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04-29-2018 05:46 PM  16 months ago
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UKhelinoob

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Right motor..
Guys is this motor powerful enough for a 450L Dominator, in other words will it be able to swing the Dominator's longer blades, and it's torque tube/boom too..You see I don't want to pay $35 for a genuine motor from a Dominator, as I have 2 of these ones...

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04-29-2018 08:01 PM  16 months ago
Pistol Pete

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Doing 3D or just hovering? If 3D, forget it.

Furthermore, you would have to go 3S LiPo.

460MX motor specs
Input voltage:6S
Max continuous current:30A/45A(5sec)
Max output power:Approx. 650w/970W(5sec)
KV value:1800KV
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04-29-2018 11:13 PM  16 months ago
UKhelinoob

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Pistol Pete...
Doing 3D or just hovering? If 3D, forget it.

Furthermore, you would have to go 3S LiPo.

460MX motor specs
Input voltage:6S
Max continuous current:30A/45A(5sec)
Max output power:Approx. 650w/970W(5sec)
KV value:1800KV
Just for hovering and flying around. No 3D..
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04-30-2018 12:11 AM  16 months ago
JuanRodriguez

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UKhelinoob...
You see I don't want to pay $35 for a genuine motor from a Dominator
WoW, really ?? You're in the wrong hobby !!!
Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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04-30-2018 01:06 AM  16 months ago
UKhelinoob

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JuanRodriguez...
UKhelinoob...
You see I don't want to pay $35 for a genuine motor from a Dominator
WoW, really ?? You're in the wrong hobby !!!
On No another joke. Can't you do any better things here than make these comments..( Anyway, I found a Gartt motor. Same specs.. But only $25.00 shipped (The other guy wanted shipping too). A few dollars saved can go to other parts for my Dominator CLONE that I'm building (Some Align parts will be in it), so I have 3 helis on the go.. That Nitro one.. The 450x (Needs radio gear installed), and the very first Dominator CLONE... Oh, any donations of parts will be greatly appreciated...

E-Razor heli is my training one, as I have 2 of them.. Both complete with radio and in their original boxes (I have lots of spares for them both now). But one I'll convert one to a Fly Bar version (Parts on order), and I'll use one of the FLB units in my Dominator CLONE, as they are very easy to setup using my laptop...
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04-30-2018 01:43 AM  16 months ago
JuanRodriguez

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Wow !! That’s an awful lot of editing before giving me a chance to respond !!

No, my comment was not “joke”.

In this hobby , spending $35 bucks for what is basically the “heart “ of the heli is a drop in the bucket .....

If you’re not willing to do that, well...... I’ve already said it !
Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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04-30-2018 01:45 AM  16 months ago
UKhelinoob

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Well to me your the joker of Runyder, and I bet that if you flew any finished ones. You would crash them eh?? into a pole

Oh, I like to edit too..
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04-30-2018 01:52 AM  16 months ago
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Yep, for sure !

But you won’t catch me trying to cobble up junk just because it was a “good deal “
Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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04-30-2018 01:54 AM  16 months ago
UKhelinoob

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JuanRodriguez...
Yep, for sure !

But you won’t catch me trying to cobble up junk just because it was a “good deal “
Hey another joke, and none of my heli stuff is junk.... Want a 3.5 channel heli, as you can crash that one (It might be above your heli flying experience though)
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04-30-2018 01:55 AM  16 months ago
JuanRodriguez

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Glad you’re convinced Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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04-30-2018 01:59 AM  16 months ago
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Please keep this in mind,

You have to admit what you don’t know what you don’t know. When venturing into something new, you have to know what you don’t know.

There are many ways to do things. As this point in the hobby, you have a lot of figuring to do. Yes you can research by specs but sometime those numbers are inflated and fudge and do fully understand how to plug in those numbers to an overall moving equation?

There are many people that have been in your shoes and gone through what you are trying to do. Find someone experienced locally (preferable) and go with their suggestions instead of figuring out. They did all the hard part.

As far as motors, always find the most powerful one that will work for your application. It’s ideal to have 1 good machine vs many OK heli. I understand you are trying to keep your routine going, that is why you are compromising with price. I notice you are still asking about kv and Motor recommendations. Many heli’s will not give you the confidence as a good SIM & 1 properly equipped Heli.
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04-30-2018 02:02 AM  16 months ago
UKhelinoob

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Heli Fanatix...
Please keep this in mind,

You have to admit what you don’t know what you don’t know. When venturing into something new, you have to know what you don’t know.

There are many ways to do things. As this point in the hobby, you have a lot of figuring to do. Yes you can research by specs but sometime those numbers are inflated and fudge and do fully understand how to plug in those numbers to an overall moving equation?

There are many people that have been in your shoes and gone through what you are trying to do. Find someone experienced locally (preferable) and go with their suggestions instead of figuring out. They did all the hard part.

As far as motors, always find the most powerful one that will work for your application. It’s ideal to have 1 good machine vs many OK heli. I understand you are trying to keep your routine going, that is why you are compromising with price. I notice you are still asking about kv and Motor recommendations. Many heli’s will not give you the confidence as a good SIM & 1 properly equipped Heli.
Yep your right Scott.. JuanRodriguez should be reading this... Not me

Oh, I've found a powerful motor for my Dominator CLONE, and the 11t slant gear to go with it since the shaft diam is 3.17mm (Not 3.50mm)

Oh, my Sim arrived (I bought it on eBay), and it's from China complete with USB TX..
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04-30-2018 12:13 PM  16 months ago
JuanRodriguez

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UKhelinoob...
Yep your right Scott.. JuanRodriguez should be reading this... Not me
Oh, trust me.... I'm reading it !

But it is directed at you..... but I don't think that you're UNDERSTANDING what he's trying to tell you !!
Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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04-30-2018 01:38 PM  16 months ago
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Geez Louise, someone is becoming deserving of my ignore list and it isn't Juan.

Juan made the comment that there are some areas in which going "cheap" might not be the best thing to do. And because of that you want to attack his piloting skills? Unbelievable!
Gerry Cullan,
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04-30-2018 01:53 PM  16 months ago
VinceY

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When you ask for advice, you have to consider the fact that you may hear something you don’t like. Juan is giving you good advice.Team Synergy/ Rail Blades
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04-30-2018 02:06 PM  16 months ago
JuanRodriguez

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gmcullan...
Geez Louise, someone is becoming deserving of my ignore list and it isn't Juan.

Juan made the comment that there are some areas in which going "cheap" might not be the best thing to do. And because of that you want to attack his piloting skills? Unbelievable!
VinceY...
When you ask for advice, you have to consider the fact that you may hear something you don’t like. Juan is giving you good advice.
Thanks, guys......

Admittedly, I have been "joking" around here and there with UK but many of my comments are legit as I see you guys are in agreement....

But perhaps I should back off a bit and work on my sensitivity skills a bit.....

The sad thing is that over the many years in this hobby , I've seen many pilots going this way.... ie, buy all of these oddball type of stuff with "custom parts" just because the appear to be a "good deal".....

Then they find out that due to parts availability/compatibility the items eventually become shelf queens.......What was a "good deal" becomes money flushed down the toilet......

The best advice I've read on this thread is from Scott..... ie, to find someone local who is knowledgeable and get it done right.....
Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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04-30-2018 02:07 PM  16 months ago
UKhelinoob

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gmcullan...
Geez Louise, someone is becoming deserving of my ignore list and it isn't Juan.

Juan made the comment that there are some areas in which going "cheap" might not be the best thing to do. And because of that you want to attack his piloting skills? Unbelievable!
Well it looks like you all don't like jokes, as that's all they are (No pun intended).... Also none of my heli's (Except for the 450x) will be self queens, and here's nothing wrong with miss mash builds..No harm done... You'll see.. Plus, I have to fit a camera to my 4 channel MJX heli, as I have the wireless camera that fits it.. Because my next door neighbor might be a dirty old man. You see he came into my back yard and made a small part of the wooden fence higher (It's high anyway), so I want to see what the bugger is getting up to there..

Oh, here's a picture of the chassis that I'll be using for my Align T-rex 450L Dominator clone.. Because the longer torque tube boom will fit.. The motor will be under the main gear not above it though.. But that plastic tail servo mount has to go.. Aluminum one will be better, and this landing skid that I bought will be perfect to go on my Dominator and this rotor head too.. But I'll change the rubber dampers that are in it to align ones... Want a picture when it's finished, and what should I call the heli.. T-Rex/Dominator..

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04-30-2018 11:28 PM  16 months ago
UKhelinoob

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Oh guys how come when you buy a 450 frame set.. You don't get the servo mounting kit. Only one frame kit came with them.. Does the servo just screw in to the carbon fiber holes. If not where can I get the servo mounting kit from, so I can install them into this frame.. Here's picture of a set..

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04-30-2018 11:38 PM  16 months ago
JuanRodriguez

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UKhelinoob...
Oh guys how come when you buy a 450 frame set.. You don't get the servo mounting kit. Only one frame kit came with them.. Does the servo just screw in to the carbon fiber holes. If not where can I get the servo mounting kit from, so I can install them into this frame.. Here's picture of a set..
No, you can’t just screw them into the carbon frame ..... you need the plastic/metal backers (depending on the screw) that go behind the frame where the screws go into .....

Do you have or can you download a building/owners manual ??
Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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04-30-2018 11:59 PM  16 months ago
Heli Fanatix

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Perfect example of:

If you don’t ask, they don’t tell... but how do you ask if you didn’t know what to ask? Well, consider this a lesson and now We are sure you will ask about Servo mounting hardware next time you buy a frame.

But to answer you question
- the servos Do Not mount directly into the CF frame
- if this is new from a clone vendor, it’s typical when it’s not BNF
- if it’s from a forum member, politely ask the seller (and leave out the jokes)
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