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09-06-2016 11:16 AM  34 months ago
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Slowpoke

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Circuit Challenged
I fly mostly oval circuits, similar to tracing a nascar track. I find clockwise circuits easy, but counter-clockwise much more difficult.

Could this be a matter of a right or left handed person naturally have a preference to a certain direction? (I am left handed)

Or could the main rotor and tail rotor torque make the heli more difficult to control in a certain direction?

I'd like to know if most flyers find a certain direction easier or harder.

Slowpoke
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09-06-2016 12:55 PM  34 months ago
doorman

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Not Harder!!
Lefts and rights are the same... it is more the way you have learned to fly.. just depends on what you did the most of.. left or right..
I usually don't mention this to new fliers and hust have them move into doing figure 8's... that way each direction gets equal time, andcthe "harder" turn doesn't come up,.,
Have fun and it is just practice and getting used to the little different orientation...
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09-07-2016 03:45 AM  34 months ago
Slowpoke

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ok, I understand that. I first started on planks, and the flying field where I learned to fly had very strict rules about how and where you could fly. One direction only, and you had to stay withing certain boundaries.

I attempt figure 8s occasionally, and I'm sure anyone watching is greatly amused.

I'll keep practicing!

Slowpoke
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09-08-2016 01:10 PM  34 months ago
doorman

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Have Fun...

It will take a bit, but you'll make it!!
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09-08-2016 01:24 PM  34 months ago
Tyler

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Helis fly differently through right and left hand turns, as they tend to lose altitude in one direction and gain altitude in the other. FBL controllers make this less obvious than before, but these dynamics are still present.

You are forced to fly turns differently. Some pilots compensate without even realizing it.
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09-18-2016 05:06 PM  34 months ago
allupndown

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It is interesting to think about. So many factors in the equation and I've always wondered the same as Slowpoke but the case is opposite. I'm right handed and my left turns are much prettier than my right turns lol. Even with planks so in my case I think it's mostly comfort zone.lots of assembly required
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09-18-2016 06:55 PM  34 months ago
Tyler

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Left turns are easier because the rotor disk causes the heli to lose altitude, thus maintaining speed and momentum. The heli grooves well.

Right turns cause the heli to nose up and gain altitude. It feels unnatural to push the nose down so we must overcome our innate habit to pull up. The heli loses momentum and tends to lose air speed and we sometimes find ourselves in a hover positioned in an uncomfortable orientation.

Those unexpected hovers can cause overload and panic.
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09-18-2016 09:09 PM  34 months ago
Slowpoke

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yes, definately understand the panic.

Been flying a lot this week, and making some progress....
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09-18-2016 11:40 PM  34 months ago
allupndown

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I was just messing around on RF doing race track and figure 8s. Everything Tyler described was the case. Never really put thought into it while flying a real model but nice to know it's not all me lollots of assembly required
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09-20-2016 04:56 PM  34 months ago
Heli_Splatter

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I think that difficulty flying one direction or another is a figment of ones mind. They are both equally difficult(simple). It is only what you perceive. It only means that you have practiced one direction more than another and tells you where you need to work.

I don't know how one can say that they need more collective(or less) in one or the other circle direction. I am flying the collective all the time in both circles. I cannot just leave the collective set and fly circles in either direction. I am flying wind, etc.

Another Opinion For Consideration.
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09-20-2016 05:42 PM  34 months ago
Slowpoke

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we've had great flying weather in Ohio this week, so I've gotten a lot of flying in. The left hand circles are getting easier, but not flying as fast yet as when I do right hand. I've gotten in a few near respectable figure eights, but have a ways to go yet.
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09-20-2016 08:01 PM  34 months ago
doorman

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On Your Way!!
Just takes practice... I could not agree more with HeliSplatter!!

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10-14-2016 03:37 PM  33 months ago
Slowpoke

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Finally got in some half way decent figure eights today.

I think the issue was trying to fly too slow and not keeping up the momentum. Left hand turns are no longer panic inducing, so that helps also.
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10-14-2016 05:23 PM  33 months ago
CoachE

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very cool!!!! you should come down to the dayton fun fly next weekBD Team Pilot / Get !T - Got !T - Perfect !T
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10-14-2016 09:34 PM  33 months ago
doorman

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No More Panic!!!
Slowpoke,
Glad to hear your getting more comfortable... CONGRATS!!!!

You keep practicing and soon you will not even think about it...

Stan
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10-16-2016 05:09 PM  33 months ago
Heli Fanatix

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SlowPoke ... are you a
- thumber
- pincher
- hybrid
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10-16-2016 07:42 PM  33 months ago
Slowpoke

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I have my thumb squarely on top the stick, and my index finger at 12 o'clock on the stick
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10-16-2016 07:46 PM  33 months ago
flycatch

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There is no easy solution to the problem of flying circuits both counter and counter clockwise. I used a method that was taught by Ray Hostetler many years ago. The method is simple but does appear to be dangerous. What it involves is flying around yourself in a circle first clockwise and than counter clockwise. The circle starts about a twenty-five feet separation from you and the helicopter. As you gain confidence this diameter increases to one hundred feet. The height above the ground starts about six feet and also get progressively higher as the diameter increases.
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10-16-2016 08:33 PM  33 months ago
Heli Fanatix

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SlowPoke

If I'm not mistaken, looks like you are a Hybrid (combination thumber & pinching)

There are a lot of variables
- practicing to get use to it (training eye to hand coordination, brain recongnizes it)
- setup
- physics (what Tyler mentioned)

And here is a thought to consider. Depending on your TX and how you hold it
- moving sticks apart is easier
- pushing sticks towards center is not as easy
- thumb placement may give different amount of travel per directions

Depending how long your fingers are and thumb placement, it may pose more challenging for one direction than the other.

BTW
It's always important to keep the heli infront of you, perferreable 30' or further at all times.
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10-20-2016 03:03 PM  33 months ago
CoachE

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Slow poke

How has your flights been coming along?
BD Team Pilot / Get !T - Got !T - Perfect !T
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