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11-06-2017 10:40 PM  21 months ago
dgoss999

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We got off the subject!

For hair go to Vidal Sassoon...
"Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see." • Benjamin Franklin
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11-06-2017 11:18 PM  21 months ago
Todd74

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Personally, I've found that I have a lot more fun in this hobby if I don't give a $%&# about what everyone else is flying....and if anyone else is flying.

Just take my helis to the field and fly the crap out of 'em.
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11-07-2017 12:00 AM  21 months ago
PaulBowen

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Good point Todd74.Quest NEO Caliber ZG, Zenoah G260PUH, CGY750, Rotortech 810, NHP 115.
JR Propo Ergo 30, OS 32SX-H, Edge 550, Edge 90.
Futaba T18SZ
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11-07-2017 12:41 AM  21 months ago
870heli

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I definitely agree with Todd74. I don't care what anyone fly's. It's just that models change and go away. That's why there are no 30 size heli's anymore. They were a lot of fun. I think I had almost every one that was made. I guess that the 500 size has taken that spot in my fleet.
New heli's will come and some will go but just flying is what it's all abought. I remember when I had 15 nitro's and a 450 T-rex that took a battery. Now I have 15 heli's and only two that don't use a battery.
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11-07-2017 12:58 AM  21 months ago
EEngineer

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But, where is everyone?....Logo 600SXs, 800XX, TDR IIs
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11-07-2017 01:12 AM  21 months ago
870heli

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I think everyone is here. This topic is up to three pages and we are still on the same subject. What could be better.
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11-07-2017 01:46 AM  21 months ago
PaulBowen

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Glow/nitro powered 30’s are great fun in my opinion.

All is not lost as we can still buy;

Hirobo Shuttle
Hirobo SDX
Quest Caliber
Gaui??
Quest NEO Caliber ZG, Zenoah G260PUH, CGY750, Rotortech 810, NHP 115.
JR Propo Ergo 30, OS 32SX-H, Edge 550, Edge 90.
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11-07-2017 01:47 AM  21 months ago
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PaulBowen
I picked up two concept 30's...one was new in box. I flew 5 flights today, awesome experience!
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11-07-2017 01:51 AM  21 months ago
KJH

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Y'all can have your flybarless Gobblers, Legos, Sin-R-Jeez, etc. I lost my hair, but not the flybar.

-Kevin
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11-07-2017 01:54 AM  21 months ago
PaulBowen

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Wow what a lineup!

Concepts are cool to.
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11-07-2017 02:13 AM  21 months ago
KC

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a big reason why I've been out of the hobby is because these have gone from machines with computer radios to just being computers you can buy and fly.

Everything about the hobby is on the backburner now, the challenge has become stringing up fifty different 3d moves at the same time and that's ridiculous even to someone who was around extreme 3d from the beginning.

Once you've spent decades learning how to make an object actually pass through the air as smoothly as the physics and human hand will allow, its kind of offensive to ones sensibilities to have that compared to something running on software.

I picked up a Mavic and its the most boring thing I have ever put in the air, its great for AP but I get my thrills now with 3d planes as all the helis I like are ancient and I ran out of parts

Cool Concepts btw, loved mine
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11-07-2017 02:24 AM  21 months ago
EEngineer

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You guys must be kidding sometimes....

The setup menus on some of these FBL controllers are
completely non-intuitive.

Makes me wanna scream at them sometimes....LOL

Damn computers....
Logo 600SXs, 800XX, TDR IIs
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11-07-2017 02:45 AM  21 months ago
KC

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Good to see you are still around EE...

I like machines, don't like computers between them and me

In the 1990s when I had to pick a major in college, the intro to computer science was C++....it turned me off of computer science for life.

Ironically I majored in math. I appreciate that there are cool new tech toys out there, but my idea of fun is much simpler than people who are alright with computers doing everything and making everything so....like why does a fridge need a f-ing computer?!

Just cruising around doing moderate aeros as smooth as I can with an older high end bird is still the most fun I have had in this hobby to date.
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11-07-2017 03:33 AM  21 months ago
banshee rider

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I see a lot of people posting that there is no challenge with FBL
that anyone can do it and its boring

Is that right ?

So you all are top level competitors in F3C and 3D right !!!

Or is it that your a bunch of old dogs that cant/wont learn how to set a FBL unit

I wanna see some vids from you people that say its not challenging
to fly a FBL heli
ageing is manditory maturity is optional
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11-07-2017 03:38 AM  21 months ago
EEngineer

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the intro to computer science was C++....
C is bad enough.....C++....jeez.....

Although, I became very good at assembly language programming at my job.

Just took some getting used to...

The problem I have is with the FBL user software interface.....and the variety of non-intuitive ways their programmers present the setup menu.

Sure, it's clear to them...they designed it...

Perhaps it's just the manual is written by somebody else....
Logo 600SXs, 800XX, TDR IIs
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11-07-2017 07:06 AM  21 months ago
PaulBowen

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banshee rider I think it’s as simple as this. Most people have no interest in being 3d or F3C pros, with most people being happy flying sport.

Programing an FBL system is unsatisfiying and boring for most people. Hobbies are meant to be interesting, challenging a time consuming. Electronic systems replacing mechanical systems don’t really lend themselves to long term satisfaction.

Would the next step for 3d flying be to pre program the helicopter with a routine and then sit down and watch it do its thing, beer in hand! Ok bit tongue in cheek. Admittedly FBL is fantastic for some scale helicopters.
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JR Propo Ergo 30, OS 32SX-H, Edge 550, Edge 90.
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11-07-2017 10:15 AM  21 months ago
Jim-bob

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So you all are top level competitors in F3C and 3D right !!!
Or is it that your a bunch of old dogs that cant/wont learn how to set a FBL unit
Like Paul has said,I think the point is that the mechanical aspect is what us "old dogs" are missing. I can and have setup flybarless units for my own Logo's. But to me it's as much fun as the DVD clock The days when my flying buddies were in my backyard, trying different paddles,changing head setups, tuning engines to a tee. Cold beer afterwards: That's what I miss.
Perhaps a "classic heli" contest similar to classic pattern for the fixed wing guys. It has grown significantly in the last few years.
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11-07-2017 12:17 PM  21 months ago
870heli

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Classic heli's now I like the sound of that. A new T-rex Classic 30 nitro with a electric conversion for an extra $49.95. Also in flybar or flybarless your choice. LOL Now I would step up for that.
You can also take out your FBL unit and install a tail gyro and go fly. I do it a lot and you will see right quick what the FBL unit does for you. It's not hard at all but you will pay more attention.
Yes the days of trying different flybars, paddels, blades to find the combo that made you happy with all your work. Never mind when we made blades and balanced everything that turned.
OK I am done.
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11-07-2017 12:18 PM  21 months ago
870heli

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O YA, what's an OLD DOG. LOL
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11-07-2017 02:16 PM  21 months ago
Richardmid1

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I see a lot of people posting that there is no challenge with FBL
that anyone can do it and its boring
Is that right ?
So you all are top level competitors in F3C and 3D right !!!
Or is it that your a bunch of old dogs that cant/wont learn how to set a FBL unit
I wanna see some vids from you people that say its not challenging
to fly a FBL heli
We are more referring to setting them up to fly perfectly. With FBL you just follow the on-screen instructions and away you go. But come on, they ARE easier to fly, no question.

The FBL helis I have had have all had BeastX FBL units because there is no need for a computer to set them and I believe they fly the closest to a flybarred heli.
60% of the time, it works every time!
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