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04-17-2018 07:43 AM  6 months agoPost 1
eric_b

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An oldie, but still one of my favorite heli videos. I couldn't seem to find it anywhere anymore - it used to be on Augusto’s heli video server - now long gone and before Youtube (!) But I found a copy lurking on an old machine, so enjoy!

Watch at YouTube

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04-17-2018 11:02 AM  6 months agoPost 2
Daved Gutierrez

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Awesome! brings back so many good memories the warning at the beginning of the video made smile "extreme flight" it's amazing how much the technology and pilot skills have improved over the last 10 years. Thanks for sharing.

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04-17-2018 11:36 AM  6 months agoPost 3
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I can't tell you how much I missed the old days! I was always looking forward to the Szabos and Krause demos!

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04-17-2018 01:36 PM  6 months agoPost 4
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Odd as it sounds, I really miss those raptors. They were what really got me into helis as they were reliable and cheap. That's awesome

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04-24-2018 02:17 PM  5 months agoPost 5
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Daved Gutierrez
it's amazing how much the technology and pilot skills have improved over the last 10 years.
I would say that, because of technology, pilot skill isn't what it used to be! It was harder back then!

60% of the time, it works every time!

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04-26-2018 05:27 PM  5 months agoPost 6
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I would say that, because of technology, pilot skill isn't what it used to be! It was harder back then!
you are right, what now seems like a simple rolling loop or pirouetting loop that not many top pilots perform now days were very hard to achieve back in the day when servo torque/speed and engine power were so low compared to today.

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04-27-2018 11:44 AM  5 months agoPost 7
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It's more the fact it is flybarred and inconsistent tail gyros that made it harder back then.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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05-05-2018 03:56 PM  5 months agoPost 8
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Yes, it is fascinating to watch this and think how much pilot skill, air frame engineering, electronics and battery technology have changed since then. For me the Raptor was the first in the era of plug and play machines. No longer was it expected that you'd have to spend $500-800 on a heli, and then have to spend another $500+ on extra parts to make it fly "well" and be reliable.

Makes me wanna go fly my Raptor again

Anyone know when this video might have been taken? If I recall correctly, the original Raptor 30 (29bb version) came out in '99. Then came the 49bb version, and then the Raptor 50 (v1), I think around 2001-2. I'm guessing this video was around that time.

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05-06-2018 07:30 AM  5 months agoPost 9
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Then came the 49bb version, and then the Raptor 50 (v1), I think around 2001-2. I'm guessing this video was around that time.
It might have been slightly before that. As you know Runryder was founded late 2001 and a search for "Raptor 50" suggests people were already flying them in October 2001.

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05-06-2018 04:32 PM  5 months agoPost 10
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My guess is that it was released towards the end of 1998. I bought my first Heli at the end of 1999 and I believe the raptor was already available.

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05-07-2018 06:06 PM  5 months agoPost 11
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A year ago I got nostalgic for my fighting Raptor 30V2. I know this is a R50 thread but, hey, they are so similar.

Anyway. Years of enjoyment had left it generally healthy but in need of freshening up. Attached are pictures of it in various stages of cleaning.

A deep cleaning like this is obviously a bit of an undertaking but it is enjoyable work and the results feel so good.

The pictures are not in order but the weather outside is far too nice to sit at my computer and monkey with them.

Just thought I'd share.

Bill

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05-23-2018 11:34 AM  4 months agoPost 12
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That is one upgraded Raptor 30! I'm loving the wooden fan shroud extension!

60% of the time, it works every time!

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05-23-2018 02:06 PM  4 months agoPost 13
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That is one upgraded Raptor 30!
All this talk of Raptors made made me nostalgic. I took the fighting R30 out last weekend. I put 3 tanks through it and was grinning like a 10 year old on his birthday. 3 flights was just under 40 minutes flying and I would guess less than 5 of them were upright. The little .37 was just singing. Below a few pics from last weekend.

I just check my log and the R30V2 now has 70.02 hours on it and flights back to Oct 2002.
Richardmid1
I'm loving the wooden fan shroud extension
That is just a little "stuffer" that fills the excess space between the shroud and the OS .37 head. It forces the air between the head fins. It always seemed pretty clear to me that the Raptor 30 was designed from the beginning to grow into a 50. Anyway- I don't know if does any good. It's just something I tried more than a decade ago. Doesn't seem to hurt anything so I left it.

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05-23-2018 02:12 PM  4 months agoPost 14
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THanks for posting. I think I saw this when I was in grade school lol. Memories! Wish Augusto still had his video server. Jerry Sudimick had some decent vids on there from the Las Vegas FF. Old school Curtis vids and Jason Krause too. Good old days!

-Dave

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05-23-2018 03:01 PM  4 months agoPost 15
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05-23-2018 05:40 PM  4 months agoPost 16
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Awesome! I remember downloading these! Thanks for posting!

-Dave

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05-23-2018 10:08 PM  4 months agoPost 17
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Thanks you for the link I always wanted a copy of my old videos and I have it RR is awesome

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08-14-2018 11:25 PM  63 days agoPost 18
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Sure do miss my old 30 and 50. They were fun. Could you imagine most newer pilots trying to fly them not having collective management that it took to fly a lot of maneuvers?

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08-20-2018 01:29 PM  58 days agoPost 19
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CHoliday
Could you imagine most newer pilots trying to fly them not having collective management that it took to fly a lot of maneuvers?
They would be like "wait, you can only get 10 degrees of pitch?!". Haha.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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08-20-2018 04:54 PM  58 days agoPost 20
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CHoliday
Could you imagine most newer pilots trying to fly them not having collective management that it took to fly a lot of maneuvers?
They would be like "wait, you can only get 10 degrees of pitch?!". Haha.
It's an odd situation... While my R50 is heavy and doesn't make power like an electric, and the R30 is far less powerful, weighs the same as a 50 and only has 550 blades, I find I don't have to manage collective that much. There isn't that much pitch. In fact there is no pop in the model at all and you have to readjust to moving the sticks to their extremes to get the model to move. Doing any acrobatics with an R30 requires touching the stick stops often.

What I do have to manage is the models energy. Getting an R30 inverted isn't difficult but you can't just hork back on the cyclic and dump the collective and expect it not to loose altitude. It's best to get the model moving upwards and maybe a little forwards and sort-of loop into inverted. It isn't hard at all but you can't just pop the thing inverted like even a 450. If you get the model descending in acrobatics it will take full collective and a moment to arrest the decent. With as much as the model weighs, 550 blades and only 10 degrees of pitch, nothing happens fast.

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