-10-2018 09:42 PM  11 days agoPost 5
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The only reason I see it as at all party related, is because the Dimotards appear to be the only ones trying to float unconstitutional/communist/socialist/violation of personal freedoms/massively destructive agendas. Honestly, I have not seen a single idea from a Dim that wasn't full retard bad in many, many years . . . I see none of that from the other side, just a desire to adhere to the laws of the US and the Constitution upon which they are founded.
I wouldn't go that far. This is where we have to be careful in our language. Unlike president Trump, we need to learn the meaning of the words: always, never, everybody and nobody. To claim that EVERY idea coming from the democrats is full retard is simply an exaggerated claim, a detachment from reality or simply a very biased viewed.

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10-11-2018 01:49 AM  10 days agoPost 6
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To claim that EVERY idea coming from the democrats is full retard is simply an exaggerated claim, a detachment from reality or simply a very biased viewed.
with all the BS the democrats have spewed in the last 2 years without proof, I kind of agree with tadawson, unless you want more on Trump's like of Coke-a-Cola,, it's like this> don't hate the man because he's beautiful, hate him because he drinks Coke twice a day,, ridicules

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10-11-2018 03:26 AM  10 days agoPost 7
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Honestly, I have not seen a single idea from a Dim that wasn't full retard bad in many, many years . . . I see none of that from the other side, just a desire to adhere to the laws of the US and the Constitution upon which they are founded.
The Democrats not only don't present solutions, they are becoming more and more radical as they call for violence against the right.

Now Hillary has stated that things can't be civil until they get what they want.

The Democrats are becoming more and more dangerous.

Which leaves us with only one choice: GOP.

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10-11-2018 04:37 AM  10 days agoPost 8
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tekparasite
To claim that EVERY idea coming from the democrats is full retard is simply an exaggerated claim, a detachment from reality or simply a very biased viewed.
with all the BS the democrats have spewed in the last 2 years without proof, I kind of agree with tadawson, unless you want more on Trump's like of Coke-a-Cola,, it's like this> don't hate the man because he's beautiful, hate him because he drinks Coke twice a day,, ridicules
It could be that we're thinking about two totally different scenarios. For example, one 'left' idea that comes to mind is legalizing pot. I support that idea based on my libertarian way of thinking. We don't need a nanny state to protect us from ourselves. I really don't see how conservatism has a strong position in this topic.

On the other hand, you may be thinking of cases where democrats are criticizing the president because he drinks coke twice a day. In your example, I would have to agree. That type of criticism is simply weak at best.

But I would argue that those types of comments aren't limited to the left. Let's not forget when conservatives on the right criticized Obama for his tan suit, for using Dijon mustard on his burger, for playing golf (ahem - don't hear about that very much given today's circumstances), for his middle name, and the list goes on and on.

Don't cherry pick low hanging fruits (which in this case both parties have plenty of those). If you want to be intellectually honest, you will concede that not every left idea is bad and not every right idea is good.

If you don't see that, you do fall into one of these categories:
tekparasite
.... an exaggerated claim, a detachment from reality or simply a very biased view.

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10-11-2018 10:36 AM  10 days agoPost 9
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Jabba the FatA$$ has spoken . . . does anyone actually care?

Nicely said. Could careless what this POS walking lard sack has to say.

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10-11-2018 01:50 PM  10 days agoPost 10
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Today we will discuss bias opinion and bad arguments:

Exhibit A.
dilberteinstein
The Democrats not only don't present solutions, they are becoming more and more radical as they call for violence against the right.

Now Hillary has stated that things can't be civil until they get what they want.

The Democrats are becoming more and more dangerous.

Which leaves us with only one choice: GOP.

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10-11-2018 04:01 PM  10 days agoPost 11
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honstly I could care less what Moore says.

ideas are ideas, opinions are just ideas based on personal bias... nothing more.

the truth is an idea should be explored if it can advance a people without doing harm to both the people and their environment. I dont care if it was a democrats idea, a libertarian, Independent or republican or a squid from the Marianas Trench.

but keep in mind everything has positive and negative effects... the choice then becomes how to deal with the repercussions of such implemented ideas.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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10-11-2018 05:12 PM  10 days agoPost 12
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RM3
honstly I could care less what Moore says.

ideas are ideas, opinions are just ideas based on personal bias... nothing more.

the truth is an idea should be explored if it can advance a people without doing harm to both the people and their environment. I dont care if it was a democrats idea, a libertarian, Independent or republican or a squid from the Marianas Trench.

but keep in mind everything has positive and negative effects... the choice then becomes how to deal with the repercussions of such implemented ideas.
I'm in your camp in this topic.

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10-13-2018 10:01 PM  8 days agoPost 13
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Legalize it
I have been saying for over a year, how Trump can calm the masses.
Leagalize pot an most of the younger Democrats will all vote for Trump.
Although, I am not, nor will never be a pot smoker it will calm the Left.

It didn't help Colorado or Amsterdam, but at least Tek will have to admit that Trump is a good president.
**Hate him....but Trump is clever.
He was rich and doesn't need to steal from the American people to become rich. You have to respect that much.

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10-13-2018 11:21 PM  7 days agoPost 14
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raholek
Legalize it
I have been saying for over a year, how Trump can calm the masses.
Leagalize pot an most of the younger Democrats will all vote for Trump.
Although, I am not, nor will never be a pot smoker it will calm the Left.

It didn't help Colorado or Amsterdam, but at least Tek will have to admit that Trump is a good president.
**Hate him....but Trump is clever.
He was rich and doesn't need to steal from the American people to become rich. You have to respect that much.
The goal is not declare winners or losers. The goal is to promote and implement ideas that make sense for society. One thing this country is known for is for maximizing personal freedoms. Creating a society that dictates what you can and cannot do goes contrary to what this country was founded on. I have never used pot and don't have plans to use it in the future even if it's legal. If your stance to legalize is only to appease the opposition or to gain votes, you are going at it the wrong way.

If you feel that pot should remain illegal, by all means defend that position.

The knee jerk reaction from most folks here is to think that I hate Trump because I bring criticism. I don't. I want him to become the best president he can be because if he does, we will all benefit from that.

Saying Trump is a 'good' or a 'bad' president is too generic of a term because that role is complex. People are complex too. One person can be stellar at one thing but fail miserably at some other thing.

Take for example, Ben Carson. Kudos to him on his accomplishment as a neurosurgeon. But I can't say the same thing about him when it comes to history (Pyramids). Is he smart or is he an idiot? Well, it depends on what subject.

The same goes for Trump. Is he clever? Well, clever for doing what? Fooling people? Taking the back door? Going around the law? Using the media to his advantage? Negotiating? Convincing people?

You have to be more specific.

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10-15-2018 03:53 PM  6 days agoPost 15
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To claim that EVERY idea coming from the democrats is full retard is simply an exaggerated claim, a detachment from reality or simply a very biased viewed.
I said that everything I have seen has been full retard, and I stand behind that observation. The dems have been epic fail for years . . . that doesn't mean that won't change tomorrow (but I'm not making any bets . . . ) but what *I* have observed has been 100% accurate. (About the only thing I can fault the other side for is not having Hildegaard the Destroyer and O'Bumbles the Insignificant in prison yet . . . ).

Friends don't let friends become electrotarded . . . .

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10-16-2018 03:17 AM  5 days agoPost 16
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tekparasite
To claim that EVERY idea coming from the democrats is full retard is simply an exaggerated claim, a detachment from reality or simply a very biased viewed.
I said that everything I have seen has been full retard, and I stand behind that observation. The dems have been epic fail for years . . . that doesn't mean that won't change tomorrow (but I'm not making any bets . . . ) but what *I* have observed has been 100% accurate. (About the only thing I can fault the other side for is not having Hildegaard the Destroyer and O'Bumbles the Insignificant in prison yet . . . ).
Yes.. that's what I said.. That you made that claim. I didn't say EVERY republican thinks that way. I was commenting on your claim. And I still believe that you are falling into one of those categories I mentioned.

I even gave you one example where your claim doesn't seem to fit your observation. If the ONLY thing you see from the other side is Hillary not in prison, then that's more evidence that you are fitting very nice into those categories.

Just sayin'

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10-16-2018 03:29 AM  5 days agoPost 17
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Democritters are 90% full retard these days IMO. I would say it was 50% retard back in the 1990s but they have progressively lost their damn minds ever since, especially the last couple years.

Bill Clintoon was a horndog weasle, but at least in those days he understood the importance of legal system, and the self defeating nature of ignoring laws, ballanced budget,,, he was a proponent of stoping illegal aliens, as i recall few if any gave him sh!t about it. Now even he is completely lost in the brain rotting virus of moderm liberalism. Sad but also more than a little frighteneing.

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10-16-2018 04:02 AM  5 days agoPost 18
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Democritters are 90% full retard these days IMO. I would say it was 50% retard back in the 1990s but they have progressively lost their damn minds ever since, especially the last couple years.

Bill Clintoon was a horndog weasle, but at least in those days he understood the importance of legal system, and the self defeating nature of ignoring laws, ballanced budget,,, he was a proponent of stoping illegal aliens, as i recall few if any gave him sh!t about it. Now even he is completely lost in the brain rotting virus of moderm liberalism. Sad but also more than a little frighteneing.
Just for future reference the words: ALWAYS, EVERY, ALL, relate to totality. 100%. In your case, you meant to say MOST if you are thinking 90%.

Again, just because the president can't figure out the meaning of the words ALWAYS, NEVER, EVERYBODY and NOBODY doesn't mean it's a good thing.

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10-16-2018 04:56 AM  5 days agoPost 19
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Again, just because the president can't figure out the meaning of the words ALWAYS, NEVER, EVERYBODY and NOBODY doesn't mean it's a good thing.
oh yes, as O'Boomed'us had show'd us

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10-17-2018 03:26 PM  4 days agoPost 20
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Again, just because the president can't figure out the meaning of the words ALWAYS, NEVER, EVERYBODY and NOBODY doesn't mean it's a good thing.
oh yes, as O'Boomed'us had show'd us
Sorry if you got triggered. This is not baseless criticism. He really doesn't use those terms properly. Trump is in a high position (take that back THE HIGHEST POSITION) that requires attention to those details.

Your reply suggests that you are still hung up on this democratic vs. republican bandwagon.

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