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08-26-2017 08:12 PM  11 months agoPost 1
linkarotta

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Hi. I am looking for a helicopter with the following requirements:

Medium size (20" or so)

collective pitch (pitch adjust also for the tail rotor)

tail rotor has drive shaft or belt
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mechanics, are made from METAL, not plastic

MUST have an EMERGENCY button on the remote which makes the helicopter either return to me or turn towards me or at least show on the remote which direction it is facing. (I have already lost 2 helicopters because the were so far away I could not see which direction they were facing). 

Lastly, I want the fuselage to look like a real helicopter. I do not understand why most rc helicopters don't look like the real thing. Just like when I have a model train I want it to look like the real thing, this hobby is only fun for me if the helicopter looks real.

If anyone could tell me what I should get I would much appreciate it. I have spent hours online with no success. Thank you. 

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08-26-2017 10:31 PM  11 months agoPost 2
JuanRodriguez

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Sounds like you should be considering a simulator along with someone experienced that can be of help ..... and perhaps buddy box with you until you get the hang of controlling how far out you fly ....

Don't think there is a heli with the "return to home" feature you're after .....

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

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08-26-2017 10:43 PM  11 months agoPost 3
chopper37

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Real flight sim for sure

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08-26-2017 10:47 PM  11 months agoPost 4
jbewley

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Fairfield, PA

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This one is close to what you are asking for, in regard to scale and size. It has 6 axis stabilization and easy to fly, but it is fixed pitch.

Jim

https://www.banggood.com/FX070C-2_4...r-p-937539.html

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08-27-2017 02:46 PM  11 months agoPost 5
KevinB

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Until you know how to fly, don't worry about whether it's scale or not. A scale body is just more weight to carry around (ie: shorter flight times), and more to break when you crash. Depending on the paint scheme, a scale body may or may not help at all with visibility at a distance or in poor lighting.
If visibility is the problem, use bright colored trim tape or paint on the tail boom, skids, fins, and canopy to make a "pod and boom" heli more visible.
Using bright colors and making them very different between the top and bottom of the heli really helps. Here is one canopy I painted for one of my Emblas to help with orientation:

Already mentioned above, get a good sim. (RF7.5)

KevinB

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08-27-2017 10:23 PM  11 months agoPost 6
Heli_Splatter

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Budget
Maybe we should start with how much you are willing to spend. There are a lot of reasons most fly pod and boom helicopters. We would all love to,fly your ideal helicopter.

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09-07-2017 07:09 AM  11 months agoPost 7
artimus

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You also need to learn to fly so you dont lose orientation or sight of your heli....for return to home you will need gps. All available but not gonna be cheap.....more than likly you will also need someone that done this and can answer your questions....your gonna have some for sure.

Fly Hard......Team Viagra

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09-07-2017 11:33 AM  11 months agoPost 8
Heli_Splatter

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It is kind of amazing how the new guy (OP) in a single post expressed all the problems of learning to fly helicopters and what he wants in a perfect product.

I guess that we were all looking for what he is asking for. A ready to fly bird that will save itself when we are unable to. Hey, the multi-rotors do it, why not the helicopters? And I want it to look like a "real" helicopter. Touches all the bases and then some. Ooops, it cannot cost $1,000 either.

It takes work to learn to fly helicopters. Work that most are unwilling to expend. I have guys that I am helping that don't want to spend time on a "video game" they just want to fly like Tom Cruise.

All the successful pilots, every last one of them, put in a lot of time training and learning to fly in many circumstances. There is just simply no way of getting around that.

My first simulator was a $15 FMS or something. It was horrible, the heli kept flying away. I quickly determined that the sim was at fault and spent money to buy a "decent" sim. How could it be me? Well, in retrospect, it was me, and I have to own it. FMS is not bad, not great, but not bad. I needed to learn to hover in the sim. I needed to learn to control the heli, in the sim. Even within the expensive sim, the helis flew away from me and disappeared to be a dot in the sky, however, the picture was better.

You need to find a mentor, you do not need a fancy scale helicopter. You may not be ready for an expensive heli for years or ever. There is simply no way of escaping putting in the time. You need someone to conduct maintenance flights after you have "fixed" your own heli. Trust me, you will develop bad habits if the heli is unstable due to your bad adjustments after you have pounded the blades into pavement.

We may see a time where the heli self rights and returns to home, but you still need basic flying skills. I have the drones, I have many helis now. I would not be where I am at today without all the flying time in the sim and starting with beginner products and progressing slowly to more advanced helicopters. I am even able to build my own aircraft without help now because of all the internet videos that are available.

It seems that I have made every single mistake possible, yet I am still around. I was that fight, not to be defeated and learn to do something that fascinates me to this day.

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09-07-2017 02:34 PM  11 months agoPost 9
mike123

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Brandon MS

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Well put Hili_Splatter, I agree 100% it's all about putting in the time with a sim or not you need to put the time in with a systematic approach to progression of skills. It seems people want an easy button for everything these days some things are not easy and hell flying is one of them but it's very rewarding when you get it.

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09-07-2017 03:24 PM  11 months agoPost 10
grimthenoble

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Ketchikan, Alaska

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Some people get great enjoyment of watching others fly, just sayin

Never go Full Retard!

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09-08-2017 04:22 AM  11 months agoPost 11
artimus

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Buckley WA

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I think he wants a heli that will take its self to the field and fly its self, then come home and puts itself away....all with out having to do anything to put in the time it takes to become a pilot.

Fly Hard......Team Viagra

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09-14-2017 08:55 AM  11 months agoPost 12
spaceman spiff

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Tucson

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GPS autopilots and levelers exist, never tried one. Neat little trick but I don't think i would like it after the first flight.

Watch at YouTube

+1 on the Simulator. I have been flying off and on since the 1970s and still use and enjoy the sim.

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09-21-2017 12:32 AM  11 months agoPost 13
old nitroman

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Some day i will try on my scale 222 think it be cool, but pricey

E5s and E7se,and a 766, Roban bell 222 800 superscale,450 bell 4 bladed head,gobby 380and 420 ,180cfx

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09-27-2017 01:36 PM  10 months agoPost 14
Richardmid1

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You're going to need very deep pockets! Good luck!

60% of the time, it works every time!

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09-28-2017 08:55 AM  10 months agoPost 15
betty

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Shenzhen

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Yes.It depends how much would you like to spend.

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09-29-2017 01:57 AM  10 months agoPost 16
Mputu

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that video is neat, first time I actually seen one on heli like that. That looks expensive

Fly hard, Land safe

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09-29-2017 02:39 AM  10 months agoPost 17
Gringle

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queen creek az

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Co Piliot Systems
What about those co pilot systems?

They have a hard deck and a bail out. Would something like that on a heli get him what he is looking for?

Link:
http://www.store.revolectrix.com/Pr.../Co-Pilot-II-C6

http://www.revolectrix.com/cp2_video10_tab.htm

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09-29-2017 01:21 PM  10 months agoPost 18
jbewley

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Fairfield, PA

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The Wookong was expensive, but it is no longer available. I use the Naza-H, which you can still find and really like it. It is great for the beginner pilot and protects a scale helicopter very nicely. I realize it is not for everybody.

Jim

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11-20-2017 04:27 AM  9 months agoPost 19
R38133

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USA

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Here ya go for a few hundred more they will install GPS and a return home function can be programmed very nice setup you will enjoy

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hughes-500...AXON/3619157603

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11-20-2017 06:36 AM  9 months agoPost 20
MDSCUSTOMS

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North Wales, U.K.

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Sadly I think the OP "Linkarotta" is one of the new generation that expects instant gratification out of the box. It might work that way with some drones but certainly not with Helis.

There is an exception though - he could go out and buy a Hubsan Lynx, it is scale and is available in both co-axial or normal fixed pitch versions. Not sure if they have the safety feature yet but some other models out there do have it now. The Autopilot feature has been around since the 1980's as a separate add on (HAL 2100)

The return to home features seen on drones are slowly creeping into the Heli market using the very same boxes so it won't be long before we see that taking over. (Not a bad thing thing at all)

Whether you build fly 3D or Scale, it still requires skill from the operator / Pilot - there is no instant fix and that is what the OP needs to understand.

Mark

I'm only here coz I'm not all there !!

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