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05-19-2018 07:32 PM  5 months agoPost 1
nheather

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RC flying used to be my main hobby and I regularly flew fixed wing. I then wanted to get into helis so bought some reasonable gear but never learned to fly past simple hovering. And then, for various reasons, work, health, location, other hobbies, I gave up - that was 6 or 7 years ago.

Now I want to get back into RC flying both fixed and rotary wing but I realise that since I've been away electric has come on a very long way. I hope to still be able to use my current aircraft but as they break or crash I expect to move to electric.

But is what I have at the moment even worth bothering with

It is a Thunder Tiger Raptor 50, with OS SX-50H Ringed, GY-401 with digital tail servo, GV-1, half decent servos elesewhere. Futaba 2.4 radio. This one has mechanical mixing.

I hope it is still okay rather than having to buy afresh.

Also, if I do decide to go electric is it worth converting this (is it even possible) or would I be better just getting a new airframe.

And finally, what are good electric alternatives to the Raptor 50?

Cheers,

Nigel

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05-19-2018 08:39 PM  5 months agoPost 2
ticedoff8

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Flush out the engine, get new flight batteries and fly the R50 as is.
There are still replacement parts available (in case of crash) and it fits your experience level.

After you get to a point where you are getting bored with the R50, then you will have a better idea about what the best "next helicopter" is for you.
It could be electric or another nitro.

Be warned that a e-conversion of the R50 results in a Frankinstein's Copter where you spend more time troubleshooting and repairing than flying.

And, a fresh start in e-Heli would require a pretty large investment in support systems (chargers, batteries and such) not to mention the cost of an e-heli airframe and components.

But, if you decided to move to e-Heli, look at the Goblin 500 or 570 as an alternative to the R50 sized nitro.
Use the Brain 2 or the iKON 2 flybarless controller with the Futaba S-Bus and a Castle Creations Edge HV ESC.

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05-20-2018 02:44 AM  5 months agoPost 3
chicken

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Time to move on. Parts r like chasing a ghost There's Thunder tiger from somewhere in Asia major crash parts r out. If on ebay expect to pay outrageous prices for said parts. Graupner was supposed to be taking over since a year ago, called to confirm told yes they would be the supplier. Still waiting so I gave up. Moving on some manufacturers still worthwhile are: 1.Align 550x, 2.Mikado Usa's 550se & the slightly updated 550. Sab 500/570 which I'm still on the fence about. Build too me was overly complicated & the pricing on the common crash parts r expensive.
And there's also the synergy 516 in which I've read good things about. But the hobby has continued to get too expensive ( servos,fbl some escs) & overly complicated compared to the use of the tried & true 401 gyro.
And I'll probably get flack for saying that but it's true. I'm giving u the comparison from what you have to moving forward to the now scenario f.b.l. units 1. Ikon/ msh Brain ( easy to setup & understand 2. Mikado Neo ( registration of unit, then downloading u.s.b recognition, then key file painful & will make u want to forget the whole thing.) 5 root canals & a blood transfusion r less painful. Once finished & setup correctly it's a thing of symphonic orchestra beauty. Escs to each his own. I like the castle creations 120h.v. not too expensive or complicated & built in bec. That's again to move u forward from the great 401 Era.

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05-20-2018 07:55 AM  5 months agoPost 4
nheather

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@Chicken

Thanks for the reply, didn’t really understand much in your reply, probably because I’ve been out of the hobby for so long that the products and manufacturers that you mentioned are unknown to me.

But at I high level I think you said that Thunder Tiger no longer exist and that getting spare parts for my Raptor 50 would be near impossible or very expensive.

So my take on that is that I can continue flying the Raptor 50 but after the first accident/breakage (even a minor ine) it is going to be scrap.

Did I understand that bit correctly?

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05-20-2018 12:00 PM  5 months agoPost 5
ICUR1-2

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nheather
So my take on that is that I can continue flying the Raptor 50 but after the first accident/breakage (even a minor ine) it is going to be scrap.

Did I understand that bit correctly?
Yup pretty much what he said.
There's a lot to choose from going forward. If you want an affordable electric stick with 550 size to 450. The batteries and a decent charger won't break the bank.
If you want nitro try audacity models. Or an Align 600N.
For a Lil bit more there's synergy and Hirobo.

Everything is flybarless now and the controller doesn't cost much more than a decent tail gyro used to.
Plus now there is the added feature of rescue mode.

spending time, paying attention

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05-20-2018 01:03 PM  5 months agoPost 6
wjvail

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nheather
So my take on that is that I can continue flying the Raptor 50 but after the first accident/breakage (even a minor ine) it is going to be scrap.
Hmm... Not entirely. Parts are still available but not like they used to be. Much of what you might need can be had here -> http://heli-kraft.com/index.php?rou...ategory&path=96

Furthermore, the Thunder Tiger brand does appear to be making a comeback under Graupner. See here -> https://www.graupner.com/Models/Air...elicopters/?p=1

But yes, crashing a R50 is going to be more painful than when HeliProz was around.

"Well, Nothing bad can happen now."

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05-20-2018 05:03 PM  5 months agoPost 7
chicken

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Yes that pretty much sums it up. It will be a scavenger hunt for crash parts. Again, to mimic what you're used to for an electric i'd suggest an ikon/msh Brain fbl controller"the basic settings mimic a 401 fb type style).
A castle creations 90 or 120 esc( again not too expensive & easy setup with a decent set of servos. And of course if nitro is preferred then minus out the esc

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05-20-2018 10:51 PM  5 months agoPost 8
payne1967

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fly the raptor
when you crash Eddies heli bits on ebay is the place for parts or get a cheap used airframe

for a more modern machine look at the align trex 550e or 600e for electric models
or the 600 nitro and swap the engine from the raptor into it

www.alcesterhelicopterclub.bmfa.org

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