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03-20-2017 12:09 PM  20 months agoPost 21
Heli_Splatter

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AMA says register.

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03-20-2017 01:23 PM  20 months agoPost 22
revmix

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AMA says
then it's not just opinion but a must for hobbyists

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03-20-2017 01:53 PM  20 months agoPost 23
BeltFedBrowning

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The AMA cant make laws anymore than the FAA can.

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03-20-2017 01:56 PM  20 months agoPost 24
JuanRodriguez

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The AMA is a PRIVATE organization..... I believe they "suggest" that members register but as has been mentioned before, it is not a "requirement"
and thus, it NOT required by the AMA. If a member chooses NOT to register, he/she still enjoys the same protection provided to members that registered.

Clubs across the nation are leaving it up to individual members to register or not...... and there is no club that I'm aware of enforcing anything regarding registration.

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

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03-20-2017 01:57 PM  20 months agoPost 25
revmix

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nationwide CBO's policy is the r/c hobby model-sUAS operating rule per approval of Congress
if hobby activity is not within a CBO instruction then hobbyist is not operating by sec.336(2)~101.41(b)

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03-20-2017 02:22 PM  20 months agoPost 26
revmix

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If a member chooses NOT to register
AMA says register then it's not just opinion but a must for hobbyists

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03-20-2017 02:23 PM  20 months agoPost 27
JuanRodriguez

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You better go back and listen to the video you posted....

The AMA says they "suggest" you register..... far cry from "you must"....The AMA has absolutely NO regulatory authority.....

I see you've dug yourself quite the hole on this thread as well !!!

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

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03-20-2017 02:26 PM  20 months agoPost 28
revmix

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far cry from "you must"....
check what sec.336 & 101.41 federal law states about CBO

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03-20-2017 02:34 PM  20 months agoPost 29
JuanRodriguez

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Check out your own link to the AMA video and try listening closely to it this time.....

You're obviously having a comprehension issue but if you listen to it carefully and repeatedly it might sink in.....

Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....

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03-20-2017 02:40 PM  20 months agoPost 30
revmix

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sink in
pic is worth a 1000 words on CBO's webpage; Federal UAS Registration
even has a link to FAA sUAS registration site

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03-20-2017 02:57 PM  20 months agoPost 31
Heli_Splatter

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It will cost you $5 to register for 3years, or it will cost you thousands to defend yourself from the fine points of the law when trying to jump through this legislative loop hole.

All these guys are looking for someone stupid enough to be the test case, so they can sit in the back laughing their collective butts off. It cost literally nothing to comply with an FAA regulation and one hell of a lot getting caught not complying.

Choose the route of least resistance, or be that test fool.

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03-20-2017 03:00 PM  20 months agoPost 32
revmix

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crystal clear
FAA sUAS registration does not alter r/c activity,
at least the registration makes online safety guidance

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03-20-2017 05:02 PM  20 months agoPost 33
cudaboy_71

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Try it this way:

Replace "The AMA/FAA says" with "My mom says"

The statement will hold just as much LEGAL authority; LEGAL meaning the federal law. Only congress can make laws.

No, you may not be abiding by the RULES of the FAA or AMA and you may be putting your AMA insurance coverage in jeopardy if you ever needed to make a claim. And, the AMA may have the authority to revoke its license, meaning you can be kicked out of an AMA club, just as your mother can kick you out of her house for not abiding her rules.

But, there are no current LAWS being broken by not following the FAA or AMA suggestions.

if it ain't broke, break it.

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03-20-2017 05:11 PM  20 months agoPost 34
revmix

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But, there are no current LAWS being broken by not following the FAA or AMA suggestions.
try again reading Public Law sec.336 regarding a CBO rule

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03-20-2017 06:21 PM  20 months agoPost 35
EEngineer

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"It will cost you $5 to register for 3years, or it will cost you thousands to defend yourself from the fine points of the law when trying to jump through this legislative loop hole."

Nope....if you're solely a hobbyist, then it won't even see the light of day in federal court...The judge would IMMEDIATELY throw it out as frivolous.

And the FAA knows this...and the AMA should realize this.

Why don't you call Senator James Inhofe, R-Oklahoma?

Would ya'll like his # number?

He sponsored the bill that was passed into FEDERAL law.

You must realize that the FAA also has a budget approved by Congress....not by the FAA, nor by the AMA, etc.

And with Trump cutting federal budgets, the last thing the FAA wants to waste money on is filing frivolous lawsuits.

In short, the law is clear with regards to hobbyists....as Inhofe intended...and the legal cost to defend against this nonsense is "nil".

FWIW

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03-20-2017 06:22 PM  20 months agoPost 36
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Again, I say, are you going to let the expenditure of $5 to follow a reasonable regulation keep you from taking a chance that you are correct and fighting a legal battle to the supreme court.

The AMA's 336 language is a desperate ploy to retain significance.

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03-20-2017 06:36 PM  20 months agoPost 37
EEngineer

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"And, the AMA may have the authority to revoke its license, meaning you can be kicked out of an AMA club"

The AMA has stated(like on its "back page", similar to newspapers) that they won't get involved with this issue with regards to club membership.

Nor will the AMA even try to "revoke" ones AMA license.....period.

What is happening...is that some clubs(because of over-zealous and officious officers...you know the types) are requiring their members to waste their money on this nonsense as a pre-condition to being a member.

In addition, for anyone that believes that the charge is $5 for 3 years won't be raised....well....I have several bridges in Brooklyn that I'll give a really good price on.

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03-20-2017 06:44 PM  20 months agoPost 38
EEngineer

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I won't even give two cents.

It won't even get to a federal district court.

Where in heck do you get your legal advice?

Just curious.

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03-20-2017 07:10 PM  20 months agoPost 39
revmix

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In short,
the hobby sUAS registration is within the programming of a nationwide CBO and therefore required (member or not)

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03-20-2017 07:41 PM  20 months agoPost 40
EEngineer

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"the hobby sUAS registration is within the programming of a nationwide CBO and therefore required (member or not)"

Only according to you....

But Senator Inhofe....and....Congress has ruled differently.

And, they both outrank you, the AMA, and the FAA.

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