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08-21-2018 06:25 PM  3 months agoPost 1
lfalsetto

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What does everybody see as the fate of helicopters. I see a lot for sale and lowball offers or no action. There are very few vendors and trying to find parts, (Align) is almost impossible.

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08-21-2018 06:54 PM  3 months agoPost 2
Gearhead

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aa haa haa haaa, arr, they will all stop making them, arr, and then Century will make a come back and flood the market and you all will have to flying Century aa haa haa haa

I hope you find that as funny as I did

seriously, you can only guess, and I don't have a clue, and I'm not going to guess

Jim
Buzz Buzz Buzz

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08-21-2018 07:06 PM  3 months agoPost 3
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08-21-2018 07:31 PM  3 months agoPost 4
RM3

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Align and Blade are like cockroaches and taxes... they aint going anywhere

Maybe not any USA made models (other than Bergen?)... but there will always be a RC helicopter model available somewhere... the parts will evolve but thats the case with anything...

FWIW you can still find balsa boat models... and Vacuum tubes for old school amps and Radios...

the market will shrink... but will never really completely go away

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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08-21-2018 09:05 PM  3 months agoPost 5
Heli Fanatix

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RC heli has expanded and been saturated with not so top quality kits / companies.

At some point, what will remain are quality companies.

Time & numbers always tell the true tale. If we spend the time to research and search, we will thrive.

What we get all depends on the extent of our reach!

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08-21-2018 09:35 PM  3 months agoPost 6
RM3

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At some point, what will remain are quality companies.

Time & numbers always tell the true tale
sad but true in many ways... Look at AirStar and TSA... great models, but greatness doesnt equate to market support by the consumer... Bergen is another great company, but abandoned the weekend hobbyist and went to more of a commercial/industrial market where money talks. Others out there that require donor models like Leviathan, HeliBug and Blackout are holding on, but the market is not on their side in all truthfulness despite their quality. the one that will live longest is the one that can maintain quality, better support and undercut the competition.

Problem is People are fickle ... they want now, cheap AND good... but the next shinny thing with the promise to entertain will always pull them in a new direction.

who in their right mind right now would want to invest in RC helicopter manufacturing and support is either dreaming or spending other peoples money.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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08-22-2018 12:17 AM  3 months agoPost 7
Heli Fanatix

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Value and Cost are opposite of each other

Ignorance is the biggest problem. If we take time to educate ourselves and learn, we can decide for ourselves.

However, it’ll be a good thing. We don’t have to choose anymore, the decision will be made for us!

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08-22-2018 02:19 PM  3 months agoPost 8
Richardmid1

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One of the problems is the lack of affordable kits these days. Remember when Align was the cheap option? Hirobo SDX? (ok spares were expensive but the kit wasn't bad), ElyQ? (£150 kit in the UK!, complete rubbish but flew well), Velocity?.

Now it's all high end stuff because us lot always bang on about 'you get what you pay for' all over the forums so the manufacturers just needlessly jack up the quality and more so the price!

Lets have some rubbish kits again that you have to work on and upgrade to get flying how you like! Those were the good old days and that was what was interesting about the hobby for me, tinkering, upgrading, not giving a s*** if it went in! It was fun back then, it's way too serious now.

Bit of a rant there, sorry!

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08-22-2018 03:40 PM  3 months agoPost 9
RM3

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Lets have some rubbish kits again that you have to work on and upgrade to get flying how you like!
dont we already have that to some extent with Blade? yeah the biggest is a 500ish... and its $600. not bad for a kit that includes the motor and ESC. granted its not a pile of crap (they actually do fly good)

but cheap crap kits... not sure I want a newb to have to go through that... often yeah its a nice introduction into the hobby with a low price point... but its akin to getting jumped into a gang...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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08-22-2018 06:33 PM  3 months agoPost 10
Heli Fanatix

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“COST” is always an issue in the absence of “VALUE”

By trying to save money, we may spend more time, effort and our sanity.

When we get an inferior kit without doing our research, we can’t get upset. It’s simply we made an error in judgement and a poor decision. Own up to our decisions .... Gotta “Pay to Play!”

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08-23-2018 10:59 AM  3 months agoPost 11
Richardmid1

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I thought Blade had disappeared?

A newb would have a hard time on an expensive kit also but would give up on the first tip over due to the repair cost! Newbs need cheap kits to learn on!

60% of the time, it works every time!

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08-23-2018 11:02 AM  3 months agoPost 12
Richardmid1

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By trying to save money, we may spend more time, effort and our sanity.
This hobby is not just about the flying for everyone though.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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08-23-2018 05:22 PM  89 days agoPost 13
gearset

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I rember when they were making parts for 10 years after the model was made then had evolved. Miniature Aircraft would do this. That's why you can still get most parts for helies made in the 90's. Great quality and support.

Livin'............

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08-23-2018 06:08 PM  89 days agoPost 14
RM3

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gearset
I rember when they were making parts for 10 years after the model was made then had evolved. Miniature Aircraft would do this.
this is also one of the reasons (not the biggest though) they went under a few years ago...

A company cannot continue to support models made 10+ years ago and on top of that innovate and move forward too. There has to be limits to product support. Otherwise it gets to a point that you have a lot of money sitting in un-purchased parts or must maintain the ability to quickly make these parts on demand which results in the need for quality CNC equipment, raw material and expertise in running the equipment (or outsource the whole mess). the economics simply dont support it considering the majority of the current customer base and their attitudes.

Look what happened to the market with FBL... now Flybars and paddles are all but gone and are referred to as "old school"... never mind that was only 9 years ago that FBL went mainstream with Aligns 3G .

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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08-24-2018 02:53 AM  89 days agoPost 15
Heli Fanatix

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Richard,

Mind you I’m referring to the majority of the hobby.

I understand there are those that don’t fly in this hobby.. that’s a tiny segment

When we don’t have the resources, by all means be resourceful. At this point in my life, I value my time and peace of mind.

“Comman sense isn’t a gift, it’s a curse for those that have to deal with the ones that don’t have it”

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08-24-2018 01:16 PM  89 days agoPost 16
Richardmid1

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MA is alive and well still. I think we have come to a point where there is no need for innovation and to move forward, today's models can already do more than any pilot can throw at them, they can't make them any lighter or stronger without sacrificing one or the other so supporting older models is totally doable and necessary. I think the fact MA has supported their older models is exactly the reason they are still going. There are lots of people who have dug out their old MA's or grabbed a second hand bargain MA due to the cost of buying new. Old MA's are just cool and that's a fact!

60% of the time, it works every time!

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08-24-2018 01:31 PM  89 days agoPost 17
gearset

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So true, that's why I still have a hand full of them and fly often

Livin'............

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08-24-2018 02:44 PM  88 days agoPost 18
RM3

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I think the fact MA has supported their older models is exactly the reason they are still going.
You do realize MA closed their doors and sold the company to an overseas manufacturer right?, If it werent for the outcry of new Whiplash owners they would still be dead.... it may be the same model... but its not the same people behind MA. And how can you say they are "Still" supporting old models... have you even visited CaJun Aircrafts website (MAs distributor in the USA)? the spare parts listing for MA is 95% sold out... you call that support?

go to MAs primary website:

$209.15 total for a 1005 clutch? (not including shipping)... thats some serious support...

I can buy a McLeod StreetPro Clutch for a Corvette for $260

For all their glory and fan following, it wasn't enough to to keep em alive here in the USA. It even broke Rons heart for them to shut down... He was one of their biggest fans and knew each and every model inside and out (probably knew the part numbers by heart too)... once they went down Ron saw the writing on the wall for the hobby and decided it was time to retire...

we will be relegated to obscurity, like building Vacuum tube radios... I sometimes think stamp collecting is overtaking our hobby in popularity.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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08-28-2018 11:00 AM  85 days agoPost 19
Richardmid1

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Well I can still get spares for my Fury Extreme which is 15+ years old, not bad I'd say!

Yes the spares aren't the cheapest but the quality is very good and who is going to need to buy a whole new clutch assembly?!

60% of the time, it works every time!

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08-29-2018 09:54 PM  83 days agoPost 20
RM3

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well with RR closing its doors soon... guess the fate of RC helicopters is pretty much defined. So should I fly till they crash or sell what I got... cause without RR whats the point.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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