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07-29-2018 12:16 PM  4 months agoPost 21
Rojoalfa

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Internal resistence 1.8 mohm... Very nice... New

15 mohm... Mature

More than 25, getting older and dying...

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07-29-2018 01:45 PM  4 months agoPost 22
Jamovich

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The funny thing about the Revolectrix batteries is that the resistance is still very low...if not lower than the gensace batteries but they have just lost charge capacity...

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07-29-2018 08:35 PM  4 months agoPost 23
Rojoalfa

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Wait a minute... mV is one thing... Mohm is Another thing...

You can have a very Good balanced LIPO but still bad.
You can charge a lipo successfully but still bad.

Internal resistance is the key...

After 50 cycles, your LIPO are not the Same... IR increase in such a way, that discharge capacity put your pack on seriuos bad shape.

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07-29-2018 08:38 PM  4 months agoPost 24
JuanRodriguez

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Jamovich
The funny thing about the Revolectrix batteries is that the resistance is still very low...if not lower than the gensace batteries but they have just lost charge capacity..
Revolectrix batteries have a great reputation from what I read.....

Is there a chance you can charge them on someone else's charger just to eliminate an issue with your charger ???

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

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07-30-2018 01:48 PM  4 months agoPost 25
Richardmid1

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I presume he meant Mohm's.

Something's not quite right. A 4400mah pack with IR lower than 2 mohm's per cell should give very good performance and flight time!

Are you sure ALL the cells have roughly the same IR?

Are the packs puffed up when you land?

A 6 minute flight leaving 30% in the packs isn't a very strenuous flight and the packs should be lasting a long time.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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07-30-2018 01:59 PM  4 months agoPost 26
Jamovich

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Yes the performance isn’t the question it’s the capacity...I have done a capacity check multiple times and at least 1 pack only can take in 3000 mah, and the best 3800 (out of 4400) that is 86%...with 80% being replacement time

Battery set 1

A: 3504
B: 3886 (26/5)

Battery set 2

A: 3874
B: 3423 (26/5)

Battery set 3

A: 3806
B: 3000

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07-31-2018 11:18 AM  4 months agoPost 27
Richardmid1

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How are you doing a capacity check? You must discharge the pack to 3v/cell slowly (no more than 0.5C) and recharge.

Do you always parallel charge the packs? It is advisable to charge the packs individually every few cycles.

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07-31-2018 11:44 AM  4 months agoPost 28
Jamovich

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I did the capacity check using the “analyse cycle” feature on my Revo touch charger. I also charge each battery individually never exceeding 1 - 1.5C

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07-31-2018 01:11 PM  4 months agoPost 29
Rojoalfa

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OK... Now, I understand your point.

If you want that your lipo packs last for more than 50 cycles, never discharge above 70%.

IMO, a lipo pack can give safely half the capacity for each flight.

So, for 4400 mah, you just can discharge 2200 mah, hopefully at 3.8 volts.

The other half is not available, just because is below 3.8 volts, not safe.

Doing such a procedure to insist to get more than 80%, you will need more expenses...

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11-08-2018 03:20 AM  40 days agoPost 30
Rubine

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gens ace have 5000 12s 60c battery, and also 5000 6s 60c for two is fit
and if you want to get longer battery life, could obey to the lipo battery guide, never overdischarge, never over charge......

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11-08-2018 11:08 AM  40 days agoPost 31
Richardmid1

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Rojoalfa
OK... Now, I understand your point.

If you want that your lipo packs last for more than 50 cycles, never discharge above 70%.

IMO, a lipo pack can give safely half the capacity for each flight.

So, for 4400 mah, you just can discharge 2200 mah, hopefully at 3.8 volts.

The other half is not available, just because is below 3.8 volts, not safe.

Doing such a procedure to insist to get more than 80%, you will need more expenses...
Obviously the less you draw out of a pack the better for longevity but only taking 50% capacity is a bit extreme. Many believe in the 80% rule and people seem to have good success with this figure and get hundreds of cycles.

3.8v is perfectly safe, that is even above nominal voltage (3.7v). 3.7v is fine as a resting voltage and anything above 3.0v under load is safe.

The only time you would take LESS than 80% out is if you were discharging extremely fast, like less than 3 minute flight times!

The longer your flight time or the easier you fly the more capacity you can draw out without the voltage dipping too low. If you had a flight time of say 7 minutes+ you could safely take the pack down to around 10% remaining.

The only way to know how much you can remove from a pack is to look at the ESC logs to make sure the pack isn't dipping below 3.0v/cell under load.

Hope this helps.

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11-08-2018 11:12 AM  40 days agoPost 32
Jamovich

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Yes it would be ridiculous to only discharge batteries to 50% to guarantee advertised cycles (the usual expectation is 150)...that would make of ridiculously short flight times!

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