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03-06-2017 02:20 AM  28 months ago
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flyin dan

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X-Cell 60 Rebuilt

Just thought Id post pics of this, just got it done. I have been flying this for a couple of years now, rebuilt it with all new bearings, new canopy, new U-pipe, installed a new cnc fan and GV1 governor. I have the x-cell 50 decal on it, but its the 60 model. It was the last decal I could find!

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03-06-2017 10:30 AM  28 months ago
chopper37

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Came out great, wish I still had mine, they were the heli back in the day
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03-06-2017 10:53 AM  28 months ago
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Excellent work, looks fantastic.

Everyone should own a classic!
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03-06-2017 01:37 PM  28 months ago
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Looks great..Team Can't Get Right Starwood Models
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03-06-2017 01:43 PM  28 months ago
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Nice!
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03-06-2017 10:19 PM  28 months ago
flyin dan

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Thanks!, This one has most of the upgrades I could find, the mixing arm setup in front is gone now, replaced with just two servos side by side, mixing done in the transmitter.
By the way,does anyone remember what max head-speed should be for a O.S. SF blackhead with this pipe on it? It has the metal head on, but with plastic grips.
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03-06-2017 10:22 PM  28 months ago
chopper37

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1800 on the headspeed comes to mind not sure tho, the plastic grips were the dimize of mine
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03-06-2017 10:36 PM  28 months ago
kglassman

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flying dan, I have been told that I'm running 1900 HS on my excel, I have been flying two like the one you have but have the Fiberglass canopy on them. I will fly them till I run out of the bent frames! But then I will have to up grade them to the stack frame which I have also in my reserve stock. When I'm not flying at the field, I keep my birds covered in the back of my truck out of the sun and the ultra violet, which is the killer of plastic parts, FYI...Jack
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03-10-2017 12:16 AM  28 months ago
madgadget

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Not more than 1900 loaded and fwiw 1800 moves these 9lb machines with purpose.

That said 2 words describe your example.

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03-10-2017 04:45 AM  28 months ago
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flyin dan
I cannot locate my bent frame manual at the moment, but I run 1550 on my bent frame, and the manual for my Pro IIK, states 1700+ is ok. I run 1650 on the ProII K, and that works very well, and I run Cool power 30% on both.
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03-10-2017 09:23 AM  28 months ago
PaulBowen

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I'm not really sure why yo would run a machine like that at over 1700rpm. I believe 1700 would be the best combination of power vs sound vs wear and tear. For what it's worth Curtis Younglblood said in his book that 1700 is the sweet spot for all of his flying. I run my Freya at 1450 and 1550 and my D3v2 at 1550 and 1650.

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03-10-2017 03:02 PM  28 months ago
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That's a beautiful model. At some point you may find yourself asking what you want to do with it. I mean- if you just want to just fly, there are better helicopters. If you want to relive the old days, don't upgrade it.

I restored my old X-Cell and found myself down-grading many parts to what the heli originally had on it. For instance, while I have 2 or three plastic servo trays around here, I found myself putting the plywood tray back on. I have unused modern Futaba BLS servos around here but I put the old 5101s back in just to remember what that was like. Same for many other parts.

Now that the helicopter is back in it original form, I don't fly it much and when I do, I just cruse around for nostalgia's sake.

"Well, nothing bad can happen now."
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03-10-2017 03:09 PM  28 months ago
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9201's That't not the original start cone !
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03-10-2017 03:36 PM  28 months ago
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That't not the original start cone!
That funny!

Damn-it. I had to go out in the shop and find the thing! I suppose you want me to put it on too?.?. The reality is that I would put it on and use it if it wouldn't require a dedicated starter with the cone starter wand attached. Every other helicopter in my fleet uses the now standard 6mm hex.

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03-10-2017 03:43 PM  28 months ago
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Those things jumped off and trashed the canopy. I replaced mine with one of those flex shaft things.
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03-10-2017 03:59 PM  28 months ago
wjvail

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Those things jumped off and trashed the canopy.
Why yes they did!. It is/was also a big ol' thing mounted to the tip of a long fragile shaft, hard mounted to the clutch, constantly spinning at engine RPM, and was supported by a single small bearing. It worked but it took skill and effort.
I replaced mine with one of those flex shaft things.
I used the cone starter for a number of years but eventually replaced it with a wand that eliminated the cone and had a one-way bearing in it that directly engaged the start shaft. It too wasn't without it's "challenges".
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03-10-2017 04:08 PM  28 months ago
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Uh yeah, what are all of those scuff marks from ?

I had a very expensive Pag something brand flex shaft. Then they went out of business and I threw away all of the shaft adapters!
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03-10-2017 09:50 PM  28 months ago
JuanRodriguez

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Pegae......had them on all of my nitro helis back in the day .......very robust unlike the Miniature Aircraft version......Been there, done that and old enough to know better.....
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03-10-2017 10:31 PM  28 months ago
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Ha Ha! looks like I started something! Just asking about the max head-speed to ask really. Ive been flying this with curves, and its been around 1700 or so with the Bantom tach, and running somewhat on the rich side. I have one more of these I quit flying and now its a hanger queen, its just got the carbon tail shaft upgrade.
This heli I built to get more practice for flying my Fury Extreme, but I seem to fly this more! And yes I have one of those cone starter shafts...... It hasn't been used in years, I wrecked a canopy with one of those also!
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03-10-2017 10:36 PM  28 months ago
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The old rule was that at max pitch in FFF, the rotor rpm should not drop. 1700~1800 was all a 60 would do - maybe 11 degrees.
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