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01-17-2018 07:11 PM  9 months agoPost 121
outhouse

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The land didnt do that... no place on earth would be a crap hole if people didnt exist. All the $hitholes around the world were made that way cause the people made it so.
Think about this gem.

If you don't think people are still animals, go to just about any third world country.

We treat our pets better then they are treated as humans.

If we treated are dogs the way their governments treat their people, we would be put in jail.

But hey! everyone keep this to yourself and never tell the truth to anyone in public. The democratic creed

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01-17-2018 07:33 PM  9 months agoPost 122
RM3

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go to just about any third world country.
you dont have to leave the country to see what "Culture" has done to the real estate...

Detroit:

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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01-17-2018 07:47 PM  9 months agoPost 123
outhouse

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you dont have to leave the country
Oh I do agree 100%

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01-18-2018 08:24 PM  9 months agoPost 124
abyzzfan

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Smell Test...
Some of you leave some pretty sketchy posts about race and a few of you have leave some posts that are obviously racist yet no one here will claim the title of being a racist. You all retort adamantly that you are not bigoted or racist (as does Trump).
Trump is not - and never had been - a racist. That is a fact. If you don't like that fact, that's your problem - not anyone else's.

I suppose it's easy for you to call him a racist in regards what he said, but thinking about it a little longer you will see that he was not racist at all in his comments.

Also, contrary to the general media propaganda, Trump has NEVER sexually assaulted anyone, and certainly the video "evidence" that the MSM use to prove their claim has been invalidated by this video (if you care to view it and take in what is being said)

Watch at YouTube

Have you ever gone back and actually read what gets posted here? The claims, the fake stats, the name calling, and the outright nastiness when someone opposes your views.
Actually I do. I put a LOT of thought into them - unlike most people.
Would or could you say these exact words loud and proud at a fun fly, at work, or out in the general public? Answer honestly. I think you all know you couldn't. You are very vocal here because its safe among the like-minded. I hear the same people touting racist ideas as though they are fact...one guy keeps posting the same stat since before Trump was elected. That must of been the only one that stuck in his mind.
I only care for my OWN thinking. What others think is of no consequence to me. You seem to think like a sheep, and the you are bordering on tedious PC virtue signalling.

We have what we call Free Speech, if you have a problem with that go somewhere else. You have the right to say what you want, I have the right to say what I want. If that offends you go away.

The fact that you are trying to call into question anyone's conscience tells me that you want to paint anyone who doesn't agree with what you say as evil or immoral, or "bad".

Let me ask you one thing: What gives you the right to even judge? I suppose you're a paragon of virtue and honesty and knowledge and your life has been blameless?

And yes, I sleep very well at night thanks, because when push comes to shove I can actual back up what I say and what I stand for, instead of constantly trying to shut down other's arguments with appeals to emotions and "hurt" feelings.
A few here are just shy of using racial slurs, but yes, even if you don't say it out loud...you're still a bigot if you say bigoted ideas. But I know none of you would dare talk like you do here outside of your keyboard.
not me . . I do dare - all the time. And if I offend someone I won't apologise. Only in rare cases when I'm proved wrong by irrefutable logic do I apologise.
Have you actually stopped and asked yourself why people read your posts and come to the conclusion that you might be a racist? And having different view points does not one a racist. The slanted statistics, the over generalization of entire groups of people that you don't know anything about and is based on total conjecture, speculation, and misinformation make one a racist.
From your post I don't think you know anything at all about statistics. I do, since I'm mathematically trained and I can deal with them at a very high level.

Since you talk about "over generalisation" you seem to confuse averaging with specifics, which sort of defeats what the point an averaging is all about. And statistics are mostly to offer summarised information of a sample population where taking in EACH individual sample's characteristics would be impossible. To take your case if I take a mostly black population and measured who dark their skin's are (say, from 1 to nearing brown to 10 as nearly black), and come to the average that their colour is brown-black (level 5 say), then that would be a general statistic. There might be a white person in the sample group, but then does this make the statistical result "slanted"? The only way to find out is to look at the data and verify for yourself.

Those countries that Trump called sh$tholes have very low GDP (an average sample statistic), high rates of violent crime (homicides per 100,000 etc. . ), And even outhouse's statistics you can check for yourself (prison inmates percentages etc. . ). And you'll find that he's right.

So your talk about "slanted statistics" is totally dishonest and shameful to say the least.
The smug tone that somehow, you are better than someone else based on trivial ideas that skin color determines one's worth, privilege, and intelligence. Your war cry and notion that somehow "the others" are out to take over is wrong. No one wants to take anything from any of you; only to be treated equally under the same rule of law as you enjoy.
No, you're the one who's smug because you like to paint anyone who doesn't agree with you as a racist or a bigot and you virtue signal about it and it gives you emotional pay off.

To say that blacks commit more crime in proportion to their numbers in the US is NOT racist - it's the truth. Deal with it. (Who knows, with a change in their attitude they might be able to change this statistic around.)

To say that Asians score higher in IQ tests that whites is also not racist. It's the truth. Deal with it.

To say that the White Man has been more influential: intellectually and technologically that any other "race", as you like to call it, in the history of humanity so far is also the truth. Deal with it.

These are facts. If you wish to dispute them, you may, no one is going to stand in your way or prevent you. But you're on a fool's errand, because they are the truth whether you like it or not.

I never gave a damn about anyone's skin colour. People are not "worried" that such people are about to take over in the sense of being dominated. They are worried that such corrosive influences will destroy the very fabric that makes a country great.

Islam is a classic example. It should be oppose and removed from the West. It has not place in the West. That is not racist - that's just fact. For you to understand why that is you just have to do the work and see for yourself, but that involved really intellectual effort. Something that you don't seem to want to do, instead just gloss over superficially anything you don't agree with a label it "racist".
I love hanging out here at RR and even some debates are fine, but more and more threads on this site read more like those on a hate site...just look at the most of the threads in this topic section.
This question is for Mark. Just ask yourself if you were coming to this site for the first time and reading topics here...what would you think? Would this threads draw in or scare new members away? How about international sponsors? This site used to focus more on helicopters now it seems to be a sounding board for racist ideas and comments.
And who's to say that you "speak" for everyone? Who are you to say that you know how people feel? Or that they even share your "views"? You can't speak for everyone, and you certainly don't speak for me.

And again, if you don't like the discussion here, you can go somewhere else in the forum, no on is forcing you to participate.
If I over heard some of the garbage that get said here from any of you at a fun fly event I would make sure to avoid you and some of you might be reported or at a minimum I would have to pack up and find another flying site out of fear for my safety.
Just an observation...take it how you will...
Under this veil of politeness lies something else. . .

But again what makes you think you're right? And who decides that for you? Maybe you're wrong and those around you are right? Do you even have that level of introspection to see that or does being "smug" at your own moral superiority make you think the way you do?

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01-18-2018 08:33 PM  9 months agoPost 125
abyzzfan

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I am a white guy, I am a minority among my american brothers mostly of hispanics and blacks. Have no issues speaking among my brothers in various flavors. You can't label me a racist. You can try, I'll slap you down everytime. With confident, I can talk about these issues and express facts with truths. My hispanics/black brothers agree with me that Obama was the biggest bigot racist to ever take the Office of President. People are waking up to the Democrat attack line.
InvertedDude, absolutely.

For me Obama was totally ineffective as a president. He was the token black guy that served the liberal left's agenda. He certainly had not real merit as a president at all.

OK, he wasn't as bad a Bush.

But I'll never forgive Obama for being the idiot that he was. His most grave mistake was to order the troops out in Iraq when the US and the coalition forces were on the point of wiping any insurgents out completely. Instead that decision caused so much pain and misery to all those involved. The rise of ISIS was because he made that decision - and for that I will NEVER forgive him.

And no doubt LadyMagic would scream racist at me, but I don't give a damn that he's black, Obama's a piece of $hit for making that decision that cost the lives of hundreds of thousands and inflicted some of the worse terrorist atrocities that we've ever experienced on Western soil.

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01-18-2018 09:35 PM  9 months agoPost 126
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But I'll never forgive Obama for being the idiot that he was. His most grave mistake was to order the troops out in Iraq when the US and the coalition forces were on the point of wiping any insurgents out completely
sad fact when I was there... we had decent relationships with many Iraqis in terms of contractors and the general public that we interacted with daily.... many of them begged us not to leave. They told us that insurgents were just waiting for us to leave. they knew if we left that the freedom and relative security they had would quickly disappear. Some even feared for their lives knowing they would be targeted for either helping us, doing business with us or even simply have been seen talking to us...

Im almost certain some of them died as a result of us abandoning them the way we did...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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01-19-2018 04:22 AM  9 months agoPost 127
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Watch at YouTube

90% of life is "showing up"

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01-22-2018 03:30 PM  9 months agoPost 128
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Ladymagic... I'm struggling to see your point and you seem to have misinterpreted mine.

Let's go back to the beginning and see where we diverge. The Earth has approximately 196 million square miles of land. It has approximately 7.5 billion people.

Can we agree some places are more desirable to live than others? Can we also agree that the desirability of habitable places on this planet varies WIDELY? In fact some places are near Shanghai-La and others are veritable "****holes". At this point I will concede that ****hole is a divisive word and likely a barrier to conversion. Still, it accurately describes some really rotten places to live.

If I name 10 places that I think are garden spots to live and 10 places I wouldn't go to without armed escort, I believe you will judge me as a racist (for reasons not clear to me). So instead, you name 10 of the worst spots on the planet. Name 10 places you would NOT want to raise kids. And then name 10 places you would move to without giving it a thought. I will leave it to you to judge what is desirable about a place and what is unacceptable.

Best Places:
1.
2.
3.
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Worst Places:
1.
2.
3.
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Another exercise to explore where we may differ... There are approximately 9 continents on planet Earth (it depends on how you count land masses). For the sake of argument lets settle on 9.
They are in no particular order:
1. Europe
2. Middle East
3. Asia
4. South East Asia
5. Australia
6. South America
7. North America
8. Central Asia
9. Africa

Please put these in order of where you would like to move your family. If you and your loved ones were forced to submit a wish list to the PIC (People In Charge) in the order of where you had to move for the rest of your life, what order would you put them in? If you could finish these sentences, how would they end?:
-- Please let it be_____.
-- Dear God, please not____.

I've included the link below for how these continents are roughly placed.

I have a rough idea of how I would answer the above questions but I need to hear yours first.

Having answered the above questions we may have a better understanding of why you think I'm a racist and you are not.

http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/continents.htm
Which way did she go ........ her silence is deafening!!!!

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01-22-2018 05:21 PM  9 months agoPost 129
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Which way did she go ........ her silence is deafening!!!!
...and ignorance is bliss.

Aside from a few, it is impossible to reason a lot of people here. I'm officially bored of all these moronic statements.

Mellisa

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01-22-2018 06:03 PM  9 months agoPost 130
outhouse

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I'm officially bored
no, you do not have ability to debate or defend the topic so you run

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01-22-2018 06:58 PM  9 months agoPost 131
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No you, specifically, are exhausting....like debating philosophy with a soggy bowl of cheerios.

Mellisa

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01-22-2018 07:02 PM  9 months agoPost 132
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...and ignorance is bliss.
Aside from a few, it is impossible to reason a lot of people here. I'm officially bored of all these moronic statements.
You can't be reasoned with, because you think with your feelings and not your head.

And if you dare call me a moron I'll wipe the floor with you.

This video shows another idiot liberal trying to take on someone who knows what's what and she went down in flames:

Watch at YouTube

The reaction was so bad that Channel 4 had to call security because Cathy Newman was getting threats from social media from feminists and other retarded liberals because they felt she was a traitor to their cause never for a moment realising that they were the retarded getting owned.

Who's the moron now?

And if that offends you, go somewhere else, and take your tedious sanctimony with you.

And if anyone else cries offence you will note that you used the word moronic first, so don't be surprised that that offence is thrown back at you - where it belongs.

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01-22-2018 07:06 PM  9 months agoPost 133
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No you, specifically, are exhausting....like debating philosophy with a soggy bowl of cheerios.
You don't have the brains to understand what the word "philosophy" means, and it's ramifications thereof.

I mean, you do realise that Newton was a "Natural Philosopher"? And Darwin too? The man whose name is forever associated with issues in regards race and natural selection?

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01-22-2018 07:15 PM  9 months agoPost 134
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And if you dare call me a moron I'll wipe the floor with you.
Is that a threat? Be careful.

No one called you a moron. In fact, I've never addressed you specifically until now...there is reason for that.

I have stepped out of the conversation so you all can have your "high fives" and "good game" booty smacks that make you feel good. So don't tell me where I can and can't post. If you don't want me to post here keep my name out of your mouth.

Mellisa

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01-22-2018 07:23 PM  9 months agoPost 135
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You don't have the brains to understand what the word "philosophy" means, and it's ramifications thereof.
You have two options....you can go about your conversation with your friends or you can keep insulting me.

I'm being patient, but I suggest you quit while you're ahead. I know I shouldn't even acknowledge you at all because I personally do not like you....and that goes beyond witty banter during a spirited debate.

But you are free to speak your mind....but I recommend you leave me out of your mouth.

Mellisa

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01-22-2018 07:24 PM  9 months agoPost 136
RM3

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Lady...
You'd catch less incoming if you'd be honest with the question that was asked of you and you answered truthfully...

in a political discussion things get ugly when one side ignores the others questions relevant to the issues at hand and instead deflects or attempts to change the question.

this is no different than a pack of wolves seeing weakness amoung a fellow wolf... you either defend your position (in our case with facts and honesty) or you get tore up...

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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01-22-2018 07:26 PM  9 months agoPost 137
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You don't have the brains to understand what the word "philosophy" means
Unnecessary insulting. Your brain power is relative.

Two wrongs don't make it right.

Mark Ryder

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01-22-2018 07:33 PM  9 months agoPost 138
Ladymagic

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Lady...
You'd catch less incoming if you'd be honest with the question that was asked of you and you answered truthfully...

in a political discussion things get ugly when one side ignores the others questions relevant to the issues at hand and instead deflects or attempts to change the question.

this is no different than a pack of wolves seeing weakness amoung a fellow wolf... you either defend your position (in our case with facts and honesty) or you get tore up...
Fair enough. And to be honest, I would respond....to the debate. Personally attacking me is not really necessary.

Like I said, I enjoy the back and forth, even in a heated debate. But, I know when to back out. There's no way I could have a reasonable debate based on some of the comments...excluding a few of course. But, I choose to sit back and read what people have to say and I weigh it against what I know and if it's worthy of a response, I'm game. But no, I'm not running.

Mellisa

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01-22-2018 07:58 PM  9 months agoPost 139
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Unnecessary insulting. Your brain power is relative.
Two wrongs don't make it right.
Sorry, that is not so . . .

Proof: compare Newton with the average university student.

And if there is a "relative" function, this will, in effect, produce a hierarchy as a result of that relative measure application. And you don't need me to tell you what the consequences of that are.

What you are trying to do is group think, and stifle individuality in the sense that all opinions and thinking are of equal value. That is not so at all since the natural order of things is determined by reality - the reality we all live in. I do not wish to debate metaphysical issues with anyone at the moment.

If I recall correctly there was a meeting in 1921, or thereabouts, of the Royal Society which were discussing the results of a recent expedition that vindicated Einstein's Theory of Relativity. The eminent astronomer Oliver Lodge walked out of that meeting since he could not accept the results. Later on he had to accept and admit he was wrong in his views. . . .

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01-22-2018 08:05 PM  9 months agoPost 140
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sad fact when I was there... we had decent relationships with many Iraqis in terms of contractors and the general public that we interacted with daily.... many of them begged us not to leave. They told us that insurgents were just waiting for us to leave. they knew if we left that the freedom and relative security they had would quickly disappear. Some even feared for their lives knowing they would be targeted for either helping us, doing business with us or even simply have been seen talking to us...
Im almost certain some of them died as a result of us abandoning them the way we did...
You know, RM3, I should thank you for telling me your experiences on the ground at that time, and I'm sorry that you had to go through the things you did.

And if anyone is reading this, I came to my own conclusions and did my OWN thinking, and RM3 acknowledge what I inferred from what I was seeing. It still isn't a good feeling knowing that you are right in your judgement and the realising that hundreds of thousands paid with their lives for the mess that our incompetent leaders made.

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