RunRyder RC
WATCH
 1 page 472 views POST REPLY
HomeAircraftHelicopterKyosho Caliber/Quest Neo-Caliber series › Neo-Caliber ZG build
03-02-2018 10:05 AM  6 months agoPost 1
Olorin5

rrNovice

Taupo, New Zealand

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

It will be a while before the build actually happens but I thought I would kick things off with a few un-boxing photos.
Although I am very familiar with the Caliber series this will be my first gasser heli and first 3-bladed head so that part will be a bit of a learning curve. Because of this I'm not sure at this stage what sort of head speed I should be running, and choice of M/R blades. Stock gear ratio for this helicopter is 7.9:1 but I also have the option of 7.55:1, 7.73:1, 9.06:1, 9.27:1 & 9.48:1 so I'll have to crunch some numbers and see. If anyone as any input regarding this feel free to jump in.

For this build I will bet using the following:

Radio: 18MZ
Receiver: R7008SB
Gyro: CGY750 (although I'm waiting to hear what Futaba might be releasing soon.....)
Swash servos: undecided
Throttle servo: undecided
Tail servo: BLS256SV
M/R blades: no idea yet
Powerplant: Zenoah G260PUH (stock at this stage, but I've been reading a bit about these being problematic in certain airframes without mods....time will tell)
Muffler: Stock Zeonah muffler was included but I have an Hatori GSH-29 #956 as well. The thing that struck me about the Hatori is the size - it is one big muffler.

I have a spare Quest 3-blade tail rotor set lying about so I will probably use that in this build. The ZG comes with high skids (as shown in the photo) but it is likely I'll use a set of standard low skids that I have in my spares box. I will also do the usual trick of adding an extra main shaft bearing in the middle ladder frame.

Many of the parts are similar or identical to the C60/C90/C90v06 and the ZG kit didn't really give any surprises except for the fact that it has a longer (900mm) tail boom made of metal not CF.
A nice touch by Quest was the inclusion of CA6504 gyro mount which is a upgrade part originally made for the C60 and goes between the top CF servo frames just in front of the starter wand.

Feel free to jump in with any suggestions or questions. More to follow.....

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-02-2018 02:31 PM  6 months agoPost 2
Pistol Pete

rrProfessor

Seffner, FL

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Olorin5
I will also do the usual trick of adding an extra main shaft bearing in the middle ladder frame.
Subscribed.

Never seen one in person and definitely curious about that extra bearing.

What size and type of blades will you be using?

Canopy material?

Where did you purchase it from?

Thanks for sharing.

~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-02-2018 02:32 PM  6 months agoPost 3
Steve_JR

rrVeteran

Mount Joy, PA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Very cool, I’ll be following along!

Steve - Mount Joy RC Club

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-02-2018 02:45 PM  6 months agoPost 4
jbjones

rrVeteran

Columbus, Mississippi

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Looks great. Thanks for posting this. I like the 3-blade head. Looking forward to seeing this get built.

J. B. Jones

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-02-2018 05:32 PM  6 months agoPost 5
Olorin5

rrNovice

Taupo, New Zealand

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Pistol Pete
Olorin5
I will also do the usual trick of adding an extra main shaft bearing in the middle ladder frame.
Subscribed.

Never seen one in person and definitely curious about that extra bearing.

What size and type of blades will you be using?

Canopy material?

Where did you purchase it from?

Thanks for sharing.
The C90v06 & CZG both share the same middle ladder frame which has a provision to hold an extra 12x24x6mm main shaft bearing. For some reason it isn’t included in the kit and I think the model benefits from it. If you look at the ladder frame in the left side of bag MF1 in photo 3 you can see what I mean.
Really not sure about blades yet but will likely to be a set of CF 690-710mm (ish). As mentioned this is my first gasser and 3-blade head so I think I’ll have to experiment a bit with gear ratio, headspeed and blades.
Canopy is fibreglass, moulded and finished to a high standard which is typical of the Kyosho/Quest helis.
I got the kit from RC Japan.
Thanks for looking, keep the questions coming.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-19-2018 12:34 AM  6 months agoPost 6
F3CWNB

rrVeteran

Napier, New Zealand

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Looks god Tom, and I'm confident that you will finish this build loooong before I finish my Eagle3

'Life' is Looking Up!!!

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-19-2018 10:00 AM  6 months agoPost 7
PaulBowen

rrKey Veteran

Victoria, Australia.

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Very exciting. I’d really love a Quest Caliber.

I really love my JR GSR260Z FBL Sport and it’s Zenoah G260PUH, it’s my favourite. Luxury!

The Japanese make beautiful helicopters.

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-15-2018 08:23 AM  5 months agoPost 8
Olorin5

rrNovice

Taupo, New Zealand

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

A few more photos of the start of the build, no loctite yet just seeing how everything goes together.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-15-2018 09:38 AM  5 months agoPost 9
PaulBowen

rrKey Veteran

Victoria, Australia.

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Wow amazing quality.

I’m planning on replacing my JR GSR260Z FBL Sport with a Caliber ZG at some stage.

I’m just wondering about the mounting plate on the Zenoah engine. The standard Zenoah plate is stamped and not worthy of mounting on a fine helicopter whereas the GSR260Z uses a slightly wider and beautiful machined plate. I am curious about how expensive and difficult it would be to get one of the correct size fabricated for the Caliber in the trademark gold to match the Quest quality.

Futaba T18SZ, JR Propo XG14, Hirobo fanatic!

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-15-2018 11:16 AM  5 months agoPost 10
Olorin5

rrNovice

Taupo, New Zealand

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Yes I know what you mean, compared to the kit components the engine mount does look bit agricultural. No reason why one couldn't machine a new mounting plate, possibly something to look at in the future.
While on the subject of engine mounting, at this stage I can't see a way of adjusting the spacing to get perfect drive belt tension with this kit. I won't know the until I actually install the engine if any modification is required, but of course I'm hoping drive belt tension will be perfect as it is.
One thing I noticed is that the counter shaft assembly had quite a bit of vertical play in the ladder frame which will need to be shimmed (never had any on my other Calibers).

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-15-2018 02:16 PM  5 months agoPost 11
wjvail

rrKey Veteran

Meridian, Mississippi

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Is this the helicopter and engine being discussed? Is this where you bought from?

https://www.rcjapan.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=15511

"Well, Nothing bad can happen now."

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-15-2018 02:39 PM  5 months agoPost 12
Olorin5

rrNovice

Taupo, New Zealand

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Yes it is. For some reason the kit was on special when I ordered it, didn’t pay anything like that price.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-15-2018 03:43 PM  5 months agoPost 13
wjvail

rrKey Veteran

Meridian, Mississippi

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Olorin5
For some reason the kit was on special when I ordered it, didn’t pay anything like that price.
Well - I didn't want to ask. 2K USD is not a small investment. I wouldn't call it extreme for a quality helicopter and engine but it's not a purchase I would make without thought.

"Well, Nothing bad can happen now."

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-15-2018 10:20 PM  5 months agoPost 14
jbjones

rrVeteran

Columbus, Mississippi

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Olorin5
A few more photos of the start of the build, no loctite yet just seeing how everything goes together.
Looking FINE! Thanks for the update. Keep 'em coming!

J. B. Jones

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
WATCH
 1 page 472 views POST REPLY
HomeAircraftHelicopterKyosho Caliber/Quest Neo-Caliber series › Neo-Caliber ZG build
 Print TOPIC  Make Suggestion 

 5  Topic Subscribe

Saturday, September 22 - 10:34 pm - Copyright © 2000-2018 RunRyder   EMAILEnable Cookies

The RC discussion world needs to consolidate. RR is now one choice for that. Its software is cutting edge. It hosts on-topic advertising. Help RR increase traffic buy making suggestions, posting in RR's new areas (sites) and by spreading the word.

The RunRyder Difference

• Category system to allow Rep/Vendor postings.
• Classifieds with sold (hidden) category.
• Classifieds with separate view new.
• Answer PMs offsite via email reply.
• Member gallery photos with advanced scripting.
• Gallery photo viewer integrated into postings.
• Highly refined search with advanced back end.
• Hosts its own high end fast response servers.
• Hosts thousands of HD event coverage videos.
• Rewrote entire code base with latest technology.
• No off-topic (annoying) click bait advertising.
Login Here
 New Subscriptions 
 Buddies Online