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12-19-2017 08:36 PM  9 months agoPost 41
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outhouse be like:
islams problem is living their religion and lack of moderations. Refusing reality in favor of a false religious reality.

Just like our uneducated friend above.

Nothing wrong with religion used in moderation.

Everything is wrong when one is dishonest with oneself when placing religion over common knowledge in science and history.

I lecture these topics at a college as a guest speaker, religion NEVER replaces a real education.

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12-20-2017 08:07 PM  9 months agoPost 42
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islams problem is living their religion and lack of moderations. Refusing reality in favor of a false religious reality.

Just like our uneducated friend above.
In Fairview's defence I can at least say I don't care about his faith, I can insult it in various ways and I won't have to fear for my life in doing so.
Nothing wrong with religion used in moderation.
I don't care about anyone's "faith" - they can do it in private. But if it has political ramifications or compromises my own freedom to think my own thoughts then such person can leave the Western World and don't come back.

Islam's problem is its inherent supremacist streak. Because the word "Sharia" means God, when these idiots see the word "Sharia" it means that it automatically overrides the law of the land. And a fair portion of muslims do put their faith ABOVE the law.

There is no such thing as radical islam. They are either following their faith or not - there is no middle way. All those peaceful verses in the koran are subject to abrogation, and that's what gives divine legitimacy of jihad for these people to follow if they wish to go on that path. The furthering of the faith by whatever means (even by killing innocents) is completely justified according to all the interpretations that the islamic scholars give. And those are the people who have dedicated their lives to the retarded study of all this crap that islam has produced.

So knowing the above why should we in the West have muslims in our society? It's best they go away and live in a country more suited to their own sensibilities and beliefs and talk retarded rubbish amongst themselves.

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12-20-2017 09:49 PM  9 months agoPost 43
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So knowing the above why should we in the West have muslims in our society?
well simply put the Authors of the constitution got tired of Crown telling them how to live and how to worship... so to fix that they added freedom of religion...

the problem was they never considered that other "religions" were hostile to other faiths...

And therein lies the problem. The west wants freedom for practically everything... but that freedom also allows others outside of it to take advantage and to subdue it from within by using its own emotions, rules and fears against it.

So you either have freedom or you dont. And quite honestly nearly every problem we have had that has lead to conflict has come about due to religious and political dogma...

seems we need to do away with those two things if we ever want to experience true peace and the freedom it implies.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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12-20-2017 11:36 PM  9 months agoPost 44
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I can insult it in various ways and I won't have to fear for my life in doing so.
Agreed. Christian fanaticism and fundamentalism are not as violent as islam always is. The levels are both high, just one is more primitive and prone tp violence due to their animal like cultures.

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12-20-2017 11:38 PM  9 months agoPost 45
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There is no such thing as radical islam.
Agreed, they are all radical.

Its like saying there is such a thing as moderate YEC. You are either a nut job or your not.

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12-20-2017 11:46 PM  9 months agoPost 46
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So you either have freedom or you dont
That's not up for debate. Nor the problem.

The problem is nutty azz uneducated morons that place mythology before knowledge.

When you take these primitive monkeys living mythology and worse, running their country with mythology and running laws with mythology, you get primitive results.

FACT is islam was never been at peace since its origin, it has always been fighting and warring over mythological interpretations and differences alone. Let alone political differences.

No other religion has ever committed so much genocide

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12-21-2017 02:08 AM  9 months agoPost 47
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Thank you Outhouse. I read that post and was ready to post a reply similar to yours. You saved me some typing. I think that if most people were made to honestly study their religion, they would find that it makes no sense.

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12-21-2017 03:06 AM  9 months agoPost 48
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well it actually does make sense... if you know what its true purpose is...

religions' sole purpose is for control, enforced though either fear or indoctrination... overriding logic and evidence.

this is how a few manage to control tens of thousands and reap the rewards... in a way its like a pyramid scheme...

typical of most religious leaders:

Watch at YouTube

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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12-21-2017 05:04 AM  9 months agoPost 49
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religions' sole purpose is for control, enforced though either fear or indoctrination... overriding logic and evidence.
Not true.

Its origins were just human nature and belief based on ignorance.

Christianity was never created to control or enforce anything, in its day they were called atheist and hunted down, they were persecuted for not worshipping the Emperor.

Yes later political powers used it in many perverted ways.

They did not use logic because they did not know what we did, hell these people literally thought good and bad spirits controlled your thoughts. They were afraid of the dark they were so ingrained in fear of what they did not know. Death was apart of life and it surrounded these primitive people.

Judaism was just an evolution of Canaanite religions.

Islam, was born of sword and bloodshed by violent primitive tribal scumbags, but they were this way before this new version [monotheism] took hold.

fact is, the world is growing around these primitive religions where freedom lets knowledge reign. islam has no freedom and the brainwashing so deep, they are doomed as the world grows away from their primitive uneducated violent lives.

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12-21-2017 05:10 AM  9 months agoPost 50
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Thank you Outhouse. I read that post and was ready to post a reply similar to yours. You saved me some typing. I think that if most people were made to honestly study their religion, they would find that it makes no sense.
With education, we see exactly how man created and evolved the Abrahamic concept of monotheism, by compiling 2 deities into one, by textual redaction. The main reason it happened though was that the people belonged to multiple Israelite cultures that had multiple beliefs. When they were beat down in war, their captors wanted them to have a unified belief before letting them go back to Israel from Babylon. Even so, monotheism was not fully set in until 200-400 BCE, when they were again beat down by other more powerful cultures. Monotheism evolved over a long time starting with King Josiahs reforms after 622 BCE. despote major redaction to religious text, they people themselves took much longer.

Early on El and Yahweh were two separate deities, and as early as 800 BCE we see some cultures giving Els attributes and wife to Yahweh. Originally El was the father deity and Yahweh his son and his brother Baal. The mother deity and wife was Asherah. First Els wife then later Yawheh.

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12-21-2017 12:16 PM  9 months agoPost 51
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Early on El and Yahweh were two separate deities, and as early as 800 BCE we see some cultures giving Els attributes and wife to Yahweh. Originally El was the father deity and Yahweh his son and his brother Baal. The mother deity and wife was Asherah. First Els wife then later Yawheh.
I long suspected this. Human beings aren't particularly imaginative are they? They just took what they knew from their surroundings and created stories and myths and all sorts of silliness. Some of it is quite nice to read but that's as far as it goes for me.
FACT is islam was never been at peace since its origin, it has always been fighting and warring over mythological interpretations and differences alone. Let alone political differences.

No other religion has ever committed so much genocide
islam can't live in the modern world because the modern world would steamroller over its retarded claims.

all they have left is the unfalsifiable crap that is either open to interpretation or is contentious at best. In some respects they know what they want (sunnis anyway since they are the REAL muslims according to standard scholarship): A Caliphate. But the Saudi's don't want a Caliphate, nor do the countries surrounding Iraq and Syria. They are quite happy with a monarchy but that's ultimately against what islam is about.

You got to ask yourselves, despite the atrocities that ISIS, the Taliban, al-qaede have committed, how were they EVEN allowed to do what they did? And the answer is simple: they had SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT from the local population!!!! That alone should tell you that there is something amiss when you see muslims in the west denouncing ISIS and any of the other terror groups saying they don't represent islam.

The propensity for violence and savagery is already there in islam. The Saudis bypass this by paying off their imans and theological scholars in censoring their messages to those who attend the mosque. Now that the house of Saud wants to be part of the Western world they know they have to watch their step because if they don't have the support of the theologians the tide can turn that would mean their brutal demise - and it can happen very quickly.

It takes some learning for us in the West to realise that these devote followers of islam cannot, in ANY WAY, be reasoned with. And if they try to impose too much on us we are left with no choice but to wipe them out in whatever way possible. If what I say is inflammatory then so be it but it's just the cold hard truth.

You only have to look to see muslims in the West blaming Western governments for interfering with the middle east and all that crap (and some of it has merit which I will not deny in the interests of fairness). They play the victim card all the time. ISIS sympathisers are saying that since muslims are being bombed they have the right to bomb us, BUT for some strange reason they never seem to see the connection that ISIS being bombed was at the behest of the Saudis (their OWN muslims brothers!!) because they want ISIS stopped (along with the Russians and the Assad Regime and a whole lot of other factions). These idiots don't seem to understand that we don't give a sh$t about their religion - we're just following our own self interests as to what's best for our country: either it's over resources or geopolitics etc. . .

In regards to the issue of the Jews I was not surprised when I heard of the atrocities that Israel committed because I see it as an effect of being surrounded by monsters. It's just human nature. If you want to survive you have to become the aggressor and the monster yourself if you are constantly being put upon by the savages around you.

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12-21-2017 06:09 PM  9 months agoPost 52
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Many Jews are just as bad. Orthodox jews are all primitive garbage. If you ever debated with them, they gang up on different ideas like a flock of birds eating seed in a public square, whether they are right or wrong.

Islam yes IO agree with your take in full, I have yet to meet a single muslim who is honest and I have never met one that does not pervert reason and logic on a daily basis.

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12-21-2017 08:12 PM  9 months agoPost 53
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Many Jews are just as bad. Orthodox jews are all primitive garbage. If you ever debated with them, they gang up on different ideas like a flock of birds eating seed in a public square, whether they are right or wrong.
That's just human nature. Not all ideologies are the same or behave in the same way. They all create different cultural norms and codes of behaviour and some are more accepting of (or rather more compatible with) Western society than others.

What I find comical with muslims themselves is that they are THAT retarded in regards where they are in relation to the Jews. I can sort of understand anti-semitism now since, let's be honest here, the Jews ARE that intellectually brilliant when compared to ANY muslim country. Even better, the Jews are just that much superior mentally to the rest of humanity. That's not a matter of opinion - that's just facts. The rampant anti-semitism in the koran is nothing more than plain envy . .
Islam yes IO agree with your take in full, I have yet to meet a single muslim who is honest and I have never met one that does not pervert reason and logic on a daily basis.
because they WANT to live in paradise with God and all that malarky, and they are willing to sacrifice their lives to that end. I am sure their beliefs bring a lot of comfort to them. When they were subservient in the colonial days there wasn't that much trouble with them, but now they are trying to permeate our society and to change it in accordance to their faith and they're going to find that that is NOT going to happen. So the muslims living in the West can only pretend while hiding their grievances behind politeness, or if they are smart enough they would reject their faith but that could put their lives at risk.

In the meantime we're all going to have to play a game of let's pretend with them.

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12-22-2017 04:34 AM  9 months agoPost 54
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How can’t any religion NOT be about control? If a religion has rules, that have consequences, and guidelines that offer rewards... that is the very definition of control.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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12-22-2017 01:06 PM  9 months agoPost 55
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How can’t any religion NOT be about control? If a religion has rules, that have consequences, and guidelines that offer rewards... that is the very definition of control.
From a simplistic bystander point of view that may well be the case as stated repeatedly by many individuals I talk to. It's a common consensus posited by nearly everyone as a standard response to the concept of religion.

BUT what you miss out is that for the followers of such religion (especially islam) THIS IS THEIR LIFE!!! From what I read Mohammed probably DID believe he was a divine messenger, and his rules and words were divinely ordained - what does one say to such claims? You also seem to forgot that some religions don't have "concrete" rules. The concept of Dharma in Hinduism for instance is used to override other rules, just like jihad is an excuse to abrogate all other values in islam. Also rulers who implement Sharia have to follow it's tenets or else the populace will rebel and remove them from power. So the religion can be controlling on the ones who use it. Nothing is ever clear cut at all in these matters.

Add to this in the case of islam the scholars wield a lot of power and can sway the followers as long as their arguments are sound and we have a mess!!! These are really seriously devote theologians who see themselves as the gatekeepers and maintainers of the tradition, they don't think about control, their aim is to ensure that God's message is adhered to and followed and anyone who does not is properly dealt with etc. . . A whole school of islamic jurisprudence has been built up from all this alone . . .

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12-22-2017 09:52 PM  9 months agoPost 56
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How can’t any religion NOT be about control? If a religion has rules, that have consequences, and guidelines that offer rewards...
Religion is a set of mythical beliefs, it is not about political control in its ideology

Again Christianity started as a cult looked at as atheist. It started as a way for the common man to have a direct connection with god through his son, even if you did not have enough money top pay at the temple for doves or livestock to be sacrificed.

It was the working mans religion in origin, it had ZERO to do with control.

As I already stated and you ignored, yes political powers monopolize on the followers more and less in different time periods.

The UNITED STATES was founded on freedom from religion and freedom to go in your own religious direction, it does not mean some politicians did not pervert it and use it for control.

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12-24-2017 10:54 AM  9 months agoPost 57
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A fool in his own heart says there is no God, just saying. Merry CHRIST-mas.

Got to have my cup of heli in the morning.

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12-24-2017 01:15 PM  9 months agoPost 58
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A fool in his own heart says there is no God
We have been asking for evidence of any god for 2,000 years. You have yet to provide anything but insults.

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12-24-2017 01:57 PM  9 months agoPost 59
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We have been asking for evidence of any god for 2,000 years.
Question : Do you love your mother ( or whoever for that matter)?

If you answer Yes please prove it................

Merry Christmas

Mike

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12-24-2017 02:09 PM  9 months agoPost 60
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You are deflecting. You are worshiping a book.
Love is an emotion. Is god an emotion?

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