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09-07-2018 05:00 AM  66 days agoPost 41
tekparasite

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When I say..
tekparasite
It's sad that you see everything as black and white.
your reply is
dilberteinstein
You don't know what I see...all you know is what I post....
Then you proceed to describe as everything as black and white. (R or D).

Once again, thank you for proving my case.

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09-07-2018 05:49 AM  66 days agoPost 42
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tekparasite
Then you proceed to describe as everything as black and white. (R or D).

Once again, thank you for proving my case.
Nope, a person only has one choice in the voting booth (D) or (R). The other choices are throw away votes.

And again you change the subject just as Fairview said you did on an other forum.

90% of life is "showing up"

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09-07-2018 03:38 PM  66 days agoPost 43
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tekparasite
Then you proceed to describe as everything as black and white. (R or D).

Once again, thank you for proving my case.
Nope, a person only has one choice in the voting booth (D) or (R). The other choices are throw away votes.

And again you change the subject just as Fairview said you did on an other forum.
Let's be honest here, what subjects have I avoided or changed? Fairview simply gave you something to latch on to and used it as a cop out. It goes to show how you really don't want to discuss issues and simply want to live in an echo chamber. You felt pretty comfortable here, but once I started questioning for substance, it made you feel uncomfortable. I'm just pointing the obvious.

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09-07-2018 03:48 PM  66 days agoPost 44
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tekparasite
it made you feel uncomfortable. I'm just pointing the obvious.
LOL. Obvious to who? you? You really are a parasite.

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09-07-2018 04:14 PM  66 days agoPost 45
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tekparasite
it made you feel uncomfortable. I'm just pointing the obvious.
LOL. Obvious to who? you? You really are a parasite.
watch out.. we like nerds.

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09-07-2018 09:59 PM  66 days agoPost 46
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09-11-2018 07:48 PM  62 days agoPost 47
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dilberteinstein
Time for you to fess up about being a Democrat. Your posts are telling on you. Are you a first generation from south of the border? Second maybe?? What?
It's hard to stop knee jerk reactions isn't it? Making assertions without knowing all the facts. I don't blame you. I know it's hard. But you need to stop and think about things a layer deeper. Would you believe me if I told you I was a Republican delegate for the state of Texas? I sided mostly with the republican platform based on libertarian ideals. Small Gov't, Constitutionalist, Non-Interventionist, Fiscal Conservative, Maximizing Civil liberties, etc.
I also have respect for the office of the president, BUT that comes at a price. The price for that respect is that the person holding that office MUST meet certain threshold of civility, diplomacy, etc.

When I criticize Trump for not meeting that threshold, it doesn't make me a democrat, it makes me a good citizen for wanting him to be a better president. The fact that you can't see that, it's not my fault.
Please note the fallacy of your statement. You do not have to respect the person but you must respect the title for he is your President! And no your personal requirements do not count. Please also note that Donald Trump was one of the most liked and admired Businessmen in the country prior to him running as a Republican. Once he did that the media went after him and in case no one has informed you the media is one of the most powerful forces known with the ability to manipulate minds on a mass scale. They have been extremely successful however their Story is falling apart. Hmmm no recession and the stock market did not plunge nor was our economy destroyed. Russian collusion ...hoax only thing that has actually been proven so far is the corruption of the DNC DOJ FBI and Obama administration. Even with this false narrative portrayed by the media and DC political elite along with FB, YouTube, Google, Twitter yet his successes keep adding up. I along with many other Americans feel if this President was not being vilified to the extent that he has by the previously mentioned individuals companies and political ruling class our country would be even more prosperous. Donald Trump is a leader and as I was always taught Lead, follow or get the fuhk out of the way. Unfortunately our political class does not give a rat's a$$ for this country or its constituents, they only care about self interest hence why they spend 80% of their time seeking re-election instead of problem solving. I can assure you if I had been skating on the public dime for the last 50 years Donald Trump would scare the sh!t out of me as well. The gig is up they are all being exposed their self righteous behavior while stealing millions from the people of this country Left, right, independent they are all guilty of fleecing the tax payers and now they all know they can not stand up to the scrutiny of the auditor (Donald Trump) and the only way to survive is to destroy him. Well they have tried and failed and in doing so they have enlightened the rest of the people in this country who are productive and are tired of giving up the spoils of their work to others who refuse to do the same. PS

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09-12-2018 03:31 AM  61 days agoPost 48
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Please note the fallacy of your statement. You do not have to respect the person but you must respect the title for he is your President!
It's not a fallacy as you have explained a different interpretation of what I said. Under no circumstance I was referring to not acknowledging that Trump IS the president (as if he didn't have jurisdiction over me as a citizen). He is the current president of this nation and for every citizen of this nation like me, he is our president. Period.
That's not what I was commenting on.

Re-read my comment, I was only referring to respecting that spot. By default, I tend to give a level of respect to that spot because every modern president has met that threshold. And NO, I don't have to consult with anyone but me as to what I set as threshold to give out that respect.
Jgatorman
Please also note that Donald Trump was one of the most liked and admired Businessmen in the country prior to him running as a Republican.
I honestly only knew of him because of his reality TV show.
Jgatorman
Once he did that the media went after him and in case no one has informed you the media is one of the most powerful forces known with the ability to manipulate minds on a mass scale. They have been extremely successful however their Story is falling apart. Hmmm no recession and the stock market did not plunge nor was our economy destroyed.
I really don't think you want to have a macro-economics discussion in a sentence like that. There are WAY too many variables we have to check off to call it economic growth. Remember, we are currently in a period of spending based on a massive deficit. That's like saying I have prosperity because I just got a loan. Again, I remind you that Conservatives have thrown fiscal conservatism under the bus and are only looking at the dollars from the loan and not what is going to take to repay it.
Jgatorman
Russian collusion ...hoax only thing that has actually been proven so far is the corruption of the DNC DOJ FBI and Obama administration. Even with this false narrative portrayed by the media and DC political elite along with FB, YouTube, Google, Twitter yet his successes keep adding up.
Okay, you were doing great so far, but now you are just regurgitating typical FoxNews rhetoric . FACT: Russians were trying to meddle in our elections. This is not a partisan issue. This is a fact.
Jgatorman
I along with many other Americans feel if this President was not being vilified to the extent that he has by the previously mentioned individuals companies and political ruling class our country would be even more prosperous. Donald Trump is a leader and as I was always taught Lead, follow or get the fuhk out of the way. Unfortunately our political class does not give a rat's a$$ for this country or its constituents, they only care about self interest hence why they spend 80% of their time seeking re-election instead of problem solving. I can assure you if I had been skating on the public dime for the last 50 years Donald Trump would scare the sh!t out of me as well. The gig is up they are all being exposed their self righteous behavior while stealing millions from the people of this country Left, right, independent they are all guilty of fleecing the tax payers and now they all know they can not stand up to the scrutiny of the auditor (Donald Trump) and the only way to survive is to destroy him. Well they have tried and failed and in doing so they have enlightened the rest of the people in this country who are productive and are tired of giving up the spoils of their work to others who refuse to do the same. PS
That's a nice hype of Trump you presented there. Unfortunately, his history doesn't match the accolades you are giving him. Show me evidence of Trump's past philanthropy efforts if he is so for the common man? Do some research on how many contractors he shafted. It's public information and this is all pre-presidential run info. This wasn't Rep. vs. Dem. This was Trump vs. US Contractors with US workers. In politics, he even said it himself "I played the game too". Donations for permits, etc. This is not about saving the people. It sounds nice if you are a blind supporter, but you have to face the facts. His history doesn't match somebody with principle.

According to Trump, he doesn't pay taxes and that makes him smart. Which means, if you ARE paying taxes, what does that make you? His words, not mine. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I think you really need to come down from cloud nine.

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09-13-2018 07:46 PM  60 days agoPost 49
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tekparasite
Jgatorman
Please note the fallacy of your statement. You do not have to respect the person but you must respect the title for he is your President!
It's not a fallacy as you have explained a different interpretation of what I said. Under no circumstance I was referring to not acknowledging that Trump IS the president (as if he didn't have jurisdiction over me as a citizen). He is the current president of this nation and for every citizen of this nation like me, he is our president. Period.
That's not what I was commenting on.

Re-read my comment, I was only referring to respecting that spot. By default, I tend to give a level of respect to that spot because every modern president has met that threshold. And NO, I don't have to consult with anyone but me as to what I set as threshold to give out that respect.

Unfortunately that is your personal opinion and I am not interested in such. He is the President as determined by the voters period. Just because you fall for the rhetoric does not mean that I nor anyone else has to.
Jgatorman
Please also note that Donald Trump was one of the most liked and admired Businessmen in the country prior to him running as a Republican.
I honestly only knew of him because of his reality TV show.
Jgatorman
Once he did that the media went after him and in case no one has informed you the media is one of the most powerful forces known with the ability to manipulate minds on a mass scale. They have been extremely successful however their Story is falling apart. Hmmm no recession and the stock market did not plunge nor was our economy destroyed.
I really don't think you want to have a macro-economics discussion in a sentence like that. There are WAY too many variables we have to check off to call it economic growth. Remember, we are currently in a period of spending based on a massive deficit. That's like saying I have prosperity because I just got a loan. Again, I remind you that Conservatives have thrown fiscal conservatism under the bus and are only looking at the dollars from the loan and not what is going to take to repay it.

A macro economics discussion over the influence of the media now that is funny. I find it even more humorous that the previous President added more to the deficit than every other president before him "combined" yet all he talks about is how he created this boom. Please remind me of all of the shovel ready jobs he promised oh I forgot to mention he did have those, he paid someone to dig a hole and another to fill said hole, not good enough. What about cash for clunkers, Solara, Obamacare and Global warming. Why do you not utilize your macro economics to discuss these items as well as many others for I am sure any country would be more prosperous by allowing more people on welfare, food stamps, subsidies, medical care and give a away programs. Please note how fast these numbers have dropped once someone actually took charge.
Jgatorman
Russian collusion ...hoax only thing that has actually been proven so far is the corruption of the DNC DOJ FBI and Obama administration. Even with this false narrative portrayed by the media and DC political elite along with FB, YouTube, Google, Twitter yet his successes keep adding up.
Okay, you were doing great so far, but now you are just regurgitating typical FoxNews rhetoric . FACT: Russians were trying to meddle in our elections. This is not a partisan issue. This is a fact.

Please note there is not a single shred of evidence to support your argument of Trumps involvement with Russian collusion. Please back up your statement with facts and not fiction. I will be waiting.
Jgatorman
I along with many other Americans feel if this President was not being vilified to the extent that he has by the previously mentioned individuals companies and political ruling class our country would be even more prosperous. Donald Trump is a leader and as I was always taught Lead, follow or get the fuhk out of the way. Unfortunately our political class does not give a rat's a$$ for this country or its constituents, they only care about self interest hence why they spend 80% of their time seeking re-election instead of problem solving. I can assure you if I had been skating on the public dime for the last 50 years Donald Trump would scare the sh!t out of me as well. The gig is up they are all being exposed their self righteous behavior while stealing millions from the people of this country Left, right, independent they are all guilty of fleecing the tax payers and now they all know they can not stand up to the scrutiny of the auditor (Donald Trump) and the only way to survive is to destroy him. Well they have tried and failed and in doing so they have enlightened the rest of the people in this country who are productive and are tired of giving up the spoils of their work to others who refuse to do the same. PS
That's a nice hype of Trump you presented there. Unfortunately, his history doesn't match the accolades you are giving him. Show me evidence of Trump's past philanthropy efforts if he is so for the common man? Do some research on how many contractors he shafted. It's public information and this is all pre-presidential run info. This wasn't Rep. vs. Dem. This was Trump vs. US Contractors with US workers. In politics, he even said it himself "I played the game too". Donations for permits, etc. This is not about saving the people. It sounds nice if you are a blind supporter, but you have to face the facts. His history doesn't match somebody with principle.

Nice deflection I did not mention Philanthropy but I am quite sure plenty can be found but you have to do your own research. Bringing up his past is opening yourself up to many criticisms, please enlighten me of the past of other Presidents such as the previous President who had a large portion of his previous life sealed by the courts. Correct me if I am wrong but I do believe that is a first. However I digress for we were discussing popularity and there is no denying how popular he was Just ask Google lol.

According to Trump, he doesn't pay taxes and that makes him smart. Which means, if you ARE paying taxes, what does that make you? His words, not mine. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I think you really need to come down from cloud nine.
Wow take things out of context much... speaking of parroting lol He pays the least amount of taxes allowed by law just like any other intelligent citizen if you do not like the laws there are better ways of changing them other than whining. I do not have a bubble I am enjoying my so called white privilege uh I mean work ethic lol along with my additional pay from the tax cuts I have also increased my income significantly due to the country is actually prosperous again and I can assure you my field of expertise allows for me to witness this personally for I am in transportation and it is really amazing how prior to this administration the industry was declining significantly and now we do not have enough drivers nor trucks to meet the needs of our customers. PS we only have 25,000 trucks to keep rolling and the funny thing is not enough. So from your real world experience please explain to me how the last President stated manufacturing jobs were gone never to return and how The US could never again sustain 3% growth yet we have surpassed that significantly. So my advise to you is find a mirror and look into it the reflection you see is the problem not "our President".

I apologize for the improper formating for quotes.

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09-13-2018 11:39 PM  60 days agoPost 50
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Yes. It was a bit difficult following the quotes:
Jgatorman
A macro economics discussion over the influence of the media now that is funny.
It sure is because the media will spin economics to their liking. That's why I stated that we don't want to attach macro-economics statements (victory or defeat) based on media reports/speculations.
Jgatorman
I find it even more humorous that the previous President added more to the deficit than every other president before him "combined" yet all he talks about is how he created this boom.
By the way, I purposely did not address the rest of your comments because they are all over the place. Let's just keep it 'simple' = deficits.

Correct. Obama's cumulative deficits throughout his two-term was more than his predecessors. The question becomes: Is this the number we want to point to as a gauge for economic success or failure? My thinking is not entirely, but it should be taken into account with a lot of other factors.

So, let's look at Obama's deficits while in office:
YEAR Deficit (in trillions)
2009 1.412
2010 1.294
2011 1.299
2012 1.086
2013 0.679
2014 0.484
2015 0.438
2016 0.584
As commonly known, you shouldn't count the first year as this budget is set under the previous president. That first year's deficit was $1.4T. Wow! Really high, but did Obama correct the situation? NOPE. His next 3 years his deficits were greater than 1 Trillion dollars. The next remaining years were somewhat under control (relatively speaking) with 0.5 trillion. And he used to parade that. How did Obama spin these Trillion dollar deficit?
Well, there was a lot of - Don't look at the short term, look at the long term investment, etc.

But the numbers are there. High deficits at first, then got better over time. Still high though.

Now look at Trump's actuals and projected (source here pg 117)
YEAR Deficit (in trillions)
2017 0.665
2018 0.873
2019 0.984
2020 0.987
Deficit projections under Trump are upwards in trend. I go back to my question: Is this the number we want to point to as a gauge for economic success or failure? Is this a bad economic move or is Trump going to use the same line that Obama did (this is investment for the future and don't look at short term deficits)?

I rather this conversation be less partisan. I would like to hear your opinion but be consistent on the interpretation of the numbers regardless of who is in office.
Jgatorman
Please note there is not a single shred of evidence to support your argument of Trumps involvement with Russian collusion. Please back up your statement with facts and not fiction. I will be waiting.
You are putting words in my statements. Here's what I said: "FACT: Russians were trying to meddle in our elections."

That's totally different than saying Trump was involved in any way (collusion). Sorry to point this out, but read my statements carefully.
You are claiming that collusion is my argument when it isn't. I'm trying to steer you away from NOT even recognizing that such meddling ever happened.
Jgatorman
Nice deflection I did not mention Philanthropy but I am quite sure plenty can be found but you have to do your own research. Bringing up his past is opening yourself up to many criticisms, please enlighten me of the past of other Presidents such as the previous President who had a large portion of his previous life sealed by the courts. Correct me if I am wrong but I do believe that is a first. However I digress for we were discussing popularity and there is no denying how popular he was Just ask Google lol.
You are right, you did not mention philanthropy. I brought it up as a response to your statement implying that politicians are only about self interest and Trump is different. But you know what, after some thought, I don't think it's fair to pin Trump by his past (good or bad). So, I'll try to stick to his performance as a candidate & president. I say candidate, because I am holding him accountable for promises made.
Jgatorman
Wow take things out of context much... speaking of parroting lol He pays the least amount of taxes allowed by law just like any other intelligent citizen if you do not like the laws there are better ways of changing them other than whining. I do not have a bubble I am enjoying my so called white privilege uh I mean work ethic lol along with my additional pay from the tax cuts I have also increased my income significantly due to the country is actually prosperous again and I can assure you my field of expertise allows for me to witness this personally for I am in transportation and it is really amazing how prior to this administration the industry was declining significantly and now we do not have enough drivers nor trucks to meet the needs of our customers. PS we only have 25,000 trucks to keep rolling and the funny thing is not enough. So from your real world experience please explain to me how the last President stated manufacturing jobs were gone never to return and how The US could never again sustain 3% growth yet we have surpassed that significantly. So my advise to you is find a mirror and look into it the reflection you see is the problem not "our President".
Regarding taxes. Obviously, everybody wants to pay the minimum allowed.
But you hit it right in the nail when you said.. 'if you do not like the laws there are better ways of changing them'.
Yes. I don't like the existing tax laws and the best way to make a change is to acknowledge that there is a problem. Imagine 85% of your paid SS Benefit being taxable as stated by gmcullan. That's messed up.

Now, I'm glad to hear that this administration has brought prosperity to your industry. But remember when I said "macro" economics? Yes. Your industry doesn't represent the full term 'macro'. Ask people in the housing market if times were good under the house market bubble. Was that bubble good for the economy?

Again, the measure of success in a certain industry could potentially be at the expense of an increase in deficit. So, while people in that industry could perceive that as a Plus, the USA in general may be paying the bill.

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09-14-2018 04:25 AM  59 days agoPost 51
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Parasite...go get laid or something. Holy crap....

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09-14-2018 01:32 PM  59 days agoPost 52
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Parasite...go get laid or something. Holy crap....
Thanks for the tip. How inconsiderate of me to bring facts and figures to the conversation. Some people call it "bringing on the heat". You know what melts in heat...right?

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09-14-2018 04:06 PM  59 days agoPost 53
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(Jgatorman) Ok lets play Tek, I noticed you decided not to mention any of Obama's give away programs I mentioned i.e shovel ready jobs, cash for clunkers, Obama phone ect ect. How about the 1.7 billion provide to Iran or the 400 million we actual caught him transferring in cash in the middle of the night. I can go on and on. We also may discuss scandals such as the gun running operation to the Mexican cartels or Benghazi another scandal or we could discuss how the US has interfered countless elections of other countries remember Israel and Obama, that is a lovely double standard you and many other Democrats seem to apply. I also find it quite humerus that you are so concerned about the Russian meddling in our elections (How much did they invest again in the campaign 18 million lol we have spent much more doing it to others). You do not mention the tech oligarchs such as Google FB Twitter ect ect who all have done more spent more and deceived more to attempt to influence an election. I assume you are part of said community due to your screen name. I also notice you have not mentioned how corrupt the previous president was and how the Trump collusion narrative has fallen apart and that it was the previous administration including the DOJ FBI who were actually colluding with foreign agents. I also do not remember Trump giving away our uranium to Russia or getting caught on live audio telling President Dmitri Medvedev he would have more flexibility after the election.
Ok, it does not take expertise in macro economics to know one President tried to destroy American Exceptionalism and the other is reviving it.
tekparasite
Yes. It was a bit difficult following the quotes:
Jgatorman
A macro economics discussion over the influence of the media now that is funny.
It sure is because the media will spin economics to their liking. That's why I stated that we don't want to attach macro-economics statements (victory or defeat) based on media reports/speculations.
Jgatorman
I find it even more humorous that the previous President added more to the deficit than every other president before him "combined" yet all he talks about is how he created this boom.
By the way, I purposely did not address the rest of your comments because they are all over the place. Let's just keep it 'simple' = deficits.

Correct. Obama's cumulative deficits throughout his two-term was more than his predecessors. The question becomes: Is this the number we want to point to as a gauge for economic success or failure? My thinking is not entirely, but it should be taken into account with a lot of other factors.

So, let's look at Obama's deficits while in office:
YEAR Deficit (in trillions)
2009 1.412
2010 1.294
2011 1.299
2012 1.086
2013 0.679
2014 0.484
2015 0.438
2016 0.584
As commonly known, you shouldn't count the first year as this budget is set under the previous president. That first year's deficit was $1.4T. Wow! Really high, but did Obama correct the situation? NOPE. His next 3 years his deficits were greater than 1 Trillion dollars. The next remaining years were somewhat under control (relatively speaking) with 0.5 trillion. And he used to parade that. How did Obama spin these Trillion dollar deficit?
Well, there was a lot of - Don't look at the short term, look at the long term investment, etc.

But the numbers are there. High deficits at first, then got better over time. Still high though.

Now look at Trump's actuals and projected (source here pg 117)
YEAR Deficit (in trillions)
2017 0.665
2018 0.873
2019 0.984
2020 0.987
Deficit projections under Trump are upwards in trend. I go back to my question: Is this the number we want to point to as a gauge for economic success or failure? Is this a bad economic move or is Trump going to use the same line that Obama did (this is investment for the future and don't look at short term deficits)?

I rather this conversation be less partisan. I would like to hear your opinion but be consistent on the interpretation of the numbers regardless of who is in office.

(Jgatorman) Tek, please advise what was done with all of that money for our country was in the ****ter and flushing the middle class along the way, you know the ones that actual keep this country going.
I do recall it was the most prosperous of times for the non productive and the gimme free stuff crowd. You know the entitled ones. I am no economics major but then again I do not have to be for it is quite simple to see Obama spent a lot for little return and Trump has spent less while providing measurable results. So as far as deficits go I am sure the results dictate the viability of expenditures. Please correct me if I am wrong but is not that how economics works. You spend money or go into debt to purchase a product or service that will provide greater value than the expenditure if you succeed the economics is good if you fail it is bad. I learned a long time ago if you want something go earn it, hence the reason people work, we want basic necessities and after that we want to make our lives and our families lives comfortable. The difference from then until now is people who have never worked a day in their lives have the same stuff as people who do. This takes away incentive from these people for why work if I can have the same amenities as those that do. So back to economics the problem with paying people not to work or produce creates a double payment forced upon the rest of us for their lack of productivity. Economically speaking how can one afford to pay people not to work while still having to pay for said work to be done that, yet that is what every tax payer is doing. Please note the obvious cost increase when this occurs. Also please note how much of the last administrations deficits went to these programs. In case you have not noticed these expenditures are down under this administration.
Jgatorman
Please note there is not a single shred of evidence to support your argument of Trumps involvement with Russian collusion. Please back up your statement with facts and not fiction. I will be waiting.
You are putting words in my statements. Here's what I said: "FACT: Russians were trying to meddle in our elections."

That's totally different than saying Trump was involved in any way (collusion). Sorry to point this out, but read my statements carefully.
You are claiming that collusion is my argument when it isn't. I'm trying to steer you away from NOT even recognizing that such meddling ever happened.

(Jgatorman) Tek, I never said such. Russia meddled China meddled who did not meddle? They all meddle but what did it accomplish, nothing just like Obama in Isreal.
Jgatorman
Nice deflection I did not mention Philanthropy but I am quite sure plenty can be found but you have to do your own research. Bringing up his past is opening yourself up to many criticisms, please enlighten me of the past of other Presidents such as the previous President who had a large portion of his previous life sealed by the courts. Correct me if I am wrong but I do believe that is a first. However I digress for we were discussing popularity and there is no denying how popular he was Just ask Google lol.
You are right, you did not mention philanthropy. I brought it up as a response to your statement implying that politicians are only about self interest and Trump is different. But you know what, after some thought, I don't think it's fair to pin Trump by his past (good or bad). So, I'll try to stick to his performance as a candidate & president. I say candidate, because I am holding him accountable for promises made.

(Jgatorman) Tek , thanks for the credit, PS like I said he would scare the hell out of me if I was part of the swamp!
Jgatorman
Wow take things out of context much... speaking of parroting lol He pays the least amount of taxes allowed by law just like any other intelligent citizen if you do not like the laws there are better ways of changing them other than whining. I do not have a bubble I am enjoying my so called white privilege uh I mean work ethic lol along with my additional pay from the tax cuts I have also increased my income significantly due to the country is actually prosperous again and I can assure you my field of expertise allows for me to witness this personally for I am in transportation and it is really amazing how prior to this administration the industry was declining significantly and now we do not have enough drivers nor trucks to meet the needs of our customers. PS we only have 25,000 trucks to keep rolling and the funny thing is not enough. So from your real world experience please explain to me how the last President stated manufacturing jobs were gone never to return and how The US could never again sustain 3% growth yet we have surpassed that significantly. So my advise to you is find a mirror and look into it the reflection you see is the problem not "our President".
Regarding taxes. Obviously, everybody wants to pay the minimum allowed.
But you hit it right in the nail when you said.. 'if you do not like the laws there are better ways of changing them'.
Yes. I don't like the existing tax laws and the best way to make a change is to acknowledge that there is a problem. Imagine 85% of your paid SS Benefit being taxable as stated by gmcullan. That's messed up.

(Jgatorman)Tek, I do not have to for it has not occurred.

Now, I'm glad to hear that this administration has brought prosperity to your industry. But remember when I said "macro" economics? Yes. Your industry doesn't represent the full term 'macro'. Ask people in the housing market if times were good under the house market bubble. Was that bubble good for the economy?
( Jgatorman ) Tek really and you claim to be informed. Please tell me a greater economic indicator than my industry. It measures all goods provided throughout this country. The reason there are more goods being transported is because more are being purchased and we all know it takes money to purchase goods. Consumer and business optimism is up and you are stating you know better. I feel it might be a long fall from that high perch of yours.

\ Again, the measure of success in a certain industry could potentially be at the expense of an increase in deficit. So, while people in that industry could perceive that as a Plus, the USA in general may be paying the bill.
(Jgatorman) Tek, It is not a certain industry, you are referring to a certain industry so stop projecting. My industry moves goods from all other industries combined. So please note you could potentially be absolutely incorrect in each and every statement you have made lol potentially.... PS life is so much better if you deal in Probability vs possibility and the indicators all dictate that this will be one of the most successful presidencies in my lifetime! Maybe I should get into macro economics for it seems my thoughts are much more cohesive on the subject and I do this without the use of speculation just factual information like historically low unemployment for all including Black and Hispanic. I am still trying to figure out why the purported racist would help these communities so much if he despises them lol. PS How come Obama could not do the same for his own people or how come the last 4 presidents all made promises to Isreal yet Trump was the only one to act on it or how come our negotiations with Korea are better than the last 50 years. I will tell you my friend are you ready.... Actions speak louder than words. Trump is a man of action so like I originally stated lead follow or get the fuhk out of the way! MAGA! PS my apologies for the partisanship however in this case it is simply unavoidable. For you brought up the previous adminstrations #s which to myself and many others was simply a redistribution of wealth as noted by my George Carlin "Stuff" bit.

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(Jgatorman) Ok lets play Tek, I noticed you decided not to mention any of Obama's give away programs I mentioned i.e shovel ready jobs, cash for clunkers, Obama phone ect ect.
Yes. And I told you why I was not addressing those comments (which was to keep things simple and to one point). You want quick feedback on those items? Sure:
  • Shovel Ready - False promise. Either he was too ignorant to know what it takes to create jobs at a mass scale or he did know, but lied. Talk is cheap especially when you are campaigning.
  • Cash For Clunkers - Perhaps a good initiative, but there's an example of policy trying to influence the free market. I don't know if it was successful, or if it was money down the drain. Either way, I prefer that free markets decide that NOT the government.
  • Obama Phone - Money down the drain. A waste. The government doesn't have any business giving out something I currently consider a nice to have. Spend it on education instead.
Does that give you a sense of where I stand? The more I read comments here, the more I feel everybody is pigeonhole under the (R) umbrella and not dare get their feet wet. Notice how I have highlighted when I agree with you and when I disagree. I have voiced my disagreements with Trump, but I have also said where I agree with him. I even acknowledged that when I was criticizing Trump's history (pre-presidential run), it wasn't fair to him.

But when I show simple data regarding your brought up topic (deficits), I don't hear any acknowledgements from your side. How about this. Pretend that the Obama deficits are Trump's and vice-versa. Now tell me what you think about the numbers. I do that mind trick all the time. Someone proposes a policy, I think of Ron Paul (one guy I like) proposing it. Then I think of someone I don't trust (Hillary) proposing it. Then you realize that you should be able to say the same comments (pro/against) regardless of who said it. If you flip-flop on the policy because of the person stating that policy, then there's a problem.

I apologize if I don't address the rest of your comments, but without sanitizing some of the feelings for politicians, all of my comments will be considered trolling from your perspective.

I truly think both of us want the best for this country and its people. If people with same goals can't even get on the same page, imagine people that don't have the same goals and are truly trying to hurt this country. We need to get better at communicating.

But this is us right now.

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