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07-04-2018 05:17 PM  16 months ago
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JuanRodriguez

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“Sold as is due to the nature of the hobby “
You see this statement once in a while in the classifieds.....

I know what “sold as is” means but what about the rest ???

So, if I buy something that is supposed to be in “excellent condition “ and it arrives to me with issues then that means I’m sh*t out of luck , right ?

Yes, I’ve been around on this site for a LONG time and I’m aware of researching classified feedback and all , speaking with the seller , etc. , but something about that statement makes me want to pass on the deal .....

Perhaps I don’t understand the full meaning of the statement ????
Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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07-04-2018 05:24 PM  16 months ago
chopper37

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That surly a good question, is the seller saying,
To hard to learn,
Can’t find Parts (availability),
Hobby Shops closing, no support,
Makes you wonder.
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07-04-2018 05:45 PM  16 months ago
GyroFreak

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To me, if it is a personal ad for an item like a model heli, then it is buyer beware.
If I buy from someone who states "As Is" then I know there is no return or recourse for correction.
I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?
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07-04-2018 08:18 PM  16 months ago
Heli_Splatter

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I won't buy something if it is sold "as is" and I have not done a hands-on inspection. It is better to move on. It is very difficult to buy used heli equipment. So many people sell crashed equipment or never knew how to build it right in the first place. If it is sold "as-is" there is no return, no argument.
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07-05-2018 03:01 PM  16 months ago
Pistol Pete

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As Is
Using a famous quote of an RR aficionado...

"A quick google search..."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_is

...On the other hand, the phrase "as is" does not disclaim express warranties, such as those created by the seller's description of an item. In other words, the item may be sold "as is," but if the item does not conform to the seller's description, the buyer has a right to reject it.

Yes, buyer beware but the devil is in the details.
Heli_Splatter If it is sold "as-is" there is no return, no argument.
Good thing Paypal feels differently.
~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~
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07-05-2018 04:08 PM  16 months ago
helitom

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On the other hand..........I've been doing the modeler's wheeling and dealing for a very long time and I can count on one hand the number of times I've been stiffed by another modeler.The older I get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.
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07-05-2018 06:12 PM  16 months ago
InvertedDude

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Juan
We know you come with "Sold as is due to the nature of the hobby"!!!

I will pass up on this deal!
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07-06-2018 02:03 AM  16 months ago
kglassman

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After reading this.....I don't know how to post my 35 years of collecting helicopters, extra parts, electronics, gas and electric motors, some NIB and used stuff, including my transmitters. I'm talking over 25 helicopters, all .60 to .90 size, nothing smaller and over 60 sets of fiberglass and carbon fiber blades. I was going to post my stock of 14 Kontronik ESC's, again some new and used Till I read this today, I don't use any junk or keep it! To fly my helicopters I only use good used or new replacement stuff, but getting up in years I think it is time to pass it on to younger pilots. It is just not the latest and greatest stuff, what do you guys think I should do
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07-06-2018 09:26 AM  16 months ago
artimus

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Post your stuff and ask a fair price but be willing to deal with people and their questions and wanting to lowball everything and then when you make a deal ...suddenly they dont have the money or are non responsive.....good luck with it . I would love to see what you have and what you want....Fly Hard......Team Viagra
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07-06-2018 05:26 PM  16 months ago
RappyTappy

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Nature of the hobby: expect the unexpected. No one can possibly guarantee that electronics or mechanical items wont fail unexpectedly. Even buying brand new, you get a warranty but are still subject to the nature of the hobby because not even brand new can be 100% guaranteed to not fail unexpectedly and possibly cause a crash. So, its just a disclaimer, if you're afraid of buying used, move on and buy new, whats the problem?
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07-06-2018 06:39 PM  16 months ago
utahbob

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"nature of the hobby"
"This hobby is hard...I keep crashing the thing..see if you can fix it"
I do a great decending funnel!
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07-06-2018 09:39 PM  16 months ago
Heli_Splatter

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kglassman After reading this.....I don't know how to post my 35 years of collecting helicopters,.... what do you guys think I should do
We have made it sound a lot worse than it is. If you have quality stuff, you will be able to sell at reasonable prices. Describe the equipment as accurately as you are able to. I would price a bit higher than you want to give you some wiggle room downwards. Don't expect everything to go quickly. This is not a great economy for used man toys. Make sure that you indicate "used" in descriptions.
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07-06-2018 09:56 PM  16 months ago
Magnumeng

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I rearly sell anything hobby related.. Mainly cuz you never know when you need it... if and when i do sell stuff, it is at a fair price for each.. Normally i charge just above shipping for items.

When i buy, i now do it face to face... Not because getting burned, just because...
TDR, Kontronik Kosmik Cool 200, Kontronik 750-56, CGY750,
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07-07-2018 02:43 AM  16 months ago
wjvail

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"Sold as is" has a fairly specific legal meaning and implies known fault(s) have been disclosed and that unknown fault(s) are not warrantied. In effect it means I am selling this item described as accurately as is within my ability and faults found before or after the sale are the responsibility of the buyer.

Adding "...due to the nature of the hobby" is just a poor modifier suggesting why the item is being offered. It would be much clearer to separate the two statements and say "Sold as is. Selling because of insufficient funds to finish".

My wife and I just sold a house "as is". At one point the buyer had and inspection done prior to the sale and noted that there was dry rot on some of the eves. They asked us to repair the known fault. We responded that the house was being sold in the condition that it currently exits - as is. Faults were disclosed and acknowledged and it was agreed that the house would be sold with these faults and that is was the responsibility of the buyer to repair them if they saw fit.
"Well, nothing bad can happen now."
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