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08-16-2017 04:36 PM  11 months agoPost 21
Pistol Pete

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Huh?
I could only guess that Spektrum may have taken design ideas from JR.

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08-16-2017 04:58 PM  11 months agoPost 22
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So?......Say what you mean.....

No big deal to me....I don't have any Spektrum equipment....except for some DSMX satellite RXs....since JR got out of the DSMX business....lol

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08-16-2017 10:05 PM  11 months agoPost 23
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I just purchase DX9 to replace my 12X. It was time and I got a good deal on a new DX9 at IRCHA.

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08-17-2017 06:23 PM  11 months agoPost 24
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For what its worth:
It is time to bail out on Spektrum

Their focus is now on the quad-racer market and they are leaving the RC helicopter world behind.

They are allowing 3rd party companies (like MSH) to pick up their slack in the development of telemetry and receiver redundancy.

MSH's hacked their receiver protocol so they can run 2 sats connected to the gyro and an SPM4649T connected to SRXL.
Horizon Hobbies / Spektrum said that was not possible.

They have only 1 receiver (SPM4649T) that currently supports bidirectional SRXL (for quad-racers) and only vague comments about adding bidirectional SRXL functionality to any existing output-only SRXL receiver.

Your money is better spent on changing to Jeti, Futaba or some other company that support RC helicopters

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08-17-2017 09:59 PM  11 months agoPost 25
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@ticedoff8
Time to bail out on Spektrum...they are leaving the RC helicopter world behind
Extremely curious as to what have other radios done in their radio programming in relation to helis?

Given, the only improvement or actually, "optional convenience" I have seen is adding FBL remote programming and mainly under same name brand.

The only radio that was made from the ground up exclusively marketed for helis is Mikado. Yes, they eventually have expanded into planes. No clue on the rest. So given your comments, this would be THE_go_to_brand_for_heli_only_enthusiast.

Today, most if not all heli programing is done in the FBL units which pretty much renders moot the heli programming in the radio.

Practically the only thing you need to do in radio these days is swash type, throtle settings and switch assigments plus pitch curve for scale . Heck, you probably dont even need a "heli" radio, specially since the switches are now labeled with letters. Gone are the exclusive Hold, ID1, etc.. labels.

Probably the cheapest route is to just go with a brain fbl unit and be done thanks to their "allowed-hacking" (seems contradicting, really ) improvements. Oh, wait...MHS doesnt make radios, so they would be off the list...bummer.

FWIW
Im not a Spektrum fanboy as I have Futaba and JR radios. Just trying to make sense of the "bail out" comment.

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08-17-2017 10:05 PM  11 months agoPost 26
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Perhaps he meant the RF protocol not up to date with the latest technology....such as the brands you mentioned....

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08-17-2017 10:31 PM  11 months agoPost 27
ticedoff8

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The main problem with VControl is it is a closed system that is optimized from Mikado devices and sensors.

MSH has had to hacked the Spektrum protocols for receivers, Spektrum SRXL (vs. the open standard SRXL) and the bi-direction Spektrum SRXL.

Because of MSH's efforts, RC helicopters were the early adopters of the SPM4649T and we were the ones that find their weakness when used @ 8.4v (2S LiPo), because Spektrum never thought it would ever be used in helicopters - only quad-racers.

Then MSH had to hack the receiver protocol at an even deeper level to figure out how to use two satellite receiver connected to the gyro + the SPM4649T bi-di SRXL link to provide the needed reliability / HA for a multi-receiver setup - which Spektrum kept saying was impossible.

They had to hack the protocols for HobbyWing ECS telemetry and Castle Creation's Castle Live Link in the Edge ECS

Because of MSH's desire to make their gyros the 1st choice in the Spektrum market, they have delivered on everything that Spektrum bailed out on.
You bought a DX8, DX9 or DX18 for a set of reasons. Telemetry was one of those reasons.
Spektrum never delivered.
Before MSH decided to take charge, if you wanted complex logging or real time telemetry, you needed a TM1000 plus a JLogger.

In addition to being able to do the complete configuration and setup of the gyro through the Spektrum's console, they are delivering real time telemetry from a variety of ESC (HW and CC plus more coming) and real time adjustment of most of the gains settings in the gyro.

For other radios, they have also cracked the code to deliver this and real time Vibration analysis from the gyro

I don't have any reason to think that Spektrum is committed to RC helicopters.
Mikado, Futaba, Jeti and FySky Taranis are still committed to RC helicopters

The point is and was:
Don't bother investing in Spektrum if you are planning to make a change anyway.

BTW:
I currently own a DX9. I upgraded from a DX7 long ago.
I am not selling my DX9 and I am not replacing my current investment in Spektrum electronics.
But, if the DX9 crapped out tomorrow, I'd buy a Jeti and replace all the Spektrum stuff I own for my 4 heli (2 nitro 700 / 600 and 2 electric 600/ 380).

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08-17-2017 11:26 PM  11 months agoPost 28
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Because of MSH's desire to make their gyros the 1st choice in the Spektrum market,
In a nut shell.

Thanks for response. I have been following MHS given their continued development.

Like you, I dont foresee replacing my stuff unless I have to.

What threw me off is the leaving heli behind, which in reality I dont see the correlation unless you "got-to-have-to" have telemetry which we really dont need. I have and used the T1000 which now is in a drawer. A novelty for me vs necessity. I embrace the KISS approach.

As for the jetti, it definitely is a nice radio but absolutely heavy. Their 14 channel only comes enable with 8ch so you must pay to enable the rest as well as enabling other built in features-upgrades. By the time you do, you might as well get the 16 for the same price. My flying buddy won the Bert Krammerer edition at OHB a few years back. I was fortunate to play and program it for him. He also uses the Spirit FBL with it. The enabling of built in features might have changed since, be it price or being made readily available from the base price.

Edit
A neckstrap wont cut it. You really need a shoulder type strap-harness with that heavy Tx. Exception if you lift weights and dont have a neck to begin with.

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08-17-2017 11:59 PM  11 months agoPost 29
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I don't mind heavy TXs.....I use a neck strap....

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