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05-24-2016 12:33 AM  3 years ago
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planekrazy

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Need a good charger
Ok i know that this is an old question and one that has been beat up many times
I am looking to replace my small hitec charger so i can charge 6s batteries faster then one hour plus, i would like to be able to bring it to the field and be able to charge 4 to 6 batteries at the most, i know that i would need 24 volt for the power and that is ok i can do that. have a/c for home charging would be nice but not a must have

I just do not know what to buy, I do not like something that is complicated and that i have to update all the time or touch my nose and left ear to make it work

I do not want to be stupid with money but i do want a good reliable setup

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05-24-2016 01:43 AM  3 years ago
Blackhawk6

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I would say the either the Icharger 308 Duo would be good. They're super easy to use, dual channels and 30amp to charge at high rates for you parallel charging. Priced in the $250 range and you'll never need to replace it.

On another note, the PL8 from Revolectric is a great charger as well but only single channel. I like the double channels so I can get flight packs, radios and rx packs going all at the same time... Good luck!
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05-24-2016 02:29 AM  3 years ago
Dawiev

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Hi, this link might help to take some of the guess work out of it :
http://www.soko-heli-tools.com/en/c...calculator.html

I'm very happy with the PL6 and parallel charge 4 x 5000maH, 6S with ease. I bought this before they announced their GT500 model. From the specs, it looks very good, at the price.

I do not have any experience with the dual-output chargers and sometimes, it would be nice to charge different types of batts at the same time indeed. Please be sure to consider the values for a single charge channel though, and not for both.

For EC5 & 6S, I use this :
http://www.progressiverc.com/safe-p...jst-xh-ec5.html
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05-24-2016 02:58 AM  3 years ago
Ace Dude

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Just use the PowerLab calculators:

http://revolectrix.com/
  
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05-24-2016 03:40 AM  3 years ago
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We had 2 Icharger 4010 duos. We have now gone to the revolectrix pl8 duo. It is way easier to operate and understand. On top of that if down the road you decide to get the bump controller you would not believe how easy that is. I have no desire to do anything else. It is by far the best setup I have had and worth every penny. Once the logging and graphing is out it will be even betterTeam Jr
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05-24-2016 07:32 PM  3 years ago
Rojoalfa

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Nice try...

The first question is...

How big your batteries Are... In terms of MAH?

Your hitec gadget run very nice and also protect your lipos from you...

If you are planning to charge at 2C or more... Prepare to be punished for being responsible...

State of the art charger to handle no more than 80 watts is not a Good choice.

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05-24-2016 11:06 PM  3 years ago
planekrazy

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I am charging 6s 5000 mah batteries

I thin that i have decided on purchasing the power lab 6 i think that it will meet my needs

I am debating on 24 volt or 12v I only want two packs of two for my goblin and i do not want to wait over an hour to charge them

thank you for all the info

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05-25-2016 12:12 AM  3 years ago
LaDon

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Just do the 24 volt. You can get 2 dps1200 server power supplies off eBay cheap enough and there is a guy that does a nice article on how to make them work and that is easy. Here are some power supplies

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-2-Prol...1119?nav=SEARCH

Here is a link to convert them
http://www.rchelination.com/setting...b-power-supply/
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05-25-2016 12:20 AM  3 years ago
Rojoalfa

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That power lab 6 is a 1000 watts charger.

1000/24 means 41 amps...
1000/12 means 82 amps...

You will need a power source of 24 volts with 23 amps, half the power requeriment.

So, your 5000 mah could be charged with 2C or 10 amps with no harm in 15 min...

Comparing with your hitec gadget , you gain 15 min in time...
For 180 bucks and a 100 bucks more for a power source , you better keep your hitec.

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05-25-2016 02:52 AM  3 years ago
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I am charging 6s 5000 mah batteries

I thin that i have decided on purchasing the power lab 6 i think that it will meet my needs

I am debating on 24 volt or 12v I only want two packs of two for my goblin and i do not want to wait over an hour to charge them

thank you for all the info
Good choice. I'd go 24v (minimum) myself.

Also, the new GT 1200 was just announced if you have any interest in the GT Series.

http://www.revolectrix.com/GT1200_features_tab.htm
  
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05-25-2016 11:53 AM  3 years ago
planekrazy

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thank you all for the information that you have provided
hitch charger is way too low in power to use two 6s 5000 packs that 1-1.5 hours to charge i need that to be less then 30 mins

the pl6 will do all i want now that i got into electric heli i am into the nitro heli but bought a KSE goblin 700

I will keep my small charger to use on the smaller batteries

I my just go 12 volts and see how long it takes to charge if too slow then i will go 24v

ken
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05-25-2016 12:35 PM  3 years ago
Rojoalfa

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I my just go 12 volts and see how long it takes to charge if too slow then i will go 24
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BTW, power lab 6 with 12 volts power source is a Good and expensive piece of junk... It is a Good chance your power source came out with fire...

24 volts means less harm to your charger - power source.
It means more power available in terms of voltage...so, internal electronics will last forever...

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05-25-2016 01:07 PM  3 years ago
LaDon

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Not sure I totally agree with that but one thing he is right on is 12v won't give you much more over what you have. I understand that a lot of ppl don't understand electronics very well me being one of them. I do know at least enough to get by. Here is what you do. Put one 6s battery in you goblin 700 and go fly it. Your esc will overheat an the Heli will fly like crap because it has no power. Might get off the ground and hover but won't do anymore. That is what 12v will do charging your batteries. Yep it will charge them. Will take a while and be hard on things.

Also if you buy a power supply and it is 12v you have to make sure it is stackable. A lot of power supplies won't let you put them in series. If that is what you get and then decide you have to go 24v then it will be another waste of money. Those that are in the links I posted will allow that with the modifications done in the article I posted. They are cheap. If saving $30 to charge with is that big of deal then you should listen to the one guy that posted above here and just stick with the hitec charger and use it because you are gonna spend money to gain not enough to do anything. It would be like filling a swimming pool with a garden hose. Use one takes x amount of time. Put another on the same faucet and yeah might gain a little but not much. Use two on separete faucets and the pool fills twice as fast. Go 24v and save the headaches
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05-25-2016 01:47 PM  3 years ago
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PowerLabs work just fine on 12v. However, max power output is dependent on input voltage so always use the PowerLab calculators to determine if the input voltage meets your charger power output requirements.

I always recommend using voltage specific power supplies rather than power supplies in series.

http://www.revolectrix.com/Calculators_main.htm
  
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05-25-2016 01:57 PM  3 years ago
LaDon

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You are right acedude it is better to use those in my opinion also but they cost about $250 or more for a good one up to $500. If the server ones either didn't work or were going to damage anything then I don't think bump charger.com would be using them or recommending them in their cases so I think he would be just fine. I have a chargery 1200 in mine that is 24 volt but it is obviously dirty power as my bump is being disrupted by it. Point is not all that are manufactured at 24v are clean and good also. Obviously the better ones cost more moneyTeam Jr
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05-25-2016 02:15 PM  3 years ago
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Perhaps a little more expensive, but industrial grade units are available as used/surplus just as server supplies are. The 12v surplus server supplies were never designed to be used in series. If one fails while in series operation it could damage the charger as well.  
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05-25-2016 03:09 PM  3 years ago
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Well here can we get them? We need a link. I am not saying there isn't better out there. What I am saying is there is options. Now I have not seen a server one fail and ruin a charger also but that could happen I imagine. But that being said so could any other power supplies.

Look the guy was asking about what to do about taking so long charging. Everyone here has given good answers. Let's not lose sight of the fact we are trying to help this guy. I think we all know that using 12 volts is not gonna inprove his charge time by much over what he has. I think we all can agree on that. So now I think we all also agree 24v at the least will accomplish what he wants. How he does it is up to him I just threw out the option because like most ppl in this hobby they want one of the best helis but don't want to spend much over that to be able to fly it. So I gave him a cheaper option. There are lots off ppl out there using just what I suggested with great success. Is it the best? No not by far. But it is a decent one that don't break the bank. It is his perrogotive to spend more. My point was that if you buy power supplies and you are going to go 12v with the option of going to 24 by doing it in a series you have to make sure they are capable. A lot of them are not. Like mine if I want 48v I cannot get another and make it work. It won't.

I don't know how to explain this in a way that he will understand but it is like if you own a Volkswagon and you don't like the performance of it because it won't accelerate fast enough and you go buy a Cadillac but take the Volkswagon motor and put in it the performance s not gonna be that much different. Sure it will be nice and it will get the job done but at a bigger cost that won't accomplish much.

Point is don't skimp on the power supplies. I don't care which ones you buy as I have no vested interest or money in any of the companies. All I did was give you an option. If someone has a better option then post it to where he can get it. That is all he needs
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05-25-2016 03:46 PM  3 years ago
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eBay, the same place all the surplus server supplies are coming from.

I recommended a 24V (min) power supply in my earlier post.

Note, the PowerLab 6 is capable of > 408W out with a 12V input. Certainly faster than what he has now and if his goal is to charge two 6s 5000mAh @ 2C a 12V power supply would achieve > 81% of his goal.

While 24v is good, a slightly higher input voltage is better to eliminate the buck/boost transitions. One of the the other benefits to the industrial grade supplies is the easily adjustable voltage range.
  
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05-28-2016 06:30 PM  3 years ago
DennisH

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6s + Battery Charger Wanted
Duplicate, Sorry

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06-04-2016 12:03 AM  3 years ago
planekrazy

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charging batteries is a bigger pain then what i had wanted, i should have stayed with nitro

After my charger 3010 died i sent it back and purchased a PL6 so it comes in only to find out the my parole charging board will not fit some weird connection on the PL6 ok i will look for option

I called commonsense rc where my boards come from and they say the have no cable that will adapt

a search gets me to buddy rc it looks like he might have on, so i tried to call to confirm that it is what i need and goes to voicemail and mail box is full.

helidirect did not offer any combo deal with what i need they did tell me i may need there 65 dollar board and 15 dollar cable and i took the chance.

Why does this have to be so hard if i find no solution to this mess soon everything i purchased to charge 4 6s batteries is being returned

ranting sorry
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