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08-23-2017 10:53 PM  15 months agoPost 21
oldfart

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Drone is any aircraft without a human pilot on board.
Yes, no human pilot, but from the Wikipidea definition relative to the FAA, they say:
"UAVs are a component of an unmanned aircraft system (UAS); which include a UAV, a ground-based controller, and a system of communications between the two."

Therefore I assume, when they say "and a system of communications between the two" they mean the UAV must be sending back a video and other information to the controller.

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08-23-2017 11:15 PM  15 months agoPost 22
Heli_Splatter

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The system of communication for line of sight is the radio and your eyes.

You want something not to be something it is. You want special rules because it does not have a video camera or who knows what other parameter. If I stand on the ground and watch my drone fly into a building does it make it any less dangerous than if I do the same with video goggles?

Carve it up any way you like it, the FAA will soon have authority over your US based model airplane again. We can argue over the definition until the drones fly home, does it really make any difference. The public perceives anything that flies is a drone. Who cares what they think.

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08-23-2017 11:18 PM  15 months agoPost 23
EEngineer

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"Carve it up any way you like it, the FAA will soon have authority over your US based model airplane again."

That's what you wanted in the first place...several months ago....

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08-24-2017 02:48 AM  15 months agoPost 24
ICUR1-2

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Bumper stickers
I fly RC helicopters because football,soccer and baseball only require one ball to play.

spending time, paying attention

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08-24-2017 03:22 AM  15 months agoPost 25
EEngineer

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"baseball"

In an average MLB baseball game, over 60 balls are used....

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08-24-2017 05:44 AM  15 months agoPost 26
dkshema

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Basketball requires about 3 balls per game, soccer at least 14, football a minimum of 36.

Fun facts that will cause people to drone on.

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08-24-2017 12:03 PM  15 months agoPost 27
IYKIST

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wjvail, Could you do an article on the first drone you have a picture off, i am interested in that particular one.

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08-24-2017 02:22 PM  15 months agoPost 28
EEngineer

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"Fun facts that will cause people to drone on."

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08-24-2017 06:28 PM  15 months agoPost 29
ICUR1-2

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all of those sports only use one ball at a time

RC helicopters takes both

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08-24-2017 06:33 PM  15 months agoPost 30
EEngineer

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In baseball, a walk requires 4 balls....

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08-24-2017 06:43 PM  15 months agoPost 31
Pistol Pete

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Oldfart
a ground-based controller (Tx) and a system of communications between the two."(Telemetry)
The way I read it

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08-24-2017 07:37 PM  15 months agoPost 32
EEngineer

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We use telemetry on our helis....to send avionic data status back to the operator...besides using a video link.....

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08-25-2017 01:44 PM  15 months agoPost 33
wjvail

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wjvail, Could you do an article on the first drone you have a picture off, i am interested in that particular one.
I can... But give me a day or two. It's 2nd amendment weekend in Mississippi and I'm going to the gun stores.

"Well, nothing bad can happen now."

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08-25-2017 02:21 PM  15 months agoPost 34
EEngineer

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Are there sales?....

Buy two, get one free?.....

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08-25-2017 03:50 PM  15 months agoPost 35
wjvail

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Are there sales?....
Buy two, get one free?.....
Every year something is on sale. There is always a door buster. Buy two get one probably not. Who needs 3 of the same gun? But....

I tell everyone I bought an AR-15 by accident. That usually elicits a blank stare and long pause while they wait for the punchline. The fact is, a few years ago, I was minding my own business out for a motorcycle ride on a pleasant sunny day. Not knowing it was 2nd amendment weekend I stopped by my local gun store on the way home - just to see what's new. Well, Bushmasters were on sale to help celebrate. $499 no tax. Damnit! I don't even particularly like Armalite Rifles and I don't really see a need for a 556/223. Anyway. You can guess how it ended. $500 and 15 minutes latter I was bungeeing it on the back of my motorcycle. I went out for a motorcycle ride and accidentally ended up with an AR-15.

As a side note, you will get an assortment of reactions from other drivers with an AR-15 strapped to the back of a bike.

"Well, nothing bad can happen now."

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08-25-2017 04:12 PM  15 months agoPost 36
EEngineer

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Damn good price....

I'd like to get one, but how much is the ammo?

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08-26-2017 12:08 AM  15 months agoPost 37
wjvail

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...how much is the ammo?
About $340/1000 rounds. Not cheep but I don't shoot a lot and I can think of more expensive hobbies.

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08-26-2017 03:18 AM  15 months agoPost 38
EEngineer

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I thought it would be more...

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08-26-2017 03:55 AM  15 months agoPost 39
Chris Bergen

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on board.
Yes, no human pilot, but from the Wikipidea definition relative to the FAA, they say:
"UAVs are a component of an unmanned aircraft system (UAS); which include a UAV, a ground-based controller, and a system of communications between the two."
Therefore I assume, when they say "and a system of communications between the two" they mean the UAV must be sending back a video and other information to the controller.
Have to disagree here. A ground based controller can be a tx as we all know it, but may also be a computer (laptop/tablet). The computer may use a joystick for an interface, but must have some sort of communication equipment to transmit the commands from said joystick/laptop.

The Tx's as we know them in the hobby world incorporate both into one nice tidy box, a controller AND the system of communication.

Communication does NOT require it to be two way, or would you argue that commands sent to the aircraft is not communicating with it? Or as one poster put it, the return communication is you seeing the response of the aircraft to your commands...

Therefore, as much as I really dislike it, our hobby model helicopters do qualify as UAS, Drones, etc, whatever the current favored terminology is...

What differentiates our models from what is currently under regulation is it's usage. Hobby/recreation or commercial activity. Keyword being currently. If you'd like the hobby to remain outside the purview of the FAA, better get in contact with your representatives in our govt. Otherwise I suspect that the mistake the FAA made in attempting regulation will be corrected in the next legislative document pertaining to what the FAA is "allowed" to regulate..

Chris D. Bergen

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08-26-2017 04:30 AM  15 months agoPost 40
EEngineer

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The sooner Huerta goes, the better.....

What's humorous is that RC has been "droning" on for decades before there was a definition for a "drone".....

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