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11-06-2017 01:42 AM  8 months agoPost 1
TG540EDGE

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i am wondering how I can get all 1200 watts from a chargery 1200s into a 4010 duo. Can all three outputs be tied together as one?

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11-06-2017 02:15 AM  8 months agoPost 2
EEngineer

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Not sure what you mean....

Can you explain in more detail?

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11-06-2017 02:31 AM  8 months agoPost 3
TG540EDGE

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I am getting into electrics. I have been out of the hobby for a while and never was very knowledgeable. That being said, i ordered a 4010duo and a power supply this weekend. After I ordered I learned that the 1200s chargery ps is likely not going to get me very far with 6s parallel battery charging. Before I have to return this power supply i wanted to ask questions. It seems, by my understanding, that this ps is 1200watts total between all outputs. It looks like it will not put out all 1200 watts to one channel. Is this correct? If so can i connect my 4010 duo to all three outputs at the same time to use all 1200 watts? What i likely need to do is find a 48v 50a ps.

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11-06-2017 03:07 AM  8 months agoPost 4
Heli Fanatix

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The Chargery PS is 1200 watts total.

if you want to get the 4010 to it's full potential
- you will have to get multiple PS and hook them in series

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11-06-2017 04:06 AM  8 months agoPost 5
EEngineer

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Not to exceed 2 power supplies total....

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11-06-2017 04:08 AM  8 months agoPost 6
Heli Fanatix

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For this iCharger 4010 Duo setup:
- four PS configured together in series giving 48V @ 47A
- providing up to 2300W of power
- This enables to run the 4010 Duo at full capacity
- be able to para-charge twelve 6S 5000 mAh LiPo packs from a 50% storage state to fully charged in under 30 minutes

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11-06-2017 06:15 AM  8 months agoPost 7
EEngineer

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The ps is 12 to 24V....why would one run 4 of them at 12V....instead of just 2?

The max input voltage of the charger is 50V.

Hooking them up in series doesn't increase the amps....just the total voltage.

Hooking in parallel ups the amperage while the voltage stays the same.

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11-06-2017 06:42 AM  8 months agoPost 8
Heli Fanatix

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You have only part of the equation. Dig a lil deeper and you will answer your own question.

FYI
The PS are rated 47A each providing 2300W @ 48V when combined

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11-06-2017 12:47 PM  8 months agoPost 9
Dan Minick

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In case you missed it, your power supply is 1200 watts total. One connection alone will supply 1200, no need to connect multiple.

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11-06-2017 03:25 PM  8 months agoPost 10
EEngineer

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hook them in series
Dig deeper on what?

When you connect two S1200's in series....you DON'T get > 50A of current.

That's a fact of physics.

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11-06-2017 05:52 PM  8 months agoPost 11
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Can i connect all 3 outputs from one s1200 to get all 50a evenly distributed across the terminals? One terminal is only rated for 30a.

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11-06-2017 06:12 PM  8 months agoPost 12
Heli Fanatix

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Let me clarify

The Chargery 1200 will only give you 1200W TOTAL
- no matter what you do
- even if you combine all three terminal

To get full potential of 4010
- need to run 4 separate P/S in series
- voltage: from 12V to 48V
- the P/S I was referring puts out 47A
- now I have 48V @ 47A / 2300W output
- I'm not referring to the using the chargery 1200 since you would have to float the other 3 P/S

* I assume the picture I provided clarifies things.
* There is still a lot of research to do, I was just merely steering in the correct direction

@ eenginner
- when I said. "dig deeper"
- I meant, "look the image I provided"
- does that look like a chargery 1200?
- Those are simple PS we commonly convert to use as PS for our hobby.
- it's the most cost effective way to get 48V @ 47A while using 120V.
- the alternative is 240V PS in the $500 range

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11-06-2017 06:53 PM  8 months agoPost 13
EEngineer

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need to run 4 separate P/S in series
If you ran 4 "in series" at 12V, you would have 48V out at 47A.

I think what you really mean, is to connect 4 of those PS's....two pairs of two in series(48V at 47A) in parallel...so that the total is 48V at 94A...to power the charger to it's limit.

If that's the case, you would have a power supply system that supplies ~4800W.

Look at it like a 2S2P Lipo....if you will....

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11-06-2017 07:03 PM  8 months agoPost 14
TG540EDGE

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It seems that i am unclear. I understand the chargery is 1200 watts total. What i am asking is can i use all the terminals with one charger to use all 50 amps. 24v*50a =1200 watts. If i only use one terminal (rated to 30a max) it is 24v*30a= 720 watts.

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11-06-2017 07:34 PM  8 months agoPost 15
Heli Fanatix

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No mistake engineer
- 4 PS wired in series
- look at the image of the PS output configuration
- goes with what you shared in post 11
- now you are starting to contradicting yourself and confuse the OP

Regarding the chargery terminal.. 30A is your highest output for your PS
- unless you want to open it up and do some hocus pocus (magic) while not releasing the Magic Smoke!
- IMOP .. 30A that is more than plently
- use what you currently got
- upgrade your PS later on
- if anything, get more packs

FYI
I have a PL8 v2 with a 24V 60A with 3 FMA parallel board
- I can charge 18 packs
- All balance at end of charge
- 500mah each
- will be done in 6 hrs
- pulls no more than 10A
- PS runs cool
- Pack last longer ... some packs have well over +1000 cycles
- if this excites you, look into it
- if not, good luck

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11-06-2017 08:24 PM  8 months agoPost 16
TG540EDGE

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I have not contradicted myself. Forget 4 12v ps in series. I understand that is the way to get most out of this charger. My question was about chargery s1200. It is 1200w 50a total. However one terminal will only be 30a max so only 720 watts max using one terminal. I was asking can I safely combine the outputs to get all 24v @50a. Which would be 1200 watts. In “ your opinion 30 amps is plenty. Thats only 720 watts. Maybe i dont fully understand, but 720 watt output into my charger will only handle 5 5000mah 6s packs in parallel at 1c charge rate. (25.4v x 5a is 126 watts needed per pack at 1c). I would need 252 watts per pack at 2c charge so likely only 2 packs in parallel. If i am wrong please explain it to me. I want to understand.

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11-06-2017 10:25 PM  8 months agoPost 17
EEngineer

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If i only use one terminal (rated to 30a max) it is 24v*30a= 720 watts.
http://www.chargery.com/doc/Charger...nual%20V1.0.pdf

Each rated for 25A max.

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11-06-2017 10:27 PM  8 months agoPost 18
EEngineer

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now you are starting to contradicting yourself and confuse the OP
Nope, and I'm not going to argue ohm's law with you.

If you don't know the difference of series versus parallel connection effects, I can't help it.

Believe whatever you want.....

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11-06-2017 11:59 PM  8 months agoPost 19
JuanRodriguez

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I have not contradicted myself
I believe that the comment was directed at eengineer ....

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

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11-07-2017 01:48 AM  8 months agoPost 20
Heli Fanatix

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Thanks Juan
- you are correct

Eengineer
- for the very last time
- look at the image of the PS in post 6, does that look like a chargery PS?
- so when I talk about PS, I'm talking about those PS picture in post 6
- I'm agreeing you with the fact running 4 PS in series gets you 48V @ 47A (look at post 6)

Than you tell me I'm running 2 PS in series, than in parallel
- to which is incorrect (post 13)

Are you OK sir? .... I'm checking myself out.

Can you look past your need to be right and contribute properly?

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