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03-20-2017 11:04 AM  20 months agoPost 1
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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is it necessary to use 12 degrees of pitch with a beast x gyro ?

can 10+ and 10- be used instead of 12- 12 + pitch

ive never heard of such a thing

i read this.
If it's a beastx clone. The pitch in set up must always be +12 and -12 it has to do with the beastx knowing it's end points. If you do that step with any other number than the +-12 the beastx will not work correctly. If you are done with the set.

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03-20-2017 03:15 PM  20 months agoPost 2
Flyin for Jesus

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In case that is true, you can setup the heli to have +/- 12 degrees, then change your pitch curve in the Tx after the FBL setup to give you +/- 10.

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03-20-2017 05:37 PM  20 months agoPost 3
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You can set the beastx pitch at what ever degrees you want as long as your heli will mechanical do it. Only requirement is that the tx pitch curve be linear when you set it up.

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03-20-2017 06:03 PM  20 months agoPost 4
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"i read this.

If it's a beastx clone. The pitch in set up must always be +12 and -12 it has to do with the beastx knowing it's end points. If you do that step with any other number than the +-12 the beastx will not work correctly. If you are done with the set."

Total BS.

Where in heck do some people come up with this crap?

+/- 10 degrees is quite OK....

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03-20-2017 06:25 PM  20 months agoPost 5
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03-20-2017 06:44 PM  20 months agoPost 6
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.......

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03-21-2017 09:19 AM  20 months agoPost 7
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thank you,
a beginner pilot friend of mines wanted to set up his new 550 with 13 degrees of pitch.

I told him to much pitch could cause tail blowouts and he would have a much more locked in tail with 10 degree's of pitch then another pilot told us with his bx he needs to set it up with 12 and 12 are the bx would not work properly.

10 degrees of pitch is all I need

what purpose would 13 degrees of pitch serve? does the same thing that 10 does right 3d

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03-21-2017 05:50 PM  20 months agoPost 8
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WC, I just checked by Blade 450X manual...the 450X uses the AR7200BX....which is basically a BeastX.

The manual states(Pg. 12) that the "stock" setting provides +/- 12 deg. of collective pitch.

It also states that one uses the stick to adjust the collective to the desired pitch during setup(other than the stock +/- 12).

This manual might be online somewhere so that you can read it yourself to verify that collective other than +/- 12 can indeed be used successfully.

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03-23-2017 02:51 PM  20 months agoPost 9
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thanks brother EE

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03-23-2017 04:32 PM  20 months agoPost 10
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Follow the instructions and use 12/12 ... then just adjust your pitch endpoints to your liking.

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03-23-2017 04:34 PM  20 months agoPost 11
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10-4 TY

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03-24-2017 06:59 AM  20 months agoPost 12
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I set 12.5 and -12.5 degree, and it works fine for hard 3D flying.

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03-24-2017 08:36 AM  20 months agoPost 13
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What unit is it exactly ?
I'm curious to check out a beastx clone. Is it more like the original beastx ? Or more like the spektrum beastx (if there's even a difference)

I've recently set up two spektrum beastx units and there's no mention of there needing to be 12 degrees, but I think we've got the non clone discussion of that covered. There's only your desired min and max pitch as well as the obvious 6 degree mark during set up. The clone... who knows how different it actually is.

I'll be curious to check her out. Especially if it's the same but not $200 new lol.

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03-24-2017 04:44 PM  20 months agoPost 14
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Most people using clones don't brag on the forums. Most of us believe in paying for and supporting the companies doing all the original work.

Just me, I refuse to help anyone at the field using knockoffs and clones.

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03-24-2017 04:51 PM  20 months agoPost 15
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Clones will work exactly the same as the original since its the same components and same firmware.
It cheaper because they didn't pay an engineer to select all the components and lay them out on a board, then have a programmer write firmware and have several test pilots fly the gyro and give feedback for the programmer to modify the firmware.
I'm sure I missed a few steps here but you get the point. I don't buy cloned anything, no matter what the cost savings is.
But that is just me, everyone's different.

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03-24-2017 06:32 PM  20 months agoPost 16
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"I'm sure I missed a few steps here but you get the point."

That pretty much sums it up....but I will add:

Clones are theft of "intellectual property"...do you hear me ChiComs?

Nor will one get a warranty.

Also, the Invensense MEMS gyro ICs used in these clones haven't been manufactured since ~2013...No more are being made...forever.

When the world supply of these ICs is consumed, these clones cannot be made any more. In addition, the software that these finks stole only works with the specific Invensense gyro ICs and will not work with other gyro ICs.....and since they stole the software, they don't know how it works exactly.....hahaha.

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03-24-2017 08:32 PM  20 months agoPost 17
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Clones are theft of "intellectual property"
clone parts are sometimes called aftermarket there are plenty of aftermarket item being sold legally

just like the kbar gyro if a kbar gyro had a vbabr logo on it then it would be illegal copy

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03-24-2017 08:44 PM  20 months agoPost 18
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see there differences ?
kbars yellow vbar blue

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03-24-2017 09:03 PM  20 months agoPost 19
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Clones will work exactly the same as the original
cones are almost the same

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03-24-2017 09:47 PM  20 months agoPost 20
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We've covered this before, wc.

It's IP theft on a major scale.....and not "aftermarket".

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