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06-04-2017 10:24 AM  25 months ago
abyzzfan

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I hear you on the free speech... but its a right, that is supposed to be granted and guaranteed by a government that operates under the constitution... the government can choose to negate that right. After all rights are only agreements between two groups, the governed and the governing. A gun or threat of death can change that right at any moment. The constitution is nothing but a piece of paper which in essence is nothing more than a set of guidelines... its the people that make it worth something.
I do agree that governments need to enforce it - but enforce it FAIRLY. The concept of Free Speech that I put forward is, how shall we say, a "divine" part of the human condition. I meant it in the sense that any human is FREE to think what he likes because that FREEDOM to think what he likes is a fundamental part of the human condition, of the very essence of life itself. Repressive societies and dictatorships can suppress it - but they can't take it away, it just goes underground them. Given proper Free Speech laws these things get out in the open as they should.
just look as the crap that is going on within our college campuses... free speech is only granted to the liberals... the conservatives are shut down by both the student body AND administrators... so Free speech is not a non-negotiable right in the strictest sense. No government has stepped in to enforce that right.
Then these idiots don't understand the concept of Free Speech and they need to be educated properly about it. Free Speech should be available to ALL - that is non negotiable. If the liberals don't like that then they can go f@£k themselves.
What worries me is that we are using the premise of free speech to do bad things...
Free Speech can be used to do loads of things - not all of them bad. It is one of the reasons why we have such a rich range of philosophies and artistic expressions in the free world, because the creators were given the right to do the things that they wanted.
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06-04-2017 12:08 PM  25 months ago
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Griffin's right to free speech was NOT infringed upon. She is not facing criminal charges. A right to free speech does not mean you can say or do whatever you like and be immune to consequences of another nature.

Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD.
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06-04-2017 12:40 PM  25 months ago
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So where's the poll on all the liberals that support her? According to the polls he ( Trump )is the most hated man on the planet.
With all the public backlash over this maybe once again the polls are wrong and bias.
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06-04-2017 12:51 PM  25 months ago
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Just because you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD.
I never said that she should have. However, I respect her choice - because it's HER choice and her choice alone. It's about the right of individuality.

Same thing with libtards, they have the right to say what they want, and from the actions of Kathy Griffin she is losing potential supporters to her cause because they have observed just how messed up the liberal lefties are.
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06-04-2017 06:18 PM  25 months ago
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Note also that freedom of speech does not imply freedom from consequences . . . . You can say what you like, and can also freely get arrested or fired for it, etc . . .Friends don't let friends become electrotarded . . . .
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06-04-2017 06:44 PM  25 months ago
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I can't believe that the Communist News Network fired her. I would have expected them to make her their CEO for attacking Trump that viciously!Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!
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06-04-2017 06:49 PM  25 months ago
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^^^ I never said it didn't. I just stated it was her right to do it if she wanted to. If she is dumb enough not to understand the consequences then that is her problem. But nobody is going to call for her death . .

We have people in Iran getting killed for "insulting islam" and other retarded nonsense, almost comical to say the least, but it's no laughing matter to the victims.

The main reason why Free Speech has advanced the society that it is upheld is simply because we are passed a level of understanding of this world that can be taken at face value or by consulting a retarded book that sort of works. The major themes of this age is that nothing is really what it seems and that superficial understanding can only be that sometimes. If you don't have Free Speech crazy ideas cannot be explored, and guess what? crazy ideas is what advances mankind, not all of them, but sometimes it takes real courage to say: I don't have to accept this old rubbish, I can think of something else. Some of the most complicated novels in world literature are of this theme.
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06-04-2017 08:15 PM  25 months ago
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abyzzfan
I never said that she should have.
Oh, I wasn't confused about what you were saying and I wasn't disagreeing...I was in my own little world blabbing which is what I usually do.

I'm a believer of free speech and I think Kathy Griffin is getting what she deserves from the court of public opinion.
90% of life is "showing up"
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06-05-2017 06:15 AM  25 months ago
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guys in short,

if some one has NO true "entitlement" yet has feelings of "entitlement", they have a sickness, yet this sickness is usually held within some one's mind for years and years,,, in short>, in their mind these feelings remove Integrity and gives them a right to do what they feel they have to do to get what they want or what they feel they are entitled to,,

now, research "Child Victim of a Narcissistic Family",, it is a known fact, that if a child lives in a narcissistic family, their life can (or may not) become a day to day life, meaning that the child can conform to the fact that tomorrow is just another day and they can not change what happens, you see this with Convicts in Prisons, they can't change their life so they conform and come to except what ever happens to them,,, lies are excepted because it is just another day, more belittling is excepted because it is just another day, more back stabbing ??, well it's just another day !!!

now, in short, a weak adult mind that has been a Child Victim of a Narcissistic life that has NO feelings of "entitlement", can "can or can not" be imprinted over the years with feelings of "entitlement" from others with stronger minds, so now, with all this crap jammed into one mind (yes yes it's a form of brain washing) is why people strap TNT to their bellies

like I said, "it's all in short",, call it religion, call it teaching, or call it brain washing
Jim
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06-05-2017 06:22 AM  25 months ago
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How do you explain Bolshevik Bernie Sanders?....Logo 600SXs, 800XX, TDR IIs
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06-05-2017 06:41 AM  25 months ago
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read up on the "Covert Narcissistic" and "Child Victim of a Narcissistic Family",, I have research them for 3 years now, every thing I said was in short

Sanders, he just want's more power, and tries to use the wanters to get there

night night
Jim
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06-05-2017 08:29 PM  25 months ago
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06-05-2017 09:15 PM  25 months ago
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That was uncalled for...sometimes I drink coffee while surfing through RunRyder...now I'll have to take my monthly bath early.
90% of life is "showing up"
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06-05-2017 09:43 PM  25 months ago
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And get a new keyboard...Logo 600SXs, 800XX, TDR IIs
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06-05-2017 09:46 PM  25 months ago
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Oh man, that is freaking scary.
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06-05-2017 11:23 PM  25 months ago
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Did anyone else think of the wicked witch of the west, When they saw that picture ?
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06-06-2017 01:44 AM  25 months ago
rcmiket

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Looks just like all the other liberal women.

Mike
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06-06-2017 05:02 AM  25 months ago
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Did anyone else think of the wicked witch of the west, When they saw that picture ?
not me, I thought "oh my god she's a Tranny"
Jim
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06-06-2017 05:02 AM  25 months ago
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All I can say about this is thank God that she posted the Trump thing and not a sex video!
That really would have traumatized the nation's young men.
Why not? She has a nice body.. as long as she has a bag over her head...
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06-06-2017 05:08 AM  25 months ago
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" free speech ????"

As far as I can tell she didn't say anything...

She posed for a picture as savages do after a beheading murder.....

I wonder what the outcome would be if a Caucasian posing with obamas head during his presidency...

Would it fall under free speech or hate crime
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