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04-07-2018 04:23 AM  3 months agoPost 21
PaulBowen

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I believe there may be an Australian connection with TSA although to me it looks like marketing only, who knows.

The TSA website has no metion whatsoever of Australia except for Model Flight being mentioned as the Australian retailer. As for Model Flight they don’t actually appear to sell TSA at all. The ‘About Us’ section of their website there is full of mumblings of quality, perfection and all of the other usual marketing talk but with no actual real information.

I would expect a proud Australian company to give a brief description of its owner and history including the fact it is the only Australian RC helicopter manufacturer.

I could be wrong but to me it looks only to be the marketing front of a Chinese model helicopter manufacturer. Nothing wrong with that I guess?

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04-07-2018 10:01 AM  3 months agoPost 22
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TSA helicopter designer and creator Nigel Brown is Australian but the TSA helicopter brand is made in china, TSA 50 size heli is a beefy slightly shrunken 90 helicopter, a shame they just did not become very popular as they are well made.

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04-07-2018 10:40 AM  3 months agoPost 23
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Marketing is everything.

I guess a website with a bit more of a meaningful and convincing narrative would translate to more sales.

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04-07-2018 10:50 AM  3 months agoPost 24
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...a shame they just did not become very popular as they are well made.
Let's not give up on them yet. They are still here and still a very viable option. Their quality far exceeds what their price would suggest. Becoming popular is still possible. I suppose that is why they came up in this thread.

https://www.amainhobbies.com/nitro-...96?fb=851&lg=fb

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04-07-2018 02:51 PM  3 months agoPost 25
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I opted for the Pantera, as a heli made by a guy who loves helis, whom I've met in person, and who is in the business not just for chasing $$$ (although of course he's obviously gotta make some to keep going).

"The helicopter is much easier to design than the aeroplane, but is worthless when done."

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04-07-2018 02:57 PM  3 months agoPost 26
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I opted for the Pantera, as a heli made by a guy who loves helis, whom I've met in person, and who is in the business not just for chasing $$$ (although of course he's obviously gotta make some to keep going).
I suppose you are talking about this helicopter? I don't find many people distributing this model so I suppose we buy direct? http://www.audacitymodels.com/Produ...02/Default.aspx

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04-07-2018 05:20 PM  3 months agoPost 27
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After flying on and off for over 40 yrs, I find my entire collection of Century heli stuff is junk, obsolete and parts are zilch, nada, gone.
30 years for me and same story with my Robbe, Graupner and Vario (to a lesser degree) machines. Audacity caught my eye... reminds me of the Raptor. However at a recent swap meet I picked up a Trex 600E and after going through it and flying it I was reasonable impressed... so much so that I just picked up a 800 (stretched 700) wich is my first FBL and am having a blast with it. Learning about electrics, FBL and the various makes and latest equipment has made it a new hobby for me.... fortunatly I don't have to go through the pain of learning to fly again.

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04-07-2018 09:22 PM  3 months agoPost 28
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I'm a Align 600N fan, flying the same one I got back in '08. Of course after 10 years worth of crashes and upgrades not much of it is original any more, but it still flies great.

"I'm a dirt torpedo!"

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04-07-2018 10:17 PM  3 months agoPost 29
jbjones

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TSA 50 size heli is a beefy slightly shrunken 90 helicopter, a shame they just did not become very popular as they are well made.
I agree. But they aren't dead, they're still here and supported. Still plenty of time to become more popular than they are.

I fly their 700N and 700E. Excellent machines. I really don't know why they haven't caught on. $450 for a 90 kit? I'll be buying and flying that all day long. And I do. The Pro versions are completely adequate, and very tough. Don't see why the 50's would be any different.

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04-08-2018 01:35 AM  3 months agoPost 30
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Thanks guys, for the replies and great observations.
Much is backwards in life. Getting older, working harder, making bank, very little time to fly.
When younger, no money, lots of flying, building and having fun.
Hope to get off the hamster wheel and fly my butt off till I drop.
Flew partly Hirobo, many years ago with GMP Competitor! That machine really taught me to fly. Flew it for 3 yrs and learned loops and rolls, stall turns and autos and it never had a gyro whole time I owned it. That took concentration.
Owned several Schuluter machines, then a couple Ergo 60's a couple Vigors (still have one flying) and a couple bushel baskets of Century helis and parts.
After a the advice you folks have imparted, I'm leaning hard towards either Synergy or Audacity. I will never wear out either one flying sportsman type stuff.
I roll, loop, stall turns, inverted hovers, pirouettes, etc.
Mostly enjoying flying precision approaches and autos to a preselected spot landing. I don't get much out of 3 D flying, yet appreciate the skill required.
On a side note.... The TSA models really get my interest. I just have little confidence in buying into what possibly might turn into another orphan brand. I have plenty of experience already in that department. I never dreamed Hirobo,JR and Miniature would fold their tents and move on? Seems no hobby company has a ton of traction these days.I personally believe you can only upset and change the tech., so fast and then you burn out your market.
In my lifetime I've watched this churning in the market for any number of products.
I know that nitro might be old school but, I love fogging up the field on a calm morning. Ah, the smell of nitro in the morning!
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04-08-2018 02:26 AM  3 months agoPost 31
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Great to hear Rotoman.

BTW, Hirobo have not closed their doors. They are still producing fantastic helicopters. They just don’t have the popularity with the 3d crowd which seems to dominate in the USA.

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04-08-2018 03:39 AM  3 months agoPost 32
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BTW, Hirobo have not closed their doors. They are still producing fantastic helicopters. They just don’t have the popularity with the 3d crowd which seems to dominate in the USA.
Where and how do we buy 50 Hirobos? Maybe here? https://hirobofanusa.com/products/h...3-swm-sl-rh-kit

Is Hirobo like Kyosho - they never stopped making helicopters even though they don't have a dedicated US distributor? http://quest-co.jp/rc/neofbl-50.html

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04-08-2018 03:57 AM  3 months agoPost 33
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Yes!

Or https://rcjapan.net/

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04-08-2018 08:18 PM  3 months agoPost 34
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Almost. N556. And I don't think they aren't out yet. They are pre-order only. How can you recommend one (in bold)? Or did I misread the comment?
Hi, thanks for catching my slight typo. I've owned a N5C and it was the best 50 size heli I've ever had, still regret selling it. I've also owned a E5 and E7 and they have all been great helis. The N556 (got it right this time ) in my mind will be a winner based on my previous good experiences. My eye is on a N7 in the near future. From Mr Botos, the N556 will be stretchable to 600mm blades.

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04-09-2018 06:08 PM  3 months agoPost 35
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I suppose you are talking about this helicopter? I don't find many people distributing this model so I suppose we buy direct? http://www.audacitymodels.com/Produ...02/Default.aspx
Yep, that's the one. Don't know if there are dealers / distributors for those, so direct is most likely.

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04-09-2018 08:30 PM  3 months agoPost 36
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Hirobo doesn't get the respect they deserve,they have been around a long time making very reliable and great flying models.Ive flown Hirobo for years,plenty of parts available and new models are being produced.

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04-10-2018 01:56 AM  3 months agoPost 37
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Hirobo doesn't get the respect they deserve,they have been around a long time making very reliable and great flying models.
Think I could have been very happy w. Hirobo machines. Spent many hours/yrs and good times w. a Shuttle ZX. When the GPH came out, thought that would be a nice upgrade, never jumped on it; REally liked the eagle/freyas, never
jumped on them. Jr came out w. the Ergos by then......always kind of felt like I 'betrayed' Hirobo......

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04-10-2018 02:26 AM  3 months agoPost 38
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Hirobo doesn't get the respect they deserve,they have been around a long time making very reliable and great flying models.Ive flown Hirobo for years,plenty of parts available and new models are being produced.
Hirobo machines are good quality and fly very well
But they have a high parts count compared to machines like a T rex or a Synergy
Which means there is more to fix when they hit ground they also have a lot of plastic parts which usually means more $$$ to repair

I like them a lot but when I run out of spares for the 4 I have now I will be done with them probably

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04-11-2018 06:45 PM  3 months agoPost 39
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Hands down go with synergy, Matt keeps the stock of parts up, and fast shipping, and a synergy Forum. I have 4 synergy's Cliff

E5s and E7se,and a 766, Roban bell 222 800 superscale,450 bell 4 bladed head,gobby 380and 420 ,180cfx

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04-12-2018 07:03 AM  3 months agoPost 40
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Hirobo all the way for 50 size

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