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02-27-2017 12:50 PM  29 months ago
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slickporsche

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Is JR dead?
I was reading some old news, that claims JR is dead, capute. That surely is not true I hope. IS it?
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02-27-2017 01:16 PM  29 months ago
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Depends on who you listen to. Fact is no they are not. They have been restructuring and it has taken a bit longer than they thought. I myself thought they were a little ambitious in their time frame. Parts have started up again. JR Americas has gotton in the some shipments of the nxb8921 brushless servos. Sold out quick tho a lot of ppl waiting on them. It is a little slow going on parts right now but it is picking up production wise. They are working on receiver production now and it looks like that should be up and running by the end of march or soTeam Jr
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02-27-2017 01:17 PM  29 months ago
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No...,
Nothing more then RUMOR!!
Restructuring, with some delays in manufacturing, but NOT gone...

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02-27-2017 02:40 PM  29 months ago
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Not gone. Just downsizing and restructuring
That's what their website says. Also, 'no new radios'. As to what that means is not clearly stated. Could mean no new development or no new production. From what I know, also no new heli design developments and no more competition support. World Champion Hiroki Itou has moved out. It is a similar situation as Hirobo.
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02-27-2017 03:06 PM  29 months ago
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If you read it no new development for now. Not forever. Ito yes is flying goblin but I am not so sure he isn't still flying the JR radio and servos. Helis are going to be done. They are suplplying parts for a while but no new helis.Team Jr
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02-27-2017 04:29 PM  29 months ago
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They will be if they dont start paying attention to the direction the hobby is going. I was a diehard JR user, but they have had nothing in recent years that can compete with what others are doing.
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02-27-2017 05:52 PM  29 months ago
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Well give some ideas thenTeam Jr
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02-27-2017 05:59 PM  29 months ago
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That's not my job. I enjoy the hobby as a total retail customer and buy the stuff that provides me the greatest happiness. JR does none of that and it gives me no pleasure saying it. I see in yor tag line "team jr". That's your job to pay attention to the hobby and stay on the cutting edge. Tell me one thing JR is doing right? One cutting edge feature of the JR line ?
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02-27-2017 07:22 PM  29 months ago
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Well we have everything Futaba has so not sure what they got that we don't.

Jeti telemetry is real good and nobody is as good as they are at that but all the other fancy junk they have is meaningless.

I suppose you will say integration like vbar. Well we have that if you use our gyro just like them. Vcontrol is useless without their system. I fly planes too and don't want a gyro in it

Spektrum? There is a company that has just renamed their radios colored them different and called it new. Telemetry can only be used with a module in the Heli or plane. They have nothing more than anyone else.

JR servos? none have the capabilities ours do. I will gaurantee you that you can't find that. And I am not talking the specs of torque and speed. Anyone can put down what ever on that. I am talking the programming. We are way ahead on that. Also a 3 year warrenty. Longer than anyone's.

JR xbus system kicks everyone's but. Really don't mean that much with helis tho. More with planes but in case ppl haven't noticed they buy them too

I guess yes I am failing to see your point. Most companies don't have a whole lot more. Some do maybe if you want accelerometers in your radio.

Problem with this hobby is there are a lot of gimmicks. Some ppl do like them. I happen to want something to fly my planes and helis without failures and with complete confidence in the equipment. I get that with this setup. I will also say this I did when I flew Futaba also. Didn't with spektrum. Been there done that and not again. Also witnessed fly offs with graupner and jeti. Don't want that either. That is what this has given me for the last 4 years and until it don't then I will stick with it

There are some examples for you can things be improved? Sure but that goes with them all not just JR. If there wasn't improvement we all wouldn't be where we are today with any of our radio systems
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02-27-2017 08:36 PM  29 months ago
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I will also add a couple of things to it.

Futaba, jeti, spektrum, I do know this for sure has 4096 stick resolution. Frisky, Graupner, and vcontrol I think do also but not sure. And I am including all the top of the line radios in this. JR has a radio with 65000 resolution. 15 times greater than anyone else. That is leading and yes you notice it too

Gimbals nobody has gimbales that are as smooth and precise as JR. That is the first thing ppl say when they fly my radio is oh my god those are smooth. Maybe you and others don't want that kind of stuff but I use the gimbals more than anything else on my radio

Fit and finish is as good as anyone's.

Just some more things
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02-28-2017 01:49 AM  29 months ago
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"That's your job to pay attention to the hobby and stay on the cutting edge."

I didn't realize LaDon was in the hierarchy of JR engineering dept.

And was on their board of directors.....
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02-28-2017 02:28 PM  29 months ago
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Is JR dead?
Well, that is better news than I read elsewhere. I do not see that Jeti is anything special, and just another fad, and very expensive. I have been flying JR, and Futaba, and I forgot Airtronics/Sanwa. I see nothing but good for any of those brands, except Airtronics, which is slow on development.

I was actually in the market for another JR, but then read they are done, so I put myself on hold for now.

Thanks for all the info.
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02-28-2017 02:52 PM  29 months ago
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Is JR dead?
From the small amount of research I have done, it appears the XG14 14ch DMSS System is the way to go, even though I have no current need for X-buss.

However, if I move back to the states as planned, then I would be flying more fixed wing, and would use the X-buss system. Of course the move would depend if Trump (CAN) do everything promised.
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02-28-2017 02:55 PM  29 months ago
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Well you would use xbus on the helis for sure. It makes it to where there is just one wire going to the receiver. That and it is more robust than the sat wires. 14 is an nice radioTeam Jr
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02-28-2017 10:25 PM  29 months ago
Tool Man Vegas

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They do have very nice gimbals.
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02-28-2017 10:41 PM  29 months ago
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Drastic Measures
I believe all the manufacturers mentioned especially JR are at the cutting edge already when it comes to technology and quality. That they have to resort to drastic measures such as downsizing, re tooling, re organization and even relocation is a sad realization of the changes in demand for their products. Hobbyists aren't buying as much as the companies are projecting. Sales are not enough to justify development and increased production. It's a very saddening thought. In a way it is our fault too. Maybe there aren't enough buyers to sustain the manufacturers' existence.
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02-28-2017 10:44 PM  29 months ago
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You have a point there. A lot of companies geared up because of the big boom especially in the helis. Now it has went back to what is prolly considered normal. Now they have to change their ways. That is happening across the boardTeam Jr
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02-28-2017 11:17 PM  29 months ago
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"That and it is more robust than the sat wires."

That's a good thing.

In addition to those wires, the connectors are of "circuit-board" interconnect quality...not made for high-vibe environments...imo.
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02-28-2017 11:30 PM  29 months ago
iyoy

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Personal Choices
In my case, when my dad introduced me to r/c in 1973, we had a Futaba radio, not for anything else but because, where we lived, it was the only kind available then for a reasonable price. I grew up on the brand and in our country Futaba had the best dealer. This never stopped me from becoming envious of other brands after trying out what our friends had. First there was Pro Line with the open gimbals but mostly it was JRPROPO. A fantastic brand. In the end I stuck with Futaba, even earning a factory sponsorship at some point. Nowadays, I pay for my gear but I still use Futaba because I am familiar with the brand and for mostly the same reasons as before but it still hasn't prevented me from maintaining my interest in JR. I just hope our hobby and the manufacturers survives whatever challenges come its way.
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03-01-2017 12:16 AM  29 months ago
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Iyoy you won't hear me knock Futaba. They make excellent equipment. Ever brand has stuff they do better than others. Nobody does it all the best. But for me JR is on top and futaba is right thereTeam Jr
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