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07-07-2017 02:42 PM  33 months ago
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The resale section is no longer what it use to be, WHY!
Because the Middle-Class citizen was destroyed by Obama. Don't mistake the upper middle class with the true-blue collar workers. We bought the used stuff because we had the money to buy it. Now we don't. Now here is where the hobby starts to fail. The people that just have enough to buy new are unable to sell the old copters, now the upper middle class is effected because they watch the 2 and 3 thousand dollars copters on the wall devalue every day. Then you have the guys that are kings of the hill rich. They buy the new fancy stuff because they can but by themselves they can't keep a hobby afloat. This started 4 years ago and believe me it just not the RC community, every hobby has been effected.

I gave a top dollar 100-watt tube guitar amp with new tubes (Crate) and with a 4-speaker cabinet, a 100-watt bass amp, (Crate, like new), and a 120-watt Crate solid state amp like new to a church music dept. because one could afford $400 bucks. 4 years ago, I would a got 600 in a flash for the stack alone.

I bought a pedal that cost 400 last month, I never use it! I tried for 8 days nationwide to sell it for 300, my Sweetwater rep took it as a return for a different item, TG! Again, the rich guy buys new.

This country was broken by the word FREE, anyone that doesn’t realize this is on this site is a foreigner or is receiving FREE! FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope you can comprehend since Trump has been POTUS we have had no Virus threats, Iran and the general area is no longer top news. Gasoline is still in the same price zone and the stock market is flourishing. Though this is still a problem, street crime and shooting have been cut by 75%. Open your eyes, socialism is no good! It will take, take. and take until there is no more to take and then the fun begins!

If we had the cash we would still be playing with toys for big boys!
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07-07-2017 04:04 PM  33 months ago
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Well lets see...

first, RC helis are NOT Investments... they are liabilities, they do not hold nor gain value. Whatever value they do have is solely intrinsic to its owner.

Second, rich guys that buy RC helis are not in it to make any money, its no different than drinking expensive wine, to show off, to enjoy for a short time, then later on share a story.

Third, if you gave your Amp nd other items away, thats your prerogative, no one forced you to buy it and no one forced you to sell it or give it away. What you hope to get back $$$ wise is solely dependent on what someone else want to pay for it. In your case you simply didnt find a buyer... Someone would have bought it if you looked hard enough... the old saying "theres a sucker born every minute" holds true.

Forth, If you bought a Pedal, then never used it, you alone are to blame for that loss... you obviously didnt need it to begin with.

Lastly, FREE... there is no such thing, ANYTHING thats given and then requires effort from you to use, maintain, own, or even sell later at a net loss over time... well it is NOT FREE (by giving you something, you now had to spend money on it to use it, or maintain it etc). How you choose to live your life and how you perceive this will define what you think concerning matters of money.

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showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...
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07-07-2017 04:28 PM  33 months ago
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Also, always consider using an "inflation calculator", of which there are many online.

Before such financial pronouncements are made....

In addition to the fact that these are indeed "liabilities" rather than assets.....just like used cars.

In most every case....

And it doesn't really have anything to do with "rich guys", either.

If you want to compete effectively, no matter how "rich" you are, you have to buy quality engineered equipment to win....in addition to "honing your skills".

Keep that in mind, too.

This hobby is expensive....always has been....it's a luxury that we all enjoy.
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07-07-2017 05:27 PM  33 months ago
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Don't get too hung up on the new VS used toys, upper class VS lower class, politics stuff. Think bigger, and much simpler.

The guy who lives paycheck to paycheck is ALWAYS at a disadvantage to anyone who is able to get ahead of the game and stay there.

My brother is a big fish, makes more than 5 times what I make, but he and his wife spend every penny on the big house, horses, fancy cars and trucks.... I on the other hand live in a crappy little house, drive an old modest car, and enjoy much more modest toys. His money disappears, I save and invest as much of mine as I can.

Fast forward 30 years of that situation.... In spite of being in 1% territory, my brother will be working till he is 70, and has to, I can retire now if I want to at 56. On a good year my investments now earn more than my job does. He even had to borrow from me when one of his air conditioners broke down a couple years ago.

As for Obummer, yea he did not do us any favors, but neither did most of his predecessors. Illegal immigration contributes to wage stagnation. Wage stagnation has been a problem for 20 years or more, job loss to China and elsewhere contributes to wage stagnation... I hated bummer, but he did not invent fiscal stupidity, he just perfected it.
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07-07-2017 06:06 PM  33 months ago
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Debt free is a major key in accumulating wealth over the years....Logo 600SXs, 800XX, TDR IIs
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07-07-2017 07:26 PM  33 months ago
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No one wants a 72MHz flybar nitro heli anymore.
I have a few that I don't use, Synergy, Predator gasser,,, but I wont even attempt to sell them. Not worth the hassle.

The recession killed off suppliers too, folks don't want a heli if there are no parts for them.

Anyone want an old 8 track tape player?
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07-08-2017 12:23 AM  33 months ago
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Anyone want an old 8 track tape player?
I still have a couple of them in my shed, tapes too! If you're interested.
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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07-08-2017 03:47 AM  33 months ago
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No thanks.
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07-08-2017 03:05 PM  33 months ago
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Most of you missed the point, but that is expected
Runryder use to have dozens of advertisers displayed on the main page, Now 7,

To advertise your company the company has to make money from advertisement. People are not buying used copters, results in less sales of parts and support items. It is like the rungs of a ladder, remove the middle rungs the climber will never make it to the top and will finally give up.

If you can't see the difference from 5 years ago you never will understand.

Ouote; Then you have the guys that are kings of the hill rich. They buy the new fancy stuff because they can but by themselves they can't keep a hobby afloat.
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07-08-2017 03:42 PM  33 months ago
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So what's your point again?Logo 600SXs, 800XX, TDR IIs
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07-08-2017 04:07 PM  33 months ago
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How to understand others and give a logical point of view.
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07-08-2017 04:34 PM  33 months ago
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I just returned from a club swap meet. I took all my money and coins out of my pockets before I went there. Bought nothing, traded nothing. Best swap meet ever. I have a whole house of this crap. Why buy more. There.... that is your answer.
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07-08-2017 04:48 PM  33 months ago
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The "heli economy" is a small microcosm of the overall economy....

Because of the actions of our politicians, the US economy was snafu'd over a decade ago....

And it hasn't yet recovered sufficiently....and it has effected everything and everybody....
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07-08-2017 05:03 PM  33 months ago
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babyuh1 has a couple 8 tracks for sale. Someone should buy them to keep the dream alive and stick it to the man! Babyuh then has some cash to get an MP3 player, (just like the real middle class used to have) ... and street crime and shooting will be cut by annother 75%.

Am i close?
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07-08-2017 05:07 PM  33 months ago
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I have an old Kraft 72Mhz radio system.....and some Kraft electric retractable landing gears....would that help?

We can all open a huge antique shop....

And can name it.....Amazique....
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07-08-2017 05:18 PM  33 months ago
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Welcome to the island of misfits Brad.
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07-08-2017 05:20 PM  33 months ago
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Misfits.....why I oughtta......Logo 600SXs, 800XX, TDR IIs
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07-08-2017 05:41 PM  33 months ago
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.....you oughta be able to get enough dough for your old Kraft stuff to buy a nice 4WD F250 truck, or a Ferarri, always loved the sound of those. Then you will be a true upperclass 1% rich guy!

And street crime and shooting will drop 85%!
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07-08-2017 06:09 PM  33 months ago
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But it's a dual-frequency Kraft radio....I can choose either of two 72MHz frequency pins to use....

I'll even throw in a brand new 450mAh NiCad pack...
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07-08-2017 07:24 PM  33 months ago
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No one wants a 72MHz flybar nitro heli anymore
No, but 50MHz nitro might get me interested, depending on what it is . . .
Friends don't let friends become electrotarded . . . .
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