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07-22-2017 04:16 PM  17 months agoPost 1
fla heli boy

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I bought the all inclusive kit (I'll be running a mini Ikon2) the moment it showed in stock at Helidirect. I'm holding off on building it till I head north for a 6 week vacation (gives me something new to build). Just wondering what people's first impressions and/or tips were of the little guy.
Sure is hard not to work on it....

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07-26-2017 01:38 PM  16 months agoPost 2
fla heli boy

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haha... am I the only one that bought one of these???

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07-27-2017 09:51 AM  16 months agoPost 3
Dawiev

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Very active SAB 280 forum on HF.

Seems there is a fair amount of tail wag/servo and boom fit/flex issues.

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07-27-2017 02:19 PM  16 months agoPost 4
fla heli boy

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that doesn't sound good....

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09-16-2017 04:50 AM  15 months agoPost 5
zonker

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So did anyone pick one of these up? Likes? Dislikes? Is there a tail wag? Just curious?

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09-16-2017 05:31 AM  15 months agoPost 6
Cromer

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I won a Fireball in the pilot raffle at the Northeast Model Helicopter Jamboree. I just maidened it today and here are my thoughts.
The build was VERY quick and easy. The parts count is small and I really like the main rotor shaft setup, it is very innovative. I am not a big fan of the plastic canopy and boom. They look like they will break very easily in a crash. It does look like they will be fairly cheap to replace however, so that may not be a big deal. The stickers look ok but a nicely painted boom and canopy would have been nice. The servo layout is done well and overall it appears that it will be an easy machine to rebuild after a crash.
The machine feels quite heavy in your hand but I must say it does not fly heavy at all. I had no tail wag at all and the tail was very well behaved and felt very solid. I am no stick banger by any stretch of the imagination but I do fly mid level 3D with some piro moves thrown in for good measure. I must say this is one of the quietest birds I have ever heard and it is very very smooth in the air with good visibility. Overall I would have to say I am quite pleased. I did not think it was going to unseat my Oxy 3 as my favorite smaller heli and I am not sure if it will but it is certainly giving it a much closer run for the money than I thought it would. I guess time will tell.

Phil

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09-16-2017 01:00 PM  15 months agoPost 7
zonker

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Phil, thanks for the review. I had an Oxy3 Stretch that I really liked but there were times I couldn't see it very well. I kind of wondered if the Fireball would be easier to see.

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09-17-2017 02:08 PM  15 months agoPost 8
fla heli boy

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I love mine. Curious to see when the conversion kit comes out for converting to a comet.

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09-17-2017 02:28 PM  15 months agoPost 9
Dawiev

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Doing it with individual parts will cost about $160. Don't see a conversion kit costing much less ?

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09-17-2017 02:35 PM  15 months agoPost 10
zonker

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I have to admit I don't fully understand the idea of a mini speed helicopter. Because of its small size wouldn't it be easy for it to get away from the pilot just because you can't see it as easily as a bigger machine? I've never flown a speed machine before, just 3D.

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09-18-2017 02:05 PM  15 months agoPost 11
fla heli boy

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I remember reading somewhere that there would be a "all inclusive" conversion kit for it when they first announced them. As far as the "speed comment", I'm sure we've all thought the same. That being said, I'd sure like to try it. The Fireball sure gets small fast... and I'm running the stock motor. Will be a challenge to keep it close in for sure. But you can always 3D the thing. I like that the Comet is a hard shell and not plastic.

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09-30-2017 12:13 PM  14 months agoPost 12
Richardmid1

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I WAS thinking of getting one till I did like 5 minutes research on it. What im seeing is it's heavy and tail heavy at that so you have to use the larger packs which makes it heavier! The snap on boom can be a bit loose on some kits which is why people are getting wagging tails. Not a big deal as I've heard you just put tape round it to make the fit more snug but after you have done that exactly how much better is the tail?! Or is it still flawed? Also if it's heavy it's going to need crazy head speed to move like every other goblin so your looking at 3 minute 3d flights and the batteries are expensive and hard to find! What the hell is wrong with 3s in such a small heli?!

60% of the time, it works every time!

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10-11-2017 03:27 PM  14 months agoPost 13
fla heli boy

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For the tail, I just smeared a little Goop with my thumb at the tail/frame juction. No problems at all. I've never had any wag or anything, ever.
It is heavy in the hand, but it does NOT fly that way at all.
As far as headspeed, I LOVE flying it around in normal mode at a low headspeed.... get great flight times. Ramping up to max HS on IU2 Gets me about 3:30 or so. About what I expected.
Oh, hes... it IS tail heavy. I may go to bigger batts (I have 1050's now) or just live with it. If you're flying it hard, you barely notice it. Slower flight it will show up in you turn exits.
It's a great little heli. Fun to build and fly, parts are very reasonable. Also, they're now out with some cool upgrades as well as FG booms and canopies if you go to the SAB sight.

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10-11-2017 11:12 PM  14 months agoPost 14
piranhafreak

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I have both the fireball and mini comet they are amazing little helis.

Must install anti static or you will have problems also getting the tail perfectly smooth might take a little work but it needs to be perfect to avoid wag issues. On the fireball I pinned the boom to keep it from moving. The anti rotation bracket sucks and needs work/trimming and sanding to work smoothly or you can upgrade to the CBC one and avoid the hassle

Do those things and you will have the best little heli out there it’s simply amazing flys smooth and fast or how ever you want it to be. And if you want just all put power the competition motor is vey noticeably more powerful then the regular one

Mabey one day i will actually land one of these things !!

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10-12-2017 03:38 PM  14 months agoPost 15
Richardmid1

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It is heavy in the hand, but it does NOT fly that way at all.
Even at 3600-3700 (adequate for 3D for 280mm blade heli)? Or do you need the full 4200+ rpm?
Oh, hes... it IS tail heavy. I may go to bigger batts (I have 1050's now) or just live with it. If you're flying it hard, you barely notice it. Slower flight it will show up in you turn exits.
Actually I find it more noticeable during 3D flight particularly pirouetting manoeuvers. It's the main reason I got rid of my NX4, that was a tail heavy pig aswell!

Looking at the manual all that's needed is to extend the front battery tray and sit either the ESC or FBL unit on there.

60% of the time, it works every time!

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10-14-2017 02:38 PM  14 months agoPost 16
fla heli boy

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supposedly the new FG boom is MUCH lighter. I might give that a try to remedy the problem.

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10-19-2017 02:12 AM  14 months agoPost 17
piranhafreak

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It’s is a lot lighter not sure how much but In your hands you can feel it

Mabey one day i will actually land one of these things !!

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10-22-2017 10:59 PM  14 months agoPost 18
Anton123

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I have been flying my Mini Comet for the last two days.. Love this thing. The size will take a little getting use too.. But flies amazing... I am coming from a 700BT and 570G was not sure if I was going to like it.... It is ballistic and a ball of fun! Get one

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