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05-30-2018 12:40 AM  15 months ago
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SkySurfer

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What’s the best glue for assembling the Vario wood work?

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05-30-2018 01:11 AM  15 months ago
ssmith512

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The best glue, in my opinion, is Hysol, also known as Loctite 9462. I buy mine from McMaster-Carr.Steve
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05-30-2018 02:54 AM  15 months ago
co_rotorhead

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+1 for Hysol 9462. Been using it for years on my scale models. Bonds everything to everything. Forever.

https://www.dreamworksrc.com/hysol-9462.html
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05-30-2018 10:30 PM  15 months ago
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what if not using Epoxy.. then what do you all like?

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05-31-2018 04:22 AM  15 months ago
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No replacement for hysol... period.
“What’s your Heli worth”?
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05-31-2018 04:40 AM  15 months ago
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Have to agree with Jim above; Hysol is the best. Roy Mayoral
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05-31-2018 01:10 PM  15 months ago
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Well.. no denying that but whats your health worth?

I cannot be around epoxy.. years of its use has rendered me unable to be around it.. ANY of it..

I can put on my fresh air hood and go outside (fresh air turbine in the house) and use epoxy but the weather has to be right and it has to stay out side for about 12 hours before I can be around it.

All I am looking for is.. what "other" adhesives have you had good luck with.

Then.. HEED ANY WARNINGS when using epoxy.. or you risk what I have and you SO DO NOT WANT THAT!.. nore do I want that for my heli budds!

I know Peter used a high performance tube adhesive but i can not remember the name.

Anyway.. carry on! I will keep lookin!

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05-31-2018 01:19 PM  15 months ago
ssmith512

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Grimracer...
what if not using Epoxy.. then what do you all like?
When Peter speaks I have learned to listen; he mentioned using a glue called PFM. I have no personal experience with this glue yet, but if Peter says it is good to go, then you can pretty much take that to the bank.
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05-31-2018 01:23 PM  15 months ago
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Peter Wales...
PFM? How to describe it? It is a clear adhesive which is very thick and viscous and comes in a tube like a toothpaste tube. It sets in air but has no solvent so doesn't smell or shrink. It sets to a rubbery consistency which hardens over about 24 hours but while it is hardening it runs slowly. If I want to glue something in an inaccessible place, I put a blob on a screwdriver and push it just above where I want it and let it slowly creep down into the joint and the joints are always smooth and clean.

I has tremendous strength but its weakest line is shear force so you can twist things apart if you want to get them apart, or start lifting and slicing the glue as you go along. Its really tough but has a little flexibility, will glue just about anything to anything and I always use it to glue woodwork to glass fiber...and I dont clean the glass fiber first, the PFM grabs it clean or not. If you dribble a bit where you dont want it, wait until its set and then peel it off. If you get it on your fingers, rub them together and it will peel away.

It used to be about $8 a tube when I first met it but it is much more expensive than that now, so I buy 3 or 4 tubes at a time knowing I will use them eventually, and the price will continue to rise.

Give it a try Mike, I am sure you will like it.
From this thread....

http://rc.runryder.com/t812804p1/
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05-31-2018 01:28 PM  15 months ago
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05-31-2018 01:58 PM  15 months ago
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I’ve always used this from BVM. http://bvmjets.com/Pages/Tips/comparison.htm
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05-31-2018 03:25 PM  15 months ago
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chopper37...
I’ve always used this from BVM. http://bvmjets.com/Pages/Tips/comparison.htm
That’s great but he’s already stated that he’s allergic to epoxy .....
Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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05-31-2018 05:49 PM  15 months ago
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Epoxies are easily overcome by using a barrier cream or Latex gloves.

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05-31-2018 09:30 PM  15 months ago
Grimracer

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Cannot put gloves on my lungs... I can touch it.. but I can not inhail the fumes.

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05-31-2018 09:57 PM  15 months ago
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So a “good” mask with correct vapour filters then ?

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05-31-2018 10:15 PM  15 months ago
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Vpoxy is rebranded hysol...
And the problem with PFM is that it gets brittle Over time and fails..
I don’t think Peter uses it anymore?
For a good “basic” wood glue and adhesive you can’t beat brown “Gorilla Glue”
I forgot to add : use gloves w/g,glue.. it stains fingers quite well...
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05-31-2018 10:41 PM  15 months ago
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I have to use a fresh air turbine system.. want to RUIN your hobby.. DONT head the warnings.

Please just use ALL EPOXY in a WELL ventilated area. And I do mean all of them.. JBWeld.. To West Systems.

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05-31-2018 11:42 PM  15 months ago
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Grimracer...
Please just use ALL EPOXY in a WELL ventilated area. And I do mean all of them.. JBWeld.. To West Systems.
Good advice Grim.
Steve
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06-01-2018 11:59 AM  15 months ago
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I have never known PFM to get brittle and I still use it. I buy it from Graves, 6 tubes at a time so I always have some.

The only caveat I would make is that it does not like Kerosene so its not for turbine helis
Peter Wales
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06-01-2018 12:10 PM  15 months ago
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Just wondering about carpenters glue ??
Any good ?
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