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09-06-2018 02:12 PM  70 days agoPost 1
sjgusmc21

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This bothers me a great deal. Not because of the content of the 'anonymous' tipster, but how far our politic's have sunk from setting the example (albeit not perfectly) to the world how a government for the people and by the people should work.

Whether Red or Blue, Liberal or Conservative, as an American, this should really make you pause and think how bad off our legislatures really are. How many of you have been watching the Kavanaugh hearings? Talk about a 3 ring circus....mostly by the Democrats, but guilt on both sides.
And then there is Bob Woodward's 'Fear' book. Does it not seem highly suspicious that both of these items came out on the 1st and 2nd days of Kavanaugh's hearings?

Lets say that the 'anonymous' poster's leaks are true. How much do you think this has hurt the Office of the President? What do you think would have happened if all of the scandalous affairs, memo's, etc had of leaked out during Hoover, Roosevelt's (later), the Kennedy's Presidencies? Utter chaos I can only guess. Again, just because you CAN, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

So if this 'anonymous' poster is so concerned about the 'grave' danger our county is in with a President that is 'petty, childish, poor decision maker', etc, WHERE'S THE PROOF?

I could go on and on and on. But if you for one minute think we have not reached the dark depth's or 3rd World Politics, you are mistaken. I have no doubt that we are now the laughing stock on the world stage. I also do not believe we will recover from this. Obama said not to long ago, that he feared that he tried to bring 'change' on too quickly and too much at once.

Loyalty....a lost word in our language apparently. Not to be confused with 'blind loyalty'.

Thank you Obama. Your legacy certainly will be remembered.

'We truly are in a world of sh#t.'

Rant out and head lowered in disgust.

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09-07-2018 03:03 AM  69 days agoPost 2
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There were two kind of protestors in the hearing...the confused leftists jacked up by the rhetoric of Democrat politicians and paid protestors.

Now that the Russian collusion has fizzled, the left is more desperate and will stop at nothing.

Mark my words...if it appears as if Trump will win 2020, they will resort to attacking him.

90% of life is "showing up"

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09-07-2018 03:41 AM  69 days agoPost 3
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I completely agree with sjgusmc21. While some are still looking at this left vs. right nonsense. Some have a higher level view of how damaging this is to our country and our democracy.

To paraphrase Trey Gowdy.. "We live in a political culture that 99 is a failing grade. The moment you take 1 position that doesn't fit the model, you become the enemy" Hence, the rise of identify politics where the goal is for my team to win --- no matter what.

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09-07-2018 03:57 AM  69 days agoPost 4
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While some are still looking at this left vs. right nonsense.
This not the right disrupting the hearings...it is the left using paid protestors.

90% of life is "showing up"

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09-07-2018 04:29 AM  69 days agoPost 5
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tekparasite
While some are still looking at this left vs. right nonsense.
This not the right disrupting the hearings...it is the left using paid protestors.
Thank you for validating my point.

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09-07-2018 04:45 AM  69 days agoPost 6
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Thank you for validating my point.
You have no point, your posts are pointless.

90% of life is "showing up"

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09-07-2018 05:05 AM  69 days agoPost 7
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tekparasite
Thank you for validating my point.
You have no point, your posts are pointless.
My point was that I agreed with the Original Post. Don't get excited when someone has a different point of view. Only sheep are comfortable going with the flow.

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09-07-2018 05:52 AM  69 days agoPost 8
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My point was that I agreed with the Original Post. Don't get excited when someone has a different point of view. Only sheep are comfortable going with the flow.
You didn't say you agreed with the OP. Your comment was referring to my comment.

Again tying to change your direction.

90% of life is "showing up"

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09-07-2018 12:29 PM  69 days agoPost 9
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Much of my adult life has been defined by 16 years of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. The Bush family was no friend of mine either adding another 12 years to the list. I'm coming off a 28 year loosing streak.

We finally get a President that I believe is working for the people that pay for government and all hell is breaking loose. I left the US Navy after 12 years because I, in large part, would no longer be a pawn for Bill Clinton. We finally have someone that is interested in doing the right thing and doesn't kowtow to the public press.

I was traveling the night Barack won his second election. I was having a beer in the hotel bar in San Francisco. The TV announced Obama had won a second term and the butchy tattooed lesbians in the place exploded rejoicing shouting "we won - we did it". And they had. We ran an election. We voted. I lost and they won. That is democracy. If you don't like today's politics, I can empathize. Believe me, I know what it is like to loose an election.

What has surprised me is the left's reaction to loosing. Now we have a drift away from policies they support and we have rioting. I didn't know I was supposed to riot when I lost an election. I didn't know I was supposed to disrupt congress when a liberal tries to appoint a Supreme Court Justice as Barack did. Obama made over 300 judicial appointments. I just thought he was a fairly elected official of the people of the United States. I didn't like his actions but I lost the election.

"Well, Nothing bad can happen now."

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09-07-2018 01:37 PM  69 days agoPost 10
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^^Well said.

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09-07-2018 01:53 PM  69 days agoPost 11
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You didn't say you agreed with the OP. Your comment was referring to my comment.
Read my first comment in this thread. Regarding my comment about you seeing everything in black in white, I stand by that comment.

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09-07-2018 02:11 PM  69 days agoPost 12
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All of this centers around Trump... He is not one of the locals as far as DC is concerned. he is undoubtedly an outsider that is disrupting their happy little party. I really dont think the republican party is behind him much either. BOTH side has for over 100 years been stealing tax payer money to line their pockets and reward their puppets both over seas and military buddies with ridiculous military projects most of which go no where. Most republicans simply bite their tongue and mind their comments in public, but are likely helping the opposition with leaks, rumors and hearsay.... so both sides want him out.... not because hes doing a bad job (on the contrary really).... but because he threatens their legacies which center around their self enrichment.

He may very well win the 2020... unless they find a way to threaten his family or outright rig the election (and the will)... either way Trumps end will come.... what follows will be president (democrat) whos primary goal will be to restore the hidden government corruption under the guise of "repairing" Trumps damage.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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09-07-2018 02:38 PM  69 days agoPost 13
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....I'm coming off a 28 year loosing streak.
We finally get a President that I believe is working for the people that pay for government and all hell is breaking loose.
At least you have a candidate you believed in that turned president. Imagine supporting a candidate that all networks are working on blocking him. Even the party he is running in is blocking his slate of delegates. If such candidate runs third party, no chance in hell getting to the national debates as everything is controlled by both Reps and Dems working together.
This was Ron Paul's efforts in getting to a nomination. I can draw some parallels between Paul and Trump's rallies, but they were so different. Ron Paul had a well managed ego and his rallies were all about substance.

Which brings me to next point about Trump getting acceptance to a wider audience (my opinion of course).
Tweets. Every time he trades punches with a single citizen, people like me think he still is not acting as a president. If he were to ignore those people, Trump wins by default because the others don't have the national stage. HE does.

Ego. As much as Republicans criticize Dems for having safe spaces, rallies are Trump's safe spaces. He becomes a different person. There are reports that he doesn't consult with his people as if saying.. "I don't need them; I can do this alone"

Anyway, I can go on and on on the minor tweaks he can do to make people like me pay attention.
wjvail
The TV announced Obama had won a second term and the butchy tattooed lesbians in the place exploded rejoicing shouting "we won - we did it". And they had. We ran an election. We voted. I lost and they won. That is democracy. If you don't like today's politics, fine. Believe me, I know what it is like to loose an election.
That's fine and all, but did you sit back and embraced Obama and his policies after that because he was still president? Probably not. You probably still criticize him when you saw it fit. I'm sure you felt disagreeing with Obama on certain issues was the right thing to do for this country.
wjvail
What has surprised me is the left's reaction to loosing. Now we have a drift away from policies they support and we have rioting. I didn't know I was supposed to riot when I lost an election. I didn't know I was supposed to disrupt congress when a liberal tries to appoint a Supreme Court Justice as Barack did. Obama made over 300 judicial appointments. I just thought he was a fairly elected official of the people of the United States. I didn't like his actions but I lost the election.
There were plenty of protest...
LINK But Obama didn't tweet about them or held a rally where he mentioned them. In other words, he didn't give those protest a national stage. You know who else protested against Obama? ANTIFA. But, some Republicans are quick to bundle everybody into an Anti-Trump group.

I think making that a criteria is a mistake as now you have a group that must be either 100% pro Trump or you are Anti-T. Then, you are looking at a huge group given the criteria. My suggestion is to talk about agreements and then venture into differences BUT always acknowledging were we have common ground.

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09-07-2018 03:13 PM  69 days agoPost 14
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All of this centers around Trump... He is not one of the locals as far as DC is concerned. he is undoubtedly an outsider that is disrupting their happy little party. I really dont think the republican party is behind him much either. BOTH side has for over 100 years been stealing tax payer money to line their pockets and reward their puppets both over seas and military buddies with ridiculous military projects most of which go no where. Most republicans simply bite their tongue and mind their comments in public, but are likely helping the opposition with leaks, rumors and hearsay.... so both sides want him out.... not because hes doing a bad job (on the contrary really).... but because he threatens their legacies which center around their self enrichment.
Certainly correct.

In 1992 Ross Perot, a wealthy, popular businessman and Washington outsider, announced he would run for President against Bill Clinton and George HW Bush. The Republican party failed to support Ross and he ran as in independent. In a 3-way race, historically Republican voters split their votes between Ross and Bush. Bush lost to Clinton after serving only one term.

In 2016 Donald entered the Presidential race on the Republican ticket. He imminently gained a measurable percentage in the polls. The Republican party tried to distance itself from him and said they will not support him. To that Donald responded he would not drop out of the race and instead run as an independent. Like Perot before him, Donald had enough personal wealth and public support to continue in the race, hurt the Republican party and effectively give the Presidency to Hillary. Faced with either begrudgingly supporting Trump or outright handing the election to the Democrats, the Republican party chose the former. In effect Donald threatened the Republican party - either support me or loose.

The Republican party decided "better the enemy we know" and choose to support Donald. Enemy for sure, but at least it's not a Democrat.

As it stands today we have a President that has been elected without the support of either party. Today, the American people have elected a President that is obviously hated by Democrats and strong-armed the "appearance of support" from his "own" party. Clearly shark infested waters for the POTUS.

What is keeping Donald's Presidency effective, even though he is not supported by Democrats or Republicans, is that he is popular with MANY Americans. Even though many Republicans would like to distance themselves from President Trump, doing so would be politically unwise.

"Well, Nothing bad can happen now."

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09-07-2018 04:13 PM  69 days agoPost 15
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To RM3 and wjvail. Valid points on both parties acting against Trump. I mean, Paul Ryan usually plays dumb and keeps his distance and Mitch Mcconnell seems nervous most of the time.

Trump can do very little in those spots as he has no jurisdiction due to separation of powers. BUT, would you agree that he really has control of the supreme court with all of his appointees? At a bigger impact, he has FULL control of every spot in his cabinet. Wasn't he the one that claimed he knew the best people (only the best). What did he do to drain the swamp? Brought in Gary Cohn, Steven Mnuchin, Steve Bannon, Anthony Scaramucci, and Dina Powell all of which were at one point at Goldman Sachs.

If you want to disrupt a cartel system, the last thing you do is hire ex-cartel members to run the new system.

Sorry, but details matter.

The US has been running a trade deficit which is a big problem. One of the ways to tackle that deficit is tariffs and it's a sticky situation, but Trump pushed through. That takes a lot of guts. He did it. GREAT!!

But is this helping the bulk of companies? Well, here's the sad truth: Shell and Chevron got their tariff waivers and everybody else (medium to small companies) got the shaft on tariffs. I have a problem with that. If I were Trump, I would say EVERYBODY has to tighten their belt. Good intentions, but you still see big companies getting away with it and taking exemptions via lobbying.

Does this look like a level field to you? Again, details matter.

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09-07-2018 04:21 PM  69 days agoPost 16
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As it stands today we have a President that has been elected without the support of either party. Today, the American people have elected a President that is obviously hated by Democrats and strong-armed the "appearance of support" from his "own" party. Clearly shark infested waters for the POTUS.
agree 100%...

seems the only difference between Rep and Dem is gun and abortion (though this varies)... everything else they align yet dont admit to it. They may appear to hate each other... but on the weekends they play golf together and discuss the next big money making opportunity.

Its obvious the government does not take kindly to the people telling them who their leader should be.... how do you rig the next election? simple, setup a listing of candidates they agree with and none other. Your right. the only reason Trump beat the odds was cause he funded a significant part of his candidacy...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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