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12-31-2017 09:29 PM  8 months agoPost 1
payne1967

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Does anyone know if you can retrofit the v2 turbulence clutch into a V1 turbulence chassis/drivetrain?
if it can be done what parts are needed to complete the task?
my reason for asking is I wish to remove the plastic start coupling that has sometimes failed on my v1 and the v2 looks to have the Freya/sdx start system

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12-31-2017 10:06 PM  8 months agoPost 2
PaulBowen

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I’ve just had a look at the instructions and without being able to take measurements comparing a Freya clutch and start shaft with a D3v1 it does look like it may be possible. Best bet would be to see if you can buy a second hand Freya clutch to avoid spending too much if it doesn’t work. I assume the D3 fan/flywheel and cluch bell would remain. The V2 flywheel can’t really be used as it is designed for a short crankshaft.

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12-31-2017 11:22 PM  8 months agoPost 3
payne1967

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Thanks for your help Paul

I've also been looking
the v1 flywheel 0414-313 is the option for a std crank 90 motor on the v2
the v2 bell is an 11 tooth Freya Evo item so I could use a Freya 12t bell
0414-178 if needed to keep the v1 gear ratio the same as its set up well and flies great at the moment
the clutch shoe on the v2 is 0414-307 and the Freya evo
0414-162 on the Freya 90 that I have and the x spec, which is in stock at my local model shop so I'll get one and try it
if it doesn't work at least I will have a spare for the Freya

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12-31-2017 11:50 PM  8 months agoPost 4
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Perfect, happy new year payne1967

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12-31-2017 11:55 PM  8 months agoPost 5
payne1967

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Happy New Year Paul

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01-05-2018 07:52 PM  8 months agoPost 6
payne1967

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The good news is the parts turned up nice and quickly
the not so good news is the Freya clutch bell isn't deep enough and the pinion is too short for the v1 turbulence
the start shaft is also too short the go through the bearing holders in the v1 turbulence
at least I have a spare clutch for my Freya and the option to alter the other Freya I have to run a 90 motor in place of the OS60 if I wish to

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01-06-2018 02:58 AM  8 months agoPost 7
Felino

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Do not give up.
The Freya clutch comes with a pressed in start shaft but it is not imposible to remove as long as you have the needed tools.
A press, or hydraulic jack, a tube long enough to support the clutch through the start shaft(upsidedown) two 10mm one way sleeves will work
and a shaft/rod or screw that is 4mm diameter to push down the start shaft will get the job done. If you get the hardware stated here then it will be just a matter of finding some one that has a press to push the start shaft out and then mount the long V1 shaft.
Do not forget to clean the clutch and shaft with acetone, or carb cleaner, and then soak the parts with some red loctite before mounting back the start shaft.

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01-06-2018 03:01 AM  8 months agoPost 8
Felino

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If you manage to mount the long V1 shaft in the Freya clutch then you will be able to use the Turbulence pinion and clutch bell.

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01-06-2018 07:53 PM  8 months agoPost 9
payne1967

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I haven't given up
at the moment I'm in-able to get to my lathe and press as the workshop is blocked up
I am exploring another option of making a metal drive to replace the plastic one on the V1 turbulence
although I'm going to try and see if the v2 turbulence/Freya evo clutch has a long enough start shaft to use

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01-07-2018 01:03 AM  8 months agoPost 10
Felino

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Great to know that you actually have press at home.
It makes things much easier. Some time ago I thought about getting a turbulence V1 (it was cheap) but I didn´t because I knew the clutch plastic coupling is a nightmare so the idea of using the Freya clutch can fix this issue.
Making a metal coupling also seems intersting for someone with a lathe at home.

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01-13-2018 11:18 AM  8 months agoPost 11
PaulBowen

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Although I don’t own a V1 Turbulence I thought the plastic coupling was only a problem with Align starters? I was under the impression it wasn’t a problem with Sullivan starters.

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01-13-2018 06:59 PM  8 months agoPost 12
payne1967

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with a lot of use the plastic coupling does wear and if you have the odd hydro lock or two then it wears even more
I can feel the peg trying to jump over the plastic when starting and after seeing the v2 start system the grey matter started to work overtime to see if the v1 could be altered to the v2 system

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01-13-2018 09:00 PM  8 months agoPost 13
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Yeah fair enough. I’m not really sure what led them to the V1 system when the Freya system worked perfectly tombegin with.

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