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11-17-2017 07:33 PM  26 months ago
dave evo

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MD thats is fantastic bud, your not far from me mate I,m in Morecambe and fly a flex wing microlight from south Lancaster (Cockerham) farm strip often flying through Warton military air space on radio as i dont want a typhoon shooting me down lol, if you flew ur heli in there they would love it i bet ..aeroplanes fly gracefully,helicopters just beat physics to death ;-)
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11-18-2017 03:54 AM  26 months ago
FenderBean

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My point was the lack of available kits produced, very few places to get scale helicopters and there are certain helicopters you cannot find because they are not even made. The size of the community doesn't concern me, its the option and ability to find what I want is all. plus the tech isnt coming along like other areas of the hobby. Just my two cents, I have been in helicopters since the Kyosho Concept days, my first scale heli was the bell 206 scale body for my concept 30SE https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE_rywpdgBAxA8bHVCw3VQQ
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11-18-2017 04:06 AM  26 months ago
TailKiller

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Sorry about us getting off topic man. Some time we get carried away.Dennis
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11-18-2017 04:33 AM  26 months ago
Copter Doctor

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Kieth, I know what you are getting at. most of the time that you see that one or two helis that aren't popular its because its either scratch built or made from a modified kit. that's what special about us heli scalers, there are a few of us that wont let unavailability stop us. we have a golden child in our midst right now who is building what is probably the first ever Sikorsky S67 rc heli ever built. he is building it from the ground up. There are several of us that don't or wont go to the shelves to get even what is available, but rather build or craft it ourselves. Maybe that habbit comes from not having availability commercially, at least I know it is for me.
like mentioned, the scale heli community compared to fixed wing and even the turbine powered aircraft community is way smaller which means the demand is probably not as high resulting in less availability or options for scale stuff.
drive a rotary, fly a rotorcraft
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11-18-2017 09:22 AM  26 months ago
dgoss999

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I agree with what the Doc suggested.. There never was a 'kit' as such for a scale Heli. . The old schluters and kavans were the closest you got.. I am convinced now with the 'fly it like you stole it' menality, there is little interest in taking the time to fabricate a Scale wonder.. Only a select few will go the distance!

DG
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11-18-2017 03:18 PM  26 months ago
Copter Doctor

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DG you are so right, the old school of fabricating it yourself and being a craftsman is slowly fading away. todays generation is one of very skillful pilots but not builders. I see that in the turbine jets and helis. vario has been around since old school days that's when you had the option of customizing your machine with whatever system you wanted for power n control and that's why vario has all their stuff sold individually. they have come forward into todays generation by offering fuses to fit the popular trex 700 so no mods to do but detailing is still there for the modeler who enjoys doing the work.
Funkey does the same by making their fuses ore of a universal fit for most mechs with little to a few mods.
Roban is a new company that goes for what the new generation of modelers want, buy it and fly it, but still leave some room for more detailing if you wish.
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11-18-2017 04:06 PM  26 months ago
TailKiller

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I'm actually starting my first builders kit so to speak. It's a Century 700 JR kit. Unfinished, unpainted for as much details as i want. All wood work I need to build, no pre cut wood sheets, using a 3 bearing Align 600CF frame stretched to 700. Doing the same for Jim's 600 OH-58. Metal fab's are a little out of reach but I'm not giving up. I wish I had started years ago but I still have time to learn.Dennis
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11-18-2017 04:43 PM  26 months ago
MDSCUSTOMS

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In reply to CopterDoctor's post.

Re the S67, it won't be the first one ever built, this one is in one of my books - Radio Control Helicopters by Wil Snitjer. The book was first printed in 1981 so this model was built some time ago.

Still a very impressive subject nonetheless and one that is rarely modelled.

Mark

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11-18-2017 05:41 PM  26 months ago
Copter Doctor

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wow! I stand corrected, I was barely getting into the loop of rc back then
The old schooler in me still wishes that roban would make their fuselages available without mechanics. I bought the super scale Astar and the only thing still roban on it is pretty much the fuselage and its been modified a bunch
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11-18-2017 10:46 PM  26 months ago
Grimracer

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sorry if I am responsible for running the train off the track here. Not my intent.

Scale helis are quite the deal for sure. I have yet to find more then a few "scale" parts that fit my needs. Its not that some of them are not out there but most of the parts don't match my needs. As for mechanics.. there is no real wrong way to do that. Most of us to look for extra tail speed however as our lower head speeds and multiple blades require more tail authority. Vairo has that figured out well so that's a plus regarding their product. Also..I used a Century tail box on my EC-145 as it is over driven a tad. Century did a nice job with this too.

Yea.. when it comes to scale helis it pays to be dedicated.. or just a tick nutty.. LiKe Me..

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11-19-2017 01:55 AM  26 months ago
jbewley

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Dennis, I told you I will be happy to detail it for you. You have sure helped me a lot.

Jim
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11-19-2017 04:47 AM  26 months ago
sean911sc

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I ask myself the question, "If I add this detail what other(s) one need to added as a result?"William S Harris
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11-19-2017 05:06 AM  26 months ago
TailKiller

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Not to worry Jim. I'll be sending it to you when it's ready.Dennis
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12-12-2017 04:43 AM  25 months ago
Joel Rosenzweig

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I think that the scale helicopter segment of the R/C hobby is quite small relative to other aspects of the community at large because the diversity of skills required to build, fly and maintain such an amazing machine is quite significant and rare. And of course, some of these machines have significant cost, too. This presents a very large barrier to entry.

If we want the hobby to thrive, we need to continue to expose people to the joys of the hobby. It will resonate with a select few who see its value and will then choose to join us. It would also be healthy for all of us to support the manufacturers who supply us with kits and parts, and the hobby stores that carry them. If we want more items to be made available, there has to be a demonstrated need. If we don't purchase the products available, provide feedback, participate in public displays, or otherwise be part of the community, then there is less incentive for others to support us.

I don't think that a hobby that is as complex as this one will ever appeal to the population at large. Though, as a community, we can take care to keep it going and inspire others to join us by being a great community that welcomes newcomers, shares what we know, and encourages others to aim high.

Joel
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12-12-2017 05:50 PM  25 months ago
jimm

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Does anyone even import the Funky bodies into the states anymore? Century/Heli-World no longer has them.

Know you can get them off of eBay from overseas.
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12-12-2017 05:58 PM  25 months ago
TailKiller

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Jettechmodels.com but they are in China also.Dennis
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12-12-2017 06:36 PM  25 months ago
ssmith512

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jimm Does anyone even import the Funky bodies into the states anymore? Century/Heli-World no longer has them.
From another thread...

Yes as Emile said,all the Century fuselages that we’re made by FunKey are still available through Leisure-Tech in Canada. Just e-mail me at orders@leisuretech.ca
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12-30-2017 08:10 PM  25 months ago
Dr.Tim

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http://www.Approachengineering.com is still here! It's paid for so I will never go out of business .. 100% made in the USA ...From Simple minds come simple ideas! Approach Engineering
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12-30-2017 10:24 PM  25 months ago
Sidneyw

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I think that the scale helicopter segment of the R/C hobby is quite small relative to other aspects of the community at large because the diversity of skills required to build........

Yes, it is a very small segment. However, the multi-rotor segment was even smaller back in 2011.

..... expose people to the joys of the hobby. It will resonate with a select few who see its value and will then choose to join us......

Some of "us" are rather or seemed "arrogant" to beginners in the micro and 450 class even in the "Align size 500 class".

It would also be healthy for all of us to support the manufacturers who supply us with kits and parts, and the hobby stores that carry them.....

Same observation to my comment above.

I don't think that a hobby that is as complex as this one will ever appeal to the population at large......
Joel

By making the "products" more appealing to beginners; before they move up to more expensive class. I'd always say the magic number is below $500 for beginner and $1,000 for the next step up. Yet, it must have the current technology. Better flight controllers are here to stay; we might have bad mouthed them in the past. If 3D pilots are using the best e-stab and gyro; there is nothing wrong with Scale pilot using the best avionic. I remember meeting and talking to an older gentleman (think his name is Gyle, sorry if I got it wrong) at IRCHA in 2011. He was so happy with Wookong-H, saying he would not have been able to truly enjoying the hobby otherwise. Some are lucky to be able to build the skill others might not. I have heard and read some talented builders wish they could be better pilots.
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01-08-2018 11:59 PM  24 months ago
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Motion RC will start importing they have a stellar history of customer support and blazing shipping record I have a 500MD 500 size on order expecting a container to arrive end of feb

https://www.motionrc.com/collection...conversion-kits
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